Glaucon

Dr. Laura Schlesinger (a popular conservative radio talk show host in the USA) said that homosexuality is an a*********n according to the Bible Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura.

Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an a*********n… end of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess s***es, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into s***ery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual unseemliness – Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev. 1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to k**l him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an a*********n – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser a*********n than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of a*********n?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev. 24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
James M. Kauffman, Ed. D.
Professor Emeritus Dept. of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education
University of Virginia
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an a*********n… end of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess s***es, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into s***ery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual unseemliness – Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev. 1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to k**l him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an a*********n – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser a*********n than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of a*********n?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev. 24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
James M. Kauffman, Ed. D.
Professor Emeritus Dept. of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education
University of Virginia

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Though this is an old and funny one, it sure does a good job of pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right when they try to use the Bible as a cudgel.

Glaucon

It is an oldie but goodie. I thought it was worth reposting, because I have yet to meet Christian who has actually read the entire Bible, although I assume some have. This gives them a glimpse of their chosen bible and what some believe to be the basis of their morality. So much for Christian morals.

We have had several examples of some claiming the evil of some "l*****t" books such as Zinn's American history and Alinsky's Rules for Radicals without reading them. I thought this amusing but accurate piece might shake up some of those who have very strong emotions about books and materials they haven't read

I am reminded that fundamentalist Christians claim to believe that the Bible is absolutely true, accurate and provides rules to live by.

mtman2

The fullfilled covenant is in the The Lamb of God, whom is the Alpha+Omega, the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings= Christ Jesus; HE- advances the Old Testament Law from only Justice to Mercy when the two "kissed" on the cross as the propitiation for sin as Jesus willingly laid down His life for any who would look upon the the fulfilled lifted serpent as on the staff of Moses and knew their Redeemer lives as Job knew He would come as promised[Job 19:25-28= 4,000-yrs ago].

Dr Laura, is Jewish and does not stand by the fulfillment of the scriptures, nor embraces it's fulfillment in Christ and so, is incapable of giving advise to a Christian nation regarding deeper understanding in any spiritual matters = John 3:14 ~!

Glaucon

I don't think this piece was meant to be about Dr. Laura. It merely cited what the King James version of the Christian Bible says. Do you see some conflict between your quote and the quotes in the letter?

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

The kind of mythological gobbledygook mtman2 is using has been part of the human condition in some form ever since we realized we have the gift of imagination. And if it helps anyone grapple with the unknowable mysteries of life then I say, go for it!

Just don't use it as a justification to tell anyone they are somehow lesser because they do not believe the same as you.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

It's as though people believe that the Holy Spirit gives them personal and exclusive knowledge - about what to enforce and what can be ignored - in the Old Testament. Even though God warns humans, through Johns Revelations, that anyone who adds or deletes ANYTHING from the scriptures, is DAMNED - many insist on doing it anyway.

They make themselves feel better about it, by insisting that they "prayed and God answered". It has been my experience, that when people pray, they tend to TELL God what they want, HOW they want Him to accomplish these things and WHEN, as well as "if you don't want me to do this, give me a sign". God is quite accommodating where this is concerned - as He ignores prayers that are not tendered properly. Fortunately, instructions for HOW to pray are provided, as well as a guide for WHAT to pray for.

Most ignore all of that too, being convinced that God has selected THEM to interpret his word for the ignorant - and don't need the Holy Spirit's advice or help.

Glaucon

RESPONSE:

I Think the issue you distracted and deflected from are the quotes from the Bible that are clearly in conflict with what most Christians claim to believe. Do you claim these are misquotes, are not actually in the Bible, or the actual context of these quotes causes their meanings to be other than the meaning that seems apparent?

It would seem that you are not a very deep or strong believer if you need to avoid these questions. Is it fair for me to assume that?

Kevyn

Most right wing nuts who claim to be Christians have difficulty reading beyond a second grade level

Glaucon

RESPONSE: Very well reasoned and stated. Thanks.

mtman2

Well my foolish friend- Western civilization is result of both Testaments. And America is a direct result of the Reformation that thankless small-minded low-info's such as yourself take for granted.
The "unknowable mysteries of life"-can and have been known, either wake up or start your own world somewhere else ~!

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Howdy Glocko Rock here, nice to beat ya!

Just wanted to tell ya on that whole Bible reading thing... I'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm your man!

First allow me to state, your post is pure crap! I mean it only illuminates utter ignorance of God's word and only a feckin' godless liberal would think this was a smack down of anything Christian, right or any flavor in between.

The analogy that comes to my mind is like trying to say bad journalism today is caused by man's use of parchment in 5 B.C.. It just doesn't make any sense.

When bobbleheaded blowhearts like you try and show the Old Testament law for Jews as some kind of proof God's word is outdated and invalid in 2015 and, the only people that could believe such nonsense still think man has never been to the moon, well your ignorance is really showing beneath your toga.

Try not to trip over it!

Oooooooooooooooooops too late!

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FYI: The piece of crap you posted is amusing, accurate... not so much!

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Glaucon

You have gone directly to insults and have studiously avoided dealing with the quotes from your bible cited In the letter to Doctor Laura. Do those quotes represent the morals and the unknown mysteries you suggest? First of all, do you know these passages are from your bible? Do you condone or agree with them.


RESPONSE:
I can see that you are trying to distract and deflect from these quotes and that is probably because you are a fearful person and you need to think you know "the unknowable mysteries of life" ?

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." Pascal

"If a man would follow, today, the teachings of the Old Testament, he would be a criminal. If he would follow strictly the teachings of the New, he would be insane."
Ingersoll

It sound like you are finding comfort in believing what you believe and, perhaps you need that comfort more than you need to exercise thinking. Thinking is exciting and rewarding, but some people, some times, need comfort most of all. Keep your comfort as long as you need it, but keep in mind that there is a strong, rewarding way you are missing.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

As the good witch of the east said: "Begone! You have no power here!"

Using slurs to avoid addressing the post just plain ol' boring to me. I'm completely unafraid of a good argument as it helps me judge the value of my own position, but this is just silly.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

No, it only cites what the Old Testament of the King James Version says.

To date, it has been my experience that those who wish to mock Christians only cite the Old Testament and, as usual, fail to quote any New Testament verses. One needs to understand the role between the two.

Be well and blessed.