no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

http://viralcraze.net/life/10-bible-verses-that-are-always-misunderstood/2/

Worth reading and thinking about. the intentional misinterpretation of these verses are one of the most common attacks by the unbelievers. Read and remember, you will find it useful in OPP discussions.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Hahahahahaha....I'm so glad God is so fallible.....so powerless....so misinterpreted. Context, timeframes, miscommunication are all NEWSPEAK that WE have created a God.

Stop making excuses for God, let God sort it out. What difference does an unbeliever's opinion make about anything?
Are you familiar with faith. Is it really anyone's job, even purpose to interpret scripture?

Man does not have the authority to change the will of God on any subject. There are a lot of false teachings that are being passed off as the truth. We have been given severe warnings in the Bible concerning any changes we try to make to God’s word. As we have already seen in Galatians 1:6-9, if we pervert the gospel by changing it, we will be accursed.

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I will answer each in kind. #1. Belief in Christ is prelude. If we believe, which is the primer, we will be as Christ was in the world. Belief is meant to end in the "becoming." Belief is like training wheels.

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"Dysfunctionality aside, it is clear our personal definition of love can be skewed." God is love and that is my definition and nature of love, and only that. Love of self superseded by Christ's New Commandment: to love as he loved, which is without any regard to self, being wholly other-centered. The self is essentially dead.

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#3. Worldliness, we are inculcated to think in their worldly values just by the existence of money.

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#4. To think of any earthly goods as our possessions, to garner or give as we please. All good gifts come from God.

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#5. Metaphor.

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#6. "This version of the verse comes from the King James Bible, and for an important reason. The idea that God will bring an end “good” for those who love Him cannot be seen from a worldly view. His purpose for any individual believer may require enduring hardship and sacrifice, even dying for the sake of the Gospel. People cannot see any good in dying, yet if that is the path God has set for someone then the good that will be seen is twofold: 1) it will further the Gospel on the earth and, 2) the believer will realize the good, whether in this lifetime or the next."

Humans can only work for good, no matter how selfish, cruel, or perverse. Their good only encompasses their image, perceived needs, and desires. To love an enemy or be other-centered is antagonistic to human "good."

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#7. "Knowledge of the Bible is not an issue of intellectual learning. Just because someone reads the Bible and has a certain amount of knowledge does not mean they have true understanding. If that were the case, then people who have photographic memories would not have to worry about living a Christian life. There is also an added fact that is easily overlooked in the reading – they do not know the power of God. This type of knowledge is brought about experience; something that Jesus had and others would intellectually debate."

Love is the only true knowledge of God. To find this love we must become as "little children," continually open to wonder and discovery--never certain or right!

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#8. "The connection between peace and prosperity by following the teaching and proverbs does not correlate with real life. In fact, many times the opposite is true – good people die young. The point here is that to live a moral life will bring you a life of inner peace, and prosperity comes with the result of that peace, not to be measured by material wealth."

To "live a moral life" goes directly against the NT. It is not about being or doing good but all about loving by grace and spirit. Being moral misses the Mark.

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#9. "Many Christians believe that if they raise their children according to Biblical principles they will carry that forward through their entire lives. But there are a number of examples where this does not hold up. The reason is that it is not a guarantee for children throughout their lives, but only they will return to the path when they are old. The best Christians will stray from the straight and narrow, even if it is not revealed publicly. The most important thing to remember is to teach your children correctly and lead by example."

One of the most important and difficult to understand messages of Christ is that there are no--none--"Biblical Principles": there is only Christ, the Standard-bearer, in whom we are to live and move and have our being. There is no teaching of children about God or Christ; there is only love.

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#10. "This is one of the favorite verses used by most non-believers and no small number of believers to avoid criticism of their immoral lives or behaviors. But the verse that follows, “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you” clears up the misunderstanding. The point is that people should be judged, but in a manner consistent with Biblical and governmental law.

For example, the Bible says that it is wrong to murder another human being, and the only person who would say this is not true is someone who commits murder himself or herself. We always try to justify our sins, and avoiding judgment from God or man is natural. But without judgment there can be no consequence for immoral actions."

The above is so twisted and wrong it is difficult to know where to start. Judgment about morality is always wrong. Always! To think otherwise is to overlook the NT. The reason it is wrong is given as something the author claims "clears up the misunderstanding": just the opposite.

People should NEVER be judged. They should only be loved--and out of that love comes the DISCERNMENT of soul from spirit, bone from marrow. If this were not true, Jesus could be judged a sinner any number of times, such as when "working" on the Sabbath.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

According to you, then, if someone comes along and murders your entire family, except you, which he rapes, we are not allowed to punish him because only God can do so. He should be allowed to remain free able to keep doing evil things. your kind of love apparently includes loving the criminal who molests a hundred kids, then slits their throats and leaves their bodies in the desert. THAT IS NOT LOVE, it is promoting evil.

fiatlux

Yes, something like that. But I never said anything about punishment, by God or otherwise. And I do not understand how you get that somehow I advocate he should remain free. I told you my definition of love: it is the nature of God; that and only that. If you believe that God would do as you describe, I am speechless.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The above is so twisted and wrong it is difficult to know where to start. Judgment about morality is always wrong. Always! To think otherwise is to overlook the NT. The reason it is wrong is given as something the author claims "clears up the misunderstanding": just the opposite.

People should NEVER be judged. They should only be loved--and out of that love comes the DISCERNMENT of soul from spirit, bone from marrow. If this were not true, Jesus could be judged a sinner any number of times, such as when "working" on the Sabbath.


When you claim that judgement about whether something is a moral behavior is not an act anyone should do, that all we should do is love everyone what ever they are doing, that, to me, means no punishment is permitted for any acts no matter how bad. To believe that appears to indicate you prefer an amoral society, no judgement, no condemnation of acts, just love. "All we need is love" of that nature is highly destructive. Since when we have discussed love and what it means on other posts, and you have said we cannot tell someone that what they are doing is wrong, how else would i be expected to interpret it?