For what it's worth: For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class w****s. The...

Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix

For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment.
The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class w****s. The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into s***ery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population? The w****s were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former s***es had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors.

America has struggled with racial discord ever since. Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedmans Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball. Their new laws intruded into peoples lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice versa.They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless handwringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded w****s to Celebrate Diversity and Say No to R****m. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment. Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated b****s would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what b****s were capable of. There is a Talented Tenth. They are the b***k A******ns who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists.
But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing. Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And b****s never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment. Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit , Watts, Newark , Los Angeles , Cincinnati , and now Ferguson , r**ting and l**ting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesnt mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities. But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue its a problem of culture, as if culture creates peoples behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.

But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India , people who are not white, not rich, and not connected, have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the countrys violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white r****m. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an unfixable and crime ridden mess. They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the r****m of others - but by their own hatred of non-b****s. Our rulers dont seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. They dont understand that white people arent out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity. The elites explain everything with r****m, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."--- "You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Baltimore Sun

moldyoldy

Squiddiddler wrote:

For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment.
The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class w****s. The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into s***ery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population? The w****s were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former s***es had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors.

America has struggled with racial discord ever since. Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedmans Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball. Their new laws intruded into peoples lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice versa.They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless handwringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded w****s to Celebrate Diversity and Say No to R****m. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment. Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated b****s would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what b****s were capable of. There is a Talented Tenth. They are the b***k A******ns who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists.
But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing. Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And b****s never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment. Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit , Watts, Newark , Los Angeles , Cincinnati , and now Ferguson , r**ting and l**ting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesnt mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities. But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue its a problem of culture, as if culture creates peoples behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.

But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India , people who are not white, not rich, and not connected, have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the countrys violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white r****m. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an unfixable and crime ridden mess. They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the r****m of others - but by their own hatred of non-b****s. Our rulers dont seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. They dont understand that white people arent out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity. The elites explain everything with r****m, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."--- "You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Baltimore Sun

For almost 150 years the United States has been co... (show quote)

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

Glaucon

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

Your source for the accusation that the post is a f**e?????
I am not disputing it, I just want to know if your accusation of f**ery is true.

Glaucon

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

Your source for the accusation that the post is a f**e?????
I am not disputing it, I just want to know if your accusation of f**ery is true.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

How and why is it f**e? You have the proof to refute it?

Glaucon

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

I haven't seen it before, but I am sure I have missed many things that have been posted many times on this site.

It is obviously r****t and no statement of its author or source of publication and I would be interested in both.

Glaucon

Squiddiddler wrote:

For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment.
The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class w****s. The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into s***ery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population? The w****s were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former s***es had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors.

America has struggled with racial discord ever since. Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedmans Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball. Their new laws intruded into peoples lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable. They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice versa.They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless handwringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded w****s to Celebrate Diversity and Say No to R****m. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment. Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated b****s would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what b****s were capable of. There is a Talented Tenth. They are the b***k A******ns who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists.
But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing. Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And b****s never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment. Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit , Watts, Newark , Los Angeles , Cincinnati , and now Ferguson , r**ting and l**ting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesnt mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities. But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue its a problem of culture, as if culture creates peoples behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.

But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India , people who are not white, not rich, and not connected, have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the countrys violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white r****m. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an unfixable and crime ridden mess. They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the r****m of others - but by their own hatred of non-b****s. Our rulers dont seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. They dont understand that white people arent out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity. The elites explain everything with r****m, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."--- "You can't legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government doesn't first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they don't have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Baltimore Sun

For almost 150 years the United States has been co... (show quote)

The article is an excellent example of scientists have named, the fundamental attribution error. It is the major flaw in our thinking that causes racial and socioeconomic discrimination and poverty. Don't look fundamental attribution error on the internet unless the article made sense to you.

moldyoldy

Glaucon wrote:

Your source for the accusation that the post is a f**e?????
I am not disputing it, I just want to know if your accusation of f**ery is true.

While many online postings of the above-displayed article in June 2015 claimed that it had been recently published in Baltimore Sun, this article has actually been circulating on the Internet since at least September 2014, when it was published under the title Ten Percent Is Not Enough in the American Renaissance blog.

The American Renaissance posting was originally attributed to Anthony Bryan; but his name was stripped from versions shared via Internet forums, craigslist postings, and comments sections of several race-related articles. Several different authorial names have been attached to the piece, including John S. Mosby (a Confederate cavalry officer) and Edmund Hughes, but the article didnt truly go v***l until after the Baltimore Sun attribution was tacked on.

Last updated: 10 June 2015

Read more at http://m.snopes.com/politics-soapbox-black-dilemma/#rcwDLhcdvUMZ96gP.99

Glaucon

moldyoldy wrote:

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Thanks for the clarification.

boofhead

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

The problem with the article as posted is the attribution. I did not see anything that claims the statements made in the article are not true.

However if you say that the news post is "f**e" you have put doubt in many people that the article itself is not accurate. Nicely done.

How about a refutation of the points made in the article? It resonates with me and I am not a r****t. I would suggest that those who do not like the article itself or what it says are the true r****ts.

Glaucon

PoppaGringo wrote:

How and why is it f**e? You have the proof to refute it?

Does Moldy's explanation clarify it for you?

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Glaucon wrote:

Does Moldy's explanation clarify it for you?

Regardless of when it was written, it hasn't been refuted.

moldyoldy

boofhead wrote:

The problem with the article as posted is the attr... (show quote)

Well we could fault people who write things like cthis, just to feed into the assumptions of other like minded people. They ignore the Black kids that are accepted into all eight ivy league schools. The black high school kid that invents a medical device. The huge graduating classes from Black colleges. No we only concentrate on the untalented tenth.

moldyoldy

PoppaGringo wrote:

Regardless of when it was written, it hasn't been refuted.

It never will be refuted in your ignorant mind. No matter what the t***h is.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

moldyoldy wrote:

This is a f**e news post, that has been posted here several times.

Yeah, besides, according to the latest census data - w****s are now the minority. So, I wonder how w****s will find a way to assimilate themselves - in a country numbering more b****s and browns than w****s?

Maybe - that's what's got so many w****s scared to death. Now that they're the minority, they're afraid of some pay back. :shock: