Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM

The Fox Top Ten Republican Candidate Debate was VERY, VERY entertaining, interesting, AND A LOT OF FLUFF AND UNSEEN STUFF. It led me to an intense investigation of a number of things not only concerning the candidates, but the way the media is shaping our political viewpoints, and, indeed, the very essence of FOX News, itself.

Actually, I have a tremendous amount of information to share, but I'll try to keep this (lengthy as it is) contained to important highlights, plus a lot of links you can check out for yourselves. I'll warn you now, though, that you need to put on your thinking caps and be ready for some objective plodding. This topic is not for those who want a "political quickie."

POINT NUMBER ONE: THE USE OF MEDIA IN CONDITIONING THE MASSES cannot be limited to the continued brainwashing of the Democrats by progressive Liberal (c*******t/socialist) propaganda. All Americans are targets in one way or another, so watch out patriots and conservatives!

I agree wholeheartedly with what David Risselada has to say in his article, "The Use of Media in Conditioning the Masses":

This article opens appropriately: "I have long believed that everything we witness in the political arena these days is nothing but the carefully contrived work of social scientists to push us towards acceptance of a global governing system. Many Americans have painfully opened their eyes to the realization that the new boss is almost always the same as the old boss, and that politicians are little more than sk**led orators that know how to play on the emotions of the e*****rate. By now, most of us are familiar with the idea that the two party system is little more than an illusion designed to keep us distracted just enough to believe that we can maybe -- just maybe -- make a difference the next time around. ..."

Later in article, Risselada states: "The global elite are probably having a hay day watching our adoration for Donald Trump grow. To give an example of just how conditioned the masses are to follow, consider the fact that Donald Trump all but admitted that he donated money to Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi, while proudly proclaiming he did so to get them to do what he wants them to do. This represents everything that is wrong with American politics today, and yet, because he displays just the right amount of patriotism, he is leading in the polls by a substantial lead. I'll admit, it is refreshing to see someone call out the left on their hypocrisy, but in the end, is there a difference between "let's make America great again" and "hope and change?" Not likely. It is just another carefully planned campaign designed to play on the emotions of a population that views this as just another 'reality T.V.' program."

You can read the entire article at: http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/the-use-of-media-in-conditioning-the...

And, to pique your interest further in reading, this article even elaborates on how the human brain works and is affected by hours of television watching (which should also include movie watching). Because of the way the left and right brain are affected, we often come to believe that what we are viewing is t***h, no matter how deceptive or inaccurate it is.

POINT NUMBER TWO: CAN CONSERVATIVES REALLY TRUST FOX NEWS?
After watching the Fox News "debate circus," I began to ask myself a number of questions like, first and foremost, whose side is FOX really on and what are they up to?

This was not a refreshing and an objective debate criteria, as many Americans expected. This debate forum was carefully planned to target Trump and to target the weak areas of each candidate. Now, while this might seem a sane approach, as there was some question as to whether Trump would even be allowed to participate in this debate a few weeks ago and an attack on Trump was, in a way, expected, there's more to the big picture than immediately surfaces. It would also seem logical to attack the weak areas of each candidate in order to better "clear out" and narrow down the playing field for future debates.

It gets a little more interesting, however, when one learns that FOX News is one of the top ten largest donors to the Clintons. In fact, FOX supports more money to the Democrats than to the Republicans.

"Christians and conservatives continue to be hoodwinked by FOX news," writes Tim Brown for Freedom Outpost. "Not only has the organization been supporting the sodomite agenda, but they have also been one of the top ten donors to the Clinton Family since 1992."

"Michael Lotfi reported: "To many, it seems contrary to intuition that Fox News could be one of the Clinton family's largest donors for the better part of two decades. Check your intuition at the door -- it's true. According to Federal E******n Commission and Center for Responsive Politics data, 21st Century Fox News Corp. has donated more than $3 million to Clinton family accounts. Overall, this lands Fox as the Clinton family's 9th largest donor over the course of the family's political involvement." (Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/fox-news-is-top-ten-largest-donor-to-...)

"Considering the information above, one does find it ironic that the FOX hosts on Thursday evening would have asked Donald Trump about money he gave to Clinton ... Personally, I think Trump is a liberal. The fact that he claims Socialist, single-payer healthcare 'works in Canada' and 'Scotland' just points out that he does not believe in freedom, but socialism. The fact that the father of the Canada system claims it is a failure must have slipped Trump's mind at the time. Scotland is pretty much the same deal. ...but the point is that he [Trump] was asked about this by talking heads whose company has supported the Clintons to the tune of over $3 million!"

POINT NUMBER THREE: WHO REALLY WON OR LOST THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE DEBATES?

Personally, I don't believe it's really an issue of who won and who lost, but more an issue of who is sincere and trustworthy. It's also an issue of who is tough enough to cut the mustard and has the experience to do it.

IN THE FIRST ROUND, it seems pretty clear that CARLY FIORINA --tough, poised, intelligent, sincere, and seemingly prepared to take on a fight with Hillary (???) stood out ahead of the rest. But, while Carly has the communication sk**ls, the guts, and the financial and business pizazz, is Fiorina really ready to take on this country in the divided state of chaos that America's in now? Can she handle tough foreign policies? Can she handle the i******s and illegal, imported Muslim mess? Can she secure the American borders? Can she effectively deal with a crashing national economy? Can she square off against global government forces run by big greed, big global bankers, c*******t/f*****m, the UN and the New World Order?

In fact, you have to ask yourself these questions (and more) about all of the candidates! And, you have to take a hard look at their experience and their backgrounds.

Gov Bobby Jindall, Louisiana's governor, for example, is definitely sincere, gutsy, and one of the top policy thinkers in the GOP today. Former Texas governor, Rick Perry, did much, much better than his unfortunate outing in 2012, and actually, Perry might make a good president when you look at his past experience, his ability to square off solidly against the progressive Liberal left and Obama, and the fact that he's been working hard on accomplishing such a goal for the past couple of years now. Both of these men I would put on the "good guys" team.

The other three? Exactly why are they running and what were they doing there?

IN THE SECOND DEBATE of the top ten, DONALD TRUMP stuck to the message with his usual arrogant, pompous, and sometimes amusing persona. He probably didn't hurt himself much among his avid supporters, although I do believe that he probably lost a few of them here. I doubt he gained any converts, though. But can you trust Trump? Personally, I don't.

Yes, I agree with Trump 100% about i******s and the need to secure the border. I like Trump's anti-establishment stance. But, is Trump really sincere or an undercover liberal wolf in blaring conservative clothing? Personally, I don't trust Trump anymore than I trust Bush, Christie, or Rubio.

Bush, in my books, is a RINO Republican. Although calm and seemingly sincere, his low-key approach and lack of charisma got him nowhere. And Chris Christie? I agree with a number of statements made in the article, "Fox Top Ten Republican Candidate Debate Full of Fluff 'n Stuff":

"Americans watched as Chris Christie vowed to continue and possibly expand the surveillance state by violating innnocent citizens' rights of privacy and security, proving he would better serve the public as manager of a Krispy Kreme doughnut shop." (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/08/fox-top-ten-republican-candidate-deba...)

Senator Marco Rubio, on the other hand, is very deceptive and deceiving. This man seems totally sincere and he was calm, cool, relaxed, comfortable, and in control during the debates. Rubio is an easy and effective communicator. He's likeable, fresh, and smart. But, you've got to remember that it was Rubio who cast the deciding v**e for Obamatrade as it squeaked through the U.S. Senate 60-37, and Rubio's Senate office refused to answer whether he even knew what he was v****g on. Did he even read it before he v**ed? Rubio's v**e for Obamatrade is one primary reason that I don't trust Rubio. There are others, and important ones, too. I consider Rubio a RINO Republican.(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/marco-rubio-casts...)

Coming back to DONALD TRUMP, he made it pretty darn clear that he can be a Republican snake in the grass.

Yes, FOX News set him up, and I don't use the words, "set him up" lightly. When news anchor Bret Baier asked the candidates on stage to raise their hands if they refused to pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee and not run as an independent, Trump alone raised his hand.

"Trump used to be a registered Democrat," writes Debra Saunders in an article titled, "Trump Trumps Trump." "He has donated to Clinton campaigns and causes. Before the reality TV star annnounced his candidacy, Bill Clinton reportedly urged Trump to get involved in the GOP primary. Now Republican v**ers are getting the picture. Trump might have no problem helping Hillary Rodham Clinton by siphoning conservative v**es away from the GOP in a three-way race."

There's often more to any political scenerio (and to any candidate) than immediately meets the eye. Read the rest of this article at: http://townhall.com/columnists/debrajsaunders/2015/08/08/draft-n20361...

For a whole lot more to think about and ponder, you might also want to read:
"Is Trump The Democrat 'Wolf' In GOP Clothing?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-06/trump-democrat-wolf-gop-c...

POINT NUMBER FOUR: SO WHO CAN YOU REALLY TRUST AMONG THE GOP CANDIDATES?

Ask me who I genuinely like and trust. I will tell you that I like and trust those who sincerely love God and country and who I believe will sincerely fight for America, our Constitutional rights and freedoms, and all that America has ever stood for. Among the top ten Republican candidates, I can truly say that I like, respect, and would v**e for, if they were to become the Republican p**********l nominee: Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, neurosurgeon Ben Carson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul. If they were to move up the ladder, I would also trust and v**e for Bobby Jindall, Carly Fiorina, and even Rick Perry. But, who among these are most qualified for the job? Trust and qualifications: you have got to look at both.

POINT NUMBER FIVE: SPEAKING OBJECTIVELY, THE BIGGEST LOSERS IN THE DEBATES WERE THE FOX NEWS ANCHORS AND MODERATORS who proved that they are as dirty and as biased as all Liberal mainstream media.

For the most part, FOX "set up" Trump to put him in the position of stealing the show. What was the motive? Was FOX just cutting Trump down to dump him off the ladder of fast-rising Republican popularity because Trump has both the mouth and the campaign money to be a real threat to Hillary Clinton? Or was the motive more secretive. Was FOX setting Trump up to enable him to run as a third party candidate which would inevitably assure Clinton's success in her p**********l goals by splitting the Republican v**es? Given the fact that FOX News, although appearing to be a conservative news source, is a heavy Clinton and Democratic supporter, what do you think?

And, if, indeed, Trump is really a liberal in conservative's clothing, and if, indeed, he should become the Republican nominee to run for president, how is he going to fare in gaining the v**es of millions of women and Hispanics? You've got to think about these things. Perhaps this is one reason why Megyn Kelly hit Trump with the questions she did. A whole lot of deceived and brainwashed Democratic women and Liberal progressive women are backing Hillary Clinton. Kelly made sure that she presented Trump as if he were waging a war on women. Case in point. More lost v**es for the Republican team. More v**es for Hillary Clinton.

FOX also made sure that while making the first Republican debates more of a "Donald Trump show," that they prodded other candidates on their vulnerabilities to make them look bad. Or was FOX just trying to clear out the best from the rest? What were the real motives?

I worked as an investigative reporter in the mainstream media for too many years in the past, myself, not to connect a few dots here. And, I don't like what I'm seeing.

POINT NUMBER SIX: WHICH CANDIDATES REALLY CAME OUT THE BEST OF THE BEST IN THESE DEBATES?

Rand Paul was, unfortunately, basically "silenced" by FOX News. Paul has fought long and hard for gun rights, auditing the Fed, and for a number of very important issues in Congress. And, Rand Paul, like Trey Gowdy, just won't back down. But, during the debates, he got less than five minutes in which to open his mouth. Perhaps FOX just didn't want some very important issues brought up during the debates or to the American public (???). In fact, 2nd Amendment gun rights weren't touched on at all during these first debates. Neither were Constitutional rights and Constitutional freedoms in general.

"The target question for Sen. Ted Cruz centered on his 'd******eness' as a political figure. Cruz stated that he believed Americans were looking for someone who would be t***hful. He proclaimed he 'ain't the guy' to send to Washington to go along to get along, agree with career politicians on both sides of the aisle who align with lobbyists and special interest groups. In his closing statement, he vowed to accomplish a host of things if elected. He promised to resend every illegal and unconsititutional action taken by Obama. Cruz said he would instruct the DOJ to investigate the Planned Parenthood videos and prosecute Planned Parenhood for any criminal violations. He will direct the IRS and DOJ to put an end to the persecution of religious liberty. He stated he would move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and cancel the Iran Deal. Most importaly, Cruz promised to keep his word and fight for liberty."

Personally, I believe that Ted Cruz and Ben Carson are among the best of the best. I firmly believe that both of these men honestly mean what they say and will do all in their power to accomplish their goals were they to become the president of this country. However, as of now, both have a problem. Carson's is primarily his political inexperience, but that didn't stop the former neurosurgeon from having the best of the best of the closing statments.

And, despite the fact that it is a well-known fact that our current White House resident is an imposter (the North American Law Center has issued three articles of impeachment against Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah, in which ARTICLE 1 details the documents and evidence and relates to "Usurpation of the Oval Office via criminal identity fraud") some are still waiting on Cruz to justify his bid for presidency knowing his ineligible status.

When speaking about being t***hful, addressing that issue is a priority. (The same goes for Marco Rubio -- justify the bid for presidency knowing his ineligible status.)

POINT NUMBER SEVEN: DID THE REPUBLICAN DEBATES ON FOX REALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING BUT ENTERTAINMENT?

Hopefully, we were able to glean a little bit more insight about each of the candidates, their personalities, and their characters. But, you've got to remember, the "Republican debate show" was basically directed by moderators with FOX News and FOX News political motives. Having worked in the media in the past, I am well aware that all news media is "slanted" to the editorial and political directives of the media "owners." So where is FOX really going? Conservative? Or is FOX a seemingly conservative news source with Liberal underpinnings and motives? (Is FOX a deceptive media wolf in sheep's clothing?)

After being this longwinded, I'll cut to the chase in closing with this insight:

Back around the year 2,000, the Lord gave me a vision. I was looking down a narrow dirt street in an old Western town. In the middle of that street, two gunfighters faced off ready for the draw. The old Western storefronts on that street, however, were not real buildings. They were simply facades -- f**e, painted storefronts held up by boards behind them propped up to anchor them there and keep them from falling over. It looked like a real street in an old Western town. But, it was only a superficial deception.

"Americans believe that they live in a free and democratic nation," the Lord said to me. "But they don't."

It's all an illusion. An artifical and a carefully contrived deception. Can we really hope to beat this socialist/c*******t/Islamic takeover of our country? Can we really hope to beat the global New World Order/UN takeover? Does any Republican candidate really have a chance to win the 2016 e******n (if, in fact, there is a 2016 e******n)? I suppose, all in all, we can only keep trying, fighting, and praying. And, we can hope and trust in the Lord where we find real salvation. He, for One, will never leave us or forsake us.

May God bless all of those Republican candidates who sincerely love this country, will fight for this country and her Constitution, and sincerely mean what they say.

Mel Havener

DANIELLE,
You about covered most all my thoughts. I have mixed feelings about who to v**e for as will see who is tops but, I just hope Cruze is really legal and I felt we might as well of had a Democrat media asking the questions as Fox sure wasn't fair. If the little lady didn't want to get smashed, she should not of slammed Trump as she did. I really thought of her nose bleeding not d********g thoughts otherwise, Correct? I would not want my own wife to be told that BUT, when you toss in a turd, you should expect one back, not a hand full of roses as most of the others would have replyed with, Correct? Keep up the good reports and is there any where else I can read about your Ideas? Mel

Mel Havener

DANIELLE,
You about covered most all of my thoughts. I have mixed feelings about who to v**e for as will see who is tops but, Trump? Yes and I just hope Cruze is really legal and I felt we might as well of had a Democrat media asking the questions as Fox sure wasn't fair. If the little lady didn't want to get smashed, she should not of slammed Trump as she did. I really thought of her nose bleeding not d********g thoughts otherwise, Correct? I would not want my own wife to be told that BUT, when you toss in a turd, you should expect one back, not a hand full of roses as most of the others would have replyed with, Correct? Keep up the good reports and is there any where else I can read about your Ideas? Mel

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

One major concern to me is that three of the candidates a
re not natural born citizens and therefore not eligible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aCfR8rmrw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oIW5lPsfZM


http://www.resonoelusono.com/naturalborncitizen.htm

Mel Havener

Hprinze,
Rebio, Cruze and who else?
Thank's for your information.
Mel

okie don

EXCELLENT POST DANIELLE...

Seems your 'overview' of this political 'dog and pony show' corresponds to mine.

We all know, the PTB are not gonna let anyone move forward that they can't control 100%..

Ron Paul was a perfect example and now Rand is being shut down for the most part.

Your post should be on www.Newswithviews.com as it was terrific lady.(:

Mel Havener

Okie don.
I agree 100 %. Just look what Ron had been doing with out any party backing it seems.If any one has backed him, I would like to know who they were.
Mel

okie don

Good point.
It's a mystery.
Perhaps it's mainly CONCERNED AMERICANS DONATIONS???

okie don

Mel,
Check out:
www.veteranstoday.com
TGEY are telling us who's running the show and I, personally think, their 100% on target. (RKM) that's got us by TGE throat and has since 1913 when Pres. Wilsonscrewed ul big time and knew it!!!(:

buffalo Loc: Texas

For anyone interested this is from Conservative Review:

Ted Cruz immerges as the clear No. 1 choice for countermoonbats.

Lindsey Grahamnesty and Krispy Kreme Christy need to try a little harder. They both fail to achieve the perfect green-free scores of Bleb Bush and Gnarly Fiorina.

To quickly sort the wheat from the chaff, look to the immigration row. This issue matters more than the rest put together, because if the Third World floodgates are not closed quickly, every other issue is lost. CR won’t have to bother with graphics like this, because every candidate will have to be red on every issue to stand a chance of being elected.

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

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Bobby Jindal, born of two foreigner parents

Mel Havener

hprinze, Thanks Mel

Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM

Agree 100% about the immigration issue, buffalo. I LIVE in a border city. This country is being over-run by i******s and illegal, imported Muslims. In fact, in this city, we had bombs go off at two churches Sunday before last, and the biggest mall in Cruces cleared because of bomb threats last week. I am more than aware of all the problems, health and security threats to Americans, and even deaths (some very gruesome) that these i******s are causing. Not to mention the burden on our economy supporting approximately 88% of them with all the freebies, and the fact that they are now taking a huge number of American jobs away from American citizens. I am also well aware of the Islamic/UN/Obama agenda and the number of Muslim Brotherhood affiliated persons and Muslims now in the Obama administration. I'm far from a happy camper.

I AGREE 100% with Trump that the borders need to be secured (they're wide open now) and the illegal situation reigned in immediately. Personally, though, I just don't trust Trump. Too many ties -- both past and present -- with the Clintons. Too many questions unanswered. Is Trump for real? Is he sincere? Personally, I wouldn't bank on it. And, like I mentioned in the article, if Trump is a liberal in disguise, he's a wolf in a big blast of conservative clothing.

I LIKE TRUMP's ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT STYLE. I like the fact that he gets right in the face of the so-called politically correct agenda. He is pompous and arrogant, but it suits Trumps style. He has the mouth to say it and he has the money to back it. I simply DO NOT TRUST HIM, and I would suggest that anyone backing Trump do a lot of investigation into his liberal and Clinton connections. Why has Bill Clinton been urging Trump to run for the GOP nomination, for example? What do you make of that?

If Trump should end up running as an independent, we're really in mess. Republican v**es will be split assuring that Hillary Clinton hits a home run for the White House.

The point of my article was to really get conservatives thinking and checking out the candidates carefully. I also hope that conservatives will dig out information from a large number of news sources and not only FOX News. Yes, it "appears" that Trump makes the most logical choice given his current stance on i*****l i*********n, and the fact that he does have the ability to finance a strong campaign. Still, I don't trust the man.

When it comes to Trump vs Megyn Kelly, I could care less. She set Trump up and she got what she "expected." Or was it what she and FOX News anticipated to be the outcome? The Liberal media is already making a big deal about how Trump made sexist and politically incorrect comments toward women and Megyn Kelly. Now the Liberal news media is going to bat for Kelly. She's obviously been attacked in that "war on women" the liberals claim that all Republicans have on women. Yeah, right.

What is FOX News up to? They present a good conservative front and do deliver conservative news up to a point. But, considering the fact that FOX gives generously to the Clinton family, you've got to look at the underpinnings.

FOX set up the Republican debates to go exactly as they planned for them to go. Conservatives need to keep their thinking caps on, their eyes wide open, and not take anything at what appears to be face value. It's not always the liberals who are targets of deception. This is supposed to be an e******n in 2016 -- not a reality TV program. This is supposed to be an e******n in 2016 -- not a politically planned facade.

In fact, to tell you the t***h, I believe that whoever the global heirarchy wants in the p**********l office is going to be in the p**********l office. The socialist/c*******t progressive Liberal movement in this country, closely linked to the big g*******t bankers, the UN, and the New World Order has, basically, already taken over this country. The Liberal and mainstream media is a very big tool of these organizations in sustaining the brainwashing of the masses. I seriously doubt that there will ever be another truly honest-to-goodness and above-board e******n in America. Oh sure, they would like us to believe that we live in a democratic nation, that all the v**es will be honestly counted, etc., etc., but I can just about guarantee you that whoever they want in the White House for wh**ever their political reasons is going to be in the White House.

And, that's not to mention that the Left is working hard to make sure that all of the i******s and illegal, imported Muslims have the right to v**e, even if they are not American citizens. After all, that's one of the primary reasons we're over-run with them in America. It was a political ploy from day one. Who wouldn't v**e for the hand that feeds you?

America's in a mess, as Trump says. We're in a mess with all the i******s and in a mess with the economy. We're in a lot of other messes, too. Big ones.

While I do agree solidly with a lot of what Trump says, I still DON'T TRUST HIM.

Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM

Hi, okie don. Yes, I believe that Rand Paul is primarily backed by grassroots donations. And, believe it or not, he has been able to raise quite a lot of them.

I get around 50-100 e-mails everyday concerning politics. Rand Paul is always putting out petitions to fight for this or that in Congress. This man, like Trey Gowdy, seems absolutely tireless when it comes to any cause he is fighting for, be that cause audit the Feds, the fight against Planned Parenthood, his fight against the big labor unions, or trying to save American 2nd Amendment gun rights.

With each petition is always a place to donate if you choose. And, Rand Paul also puts out a newsletter which I also receive by e-mail.

Actually, I like Rand Paul. He's a gutsy fighter and extremely sincere. He just won't back down.

While I doubt there is a possibility of Paul becoming president, I do believe that for all of his hard and ongoing work for this country and to save the Constitution, Rand Paul gets little credit where big credit is really due.

It's really too bad that more Americans really don't know the Rand Paul who fights tooth and nail for this country. He's always under attack from a large percentage of the Liberal and RINO Republican Congress. But he won't give up or give in.

While I can't say that I agree 100% with Paul on every issue, I do back him in what he is trying to accomplish for America a good deal of the time.

Rand Paul knows more about a lot of issues in the Congress than many other Congress people do. That's one reason that I believe FOX News shut Paul down during the debates. He has some very important things to say. Apparently "somebody" didn't want the American people to hear it.

God bless

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God