Human life does NOT begin at conception.
Aug 17, 2015 07:47:17 #
Theo
Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
Human life was already in the process when conception took place.
Why?
Because the life is in the blood.
The lifeblood of the Mother attaches to the fetus through the umbilical which nourishes and builds the fetus through a series of progressions we know as "growth process."
But in no part of the process, is life not present. It was present prior to the development of the umbilical, and it was present prior to the joining of the egg and sperm, both of which carried life to the juncture.
LIFE DOES NOT "BEGIN" at any part of the process of passing it on. It was already "alive" in the parent, and has been alive since the garden of Eden.
All of this baloney about "Life begins at conception" is just that, BALONEY. The parents did not join dead egg with dead sperm. Both carried life and both were alive prior to joining.
It is the BLOOD that contains life in every step of the process. To deny this only demonstrates a paucity of scientific knowledge about a very old process.
Scientists discuss and debate what Theologians have always known, who know the significance of "For the life of the flesh is in the blood:"[Lev 17:11]
Why?
Because the life is in the blood.
The lifeblood of the Mother attaches to the fetus through the umbilical which nourishes and builds the fetus through a series of progressions we know as "growth process."
But in no part of the process, is life not present. It was present prior to the development of the umbilical, and it was present prior to the joining of the egg and sperm, both of which carried life to the juncture.
LIFE DOES NOT "BEGIN" at any part of the process of passing it on. It was already "alive" in the parent, and has been alive since the garden of Eden.
All of this baloney about "Life begins at conception" is just that, BALONEY. The parents did not join dead egg with dead sperm. Both carried life and both were alive prior to joining.
It is the BLOOD that contains life in every step of the process. To deny this only demonstrates a paucity of scientific knowledge about a very old process.
Scientists discuss and debate what Theologians have always known, who know the significance of "For the life of the flesh is in the blood:"[Lev 17:11]
Aug 17, 2015 08:09:18 #
Theo wrote:
Human life was already in the process when concept... (show quote)
Should I be afraid of being arrested for selling my life blood for a movie pass?
Aug 17, 2015 08:39:13 #
Aug 17, 2015 08:39:54 #
sabbath
Loc: meade co. ky.
Theo wrote:
Human life was already in the process when concept... (show quote)
Aug 17, 2015 09:37:17 #
Philosophically correct, but biologic life is in the egg and sperm cells, no "blood" involved, unless we speak metaphorically. If we want to make it a crime to interrupt this progression of life, why not criminalize abstinence. It's as a******l as a******n.
Aug 17, 2015 10:29:53 #
Theo
Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
BigJim wrote:
Philosophically correct, but biologic life is in the egg and sperm cells, no "blood" involved, unless we speak metaphorically.
You need to do just a tad more research. Biologic life is in the egg and sperm cells because they were nourished by blood.
Blood carries nutrients to all parts of the human body, and maintains life therein.
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If we want to make it a crime to interrupt this progression of life, why not criminalize abstinence. It's as a******l as a******n.
1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
Who said anything about "making it a crime?" Murder is already a crime.
Aug 17, 2015 12:54:22 #
Unclet
Loc: Amarillo, Tx
Theo wrote:
Human life was already in the process when concept... (show quote)
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Aug 17, 2015 13:40:50 #
A very interesting dance around the topic of reproductive rights and a******n, without ever having had to mention either!
Just for the record, I'm wondering if any of the posters here are women, and of those, who has had to bear a child because of rape.
Just for the record, I'm wondering if any of the posters here are women, and of those, who has had to bear a child because of rape.
Aug 17, 2015 13:50:59 #
In some ways we agree. I only disagree with saying that blood is a key part of inheritance. Blood is just a part of the whole human body which carries the parents DNA until ready to reproduce. I am strongly for a******n; I do not believe in anyone having unwanted children. My point is that if we call life something sacred that must be preserved no matter what, we should condemn abstinence as much as a******n, which is not socially tenable for the world in the long run. Therefore, we need to find a solution that has minimal social impact. Extremely few a******ns have a negative impact on any current member of society, so defining birth as the point of giving legal protection to life is reasonable.
Aug 17, 2015 15:08:16 #
Theo
Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
PaulPisces wrote:
A very interesting dance around the topic of reproductive rights and a******n, without ever having had to mention either!
Just for the record, I'm wondering if any of the posters here are women, and of those, who has had to bear a child because of rape.
Just for the record, I'm wondering if any of the posters here are women, and of those, who has had to bear a child because of rape.
Men will find excuses to break every law God ever made. Some even sound noble.
Aug 17, 2015 15:11:35 #
Aug 17, 2015 15:19:46 #
Theo
Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
BigJim wrote:
Extremely few a******ns have a negative impact on any current member of society...,
Do You mean "except for the unborn?"
Why are we looking for more immigrant's to do the work we do not have enough citizens to do? BECAUSE WE ABORTED THEM.
Why is there a shortage of doctors, with fewer every year?
Because WE ABORTED THEM.
Why are the volunteers for military service becoming fewer every year?
Because WE ABORTED THEM.
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...so defining birth as the point of giving legal protection to life is reasonable.
So it isn't murder of two when someone k**ls a pregnant woman? Tell that to all the prisoners sitting in prison who are charged with two murders because they k**led a mother and her fetus.
"Protection" is the single most important task for a man who marries and promises protection in the marriage vows.
He is to sustain, protect, love and nourish, his wife, and their progeny.
THAT IS THE BASIS FOR A CIVILIZED SOCIETY.
Aug 17, 2015 15:24:29 #
Theo
Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
BigJim wrote:
No problem if you don't believe in god, let alone the bible.
Ignorance is a problem for any society, but it can be overcome by education. Stupidity is an even worse problem, because it stays with the stupoid.
Stupoid: Masquerades as Human but behaves like drone, having no moral or intellectual responsibility other than venting desires regardless of the damage to others.
Aug 17, 2015 16:09:54 #
Theo wrote:
Men will find excuses to break every law God ever made. Some even sound noble.
I can't argue with men finding excuses for lots of things, though the question of whether or not God actually made any of the laws in question remains under scrutiny.
And speaking of excuses, why did you not simply answer my question?
Aug 17, 2015 16:39:39 #
This opinion piece calls out a very interesting angle about how conservatives pursue restrictions on a******ns vs. restrictions on IVF embryos.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fertility-clinics-destroy-embryos-all-the-time-why-arent-conservatives-after-them/2015/08/13/be06e852-4128-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fertility-clinics-destroy-embryos-all-the-time-why-arent-conservatives-after-them/2015/08/13/be06e852-4128-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html
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