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Aug 6, 2015 07:55:15   #
man on a boat Loc: Indianapolis
 
My first day on OPP. I hope, by working together, we can protect the Constitution. I support the 5th Amendment movement.

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Aug 6, 2015 08:27:53   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Welcome, man on a boat. I look forward to learning your points of view.

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Aug 6, 2015 08:42:06   #
MarvinSussman
 
man on a boat wrote:
My first day on OPP. I hope, by working together, we can protect the Constitution. I support the 5th Amendment movement.


What does the 5th Amendment movement want?

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Aug 6, 2015 09:22:35   #
man on a boat Loc: Indianapolis
 
The fifth amendment allows 2/3 of the 50 states to establish a Constitutional Convention outside of the Congress and Senate. At first I was a little uneasy about this thinking it would result in a complete re-write of the Constitution. This is not true. The 38 states would all need to agree on the changes before the Constitution could be convened. If you believe in the Constitution, as I do, you will understand that this movement is going to be the only way we can take this country back.

Take a look at this link
http://www.conventionofstates.com/

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Aug 6, 2015 09:48:57   #
MarvinSussman
 
man on a boat wrote:
The fifth amendment allows 2/3 of the 50 states to establish a Constitutional Convention outside of the Congress and Senate. At first I was a little uneasy about this thinking it would result in a complete re-write of the Constitution. This is not true. The 38 states would all need to agree on the changes before the Constitution could be convened. If you believe in the Constitution, as I do, you will understand that this movement is going to be the only way we can take this country back.

Take a look at this link
http://www.conventionofstates.com/
The fifth amendment allows 2/3 of the 50 states t... (show quote)


This is what I found on the internet:

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the m*****a, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Nothing there about a convention. Is it a misprint?

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Aug 6, 2015 09:50:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
man on a boat wrote:
My first day on OPP. I hope, by working together, we can protect the Constitution. I support the 5th Amendment movement.


So do I.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the m*****a, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Welcome to OPP. Jump in when you feel froggy, everyone else does.

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Aug 6, 2015 10:00:19   #
man on a boat Loc: Indianapolis
 
Very sorry, my error. Article IV is what I intended. My name should be "old" man on a boat. Check this.....

http://constitutioncenter.org/constitution/the-articles/article-iv-the-states

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Aug 6, 2015 11:27:29   #
MarvinSussman
 
man on a boat wrote:
Very sorry, my error. Article IV is what I intended. My name should be "old" man on a boat. Check this.....

http://constitutioncenter.org/constitution/the-articles/article-iv-the-states

This is what I found at your link, which says nothing about a convention.

How old are you, really?

SECTION. 1. Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

SECTION. 2. The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

SECTION. 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

SECTION. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

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Aug 6, 2015 13:38:12   #
man on a boat Loc: Indianapolis
 
To answer your question. Too old I guess. Third time's a charm. I am sorry.

The United States Constitution is unusually difficult to amend. As spelled out in Article V, the Constitution can be amended in one of two ways. First, amendment can take place by a v**e of two-thirds of both the House of Representatives and the Senate followed by a ratification of three-fourths of the various state legislatures (ratification by thirty-eight states would be required to ratify an amendment today). This first method of amendment is the only one used to date. Second, the Constitution might be amended by a Convention called for this purpose by two-thirds of the state legislatures, if the Convention's proposed amendments are later ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures.

Source:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/articleV.htm

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Aug 6, 2015 13:49:30   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
man on a boat wrote:
To answer your question. Too old I guess. Third time's a charm. I am sorry.

The United States Constitution is unusually difficult to amend. As spelled out in Article V, the Constitution can be amended in one of two ways. First, amendment can take place by a v**e of two-thirds of both the House of Representatives and the Senate followed by a ratification of three-fourths of the various state legislatures (ratification by thirty-eight states would be required to ratify an amendment today). This first method of amendment is the only one used to date. Second, the Constitution might be amended by a Convention called for this purpose by two-thirds of the state legislatures, if the Convention's proposed amendments are later ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures.

Source:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/articleV.htm
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Are you referring to the movements in places like Colorado, Texas and Northern California/Oregon to form new states? Or are you referring to the Convention of States being bruited about to amend the Constitution?
I believe the former has only happened in West VA, prior to the War Between the States.

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Aug 7, 2015 01:50:08   #
MarvinSussman
 
man on a boat wrote:
To answer your question. Too old I guess. Third time's a charm. I am sorry.

The United States Constitution is unusually difficult to amend. As spelled out in Article V, the Constitution can be amended in one of two ways. First, amendment can take place by a v**e of two-thirds of both the House of Representatives and the Senate followed by a ratification of three-fourths of the various state legislatures (ratification by thirty-eight states would be required to ratify an amendment today). This first method of amendment is the only one used to date. Second, the Constitution might be amended by a Convention called for this purpose by two-thirds of the state legislatures, if the Convention's proposed amendments are later ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures.

Source:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/articleV.htm
To answer your question. Too old I guess. Third ... (show quote)


Assuming you manage to get a convention called by two-thirds of the state legislatures, what amendment or amendments will you propose?

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Aug 8, 2015 02:24:20   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
man on a boat wrote:
The fifth amendment allows 2/3 of the 50 states to establish a Constitutional Convention outside of the Congress and Senate. At first I was a little uneasy about this thinking it would result in a complete re-write of the Constitution. This is not true. The 38 states would all need to agree on the changes before the Constitution could be convened. If you believe in the Constitution, as I do, you will understand that this movement is going to be the only way we can take this country back.

Take a look at this link
http://www.conventionofstates.com/
The fifth amendment allows 2/3 of the 50 states t... (show quote)

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Since when can you convene the constitution?

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Aug 8, 2015 02:46:13   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Alicia wrote:
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Since when can you convene the constitution?


It has been done in our Nation's Past History, but then you c*******t only keep up with anything to do with destruction and mayhem tactics on how to destroy the USA.

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Aug 8, 2015 08:04:42   #
man on a boat Loc: Indianapolis
 
The following article was originally published on The Washington Times.

Alabama has become the fourth state to pass legislation calling for a constitutional convention of states to limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government.

Last week’s move made Alabama the first state to pass such legislation this year after Georgia, Florida, and Alaska which passed the Convention of States resolution in 2014.

The Convention of States efforts hinges on Article V of the U.S. Constitution, which allows Congress to propose amendments and “on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, Congress shall call a convention for proposing amendments.”

Alabama’s resolution would impose fiscal restraints on the federal government and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.

In a statement Thursday, Terry Richmond, Alabama legislative liaison said he was “overwhelmed by the support we received from both volunteers and legislators over the past few months. The dedication, vision, and prayers of every volunteer in the state, along with the hard work and commitment of our sponsors and their staff, is what made this victory possible. The people of Alabama should hold their heads high — they’ve implemented the Founders tool to fight federal overreach, and we’re one step closer to turning a Convention of States into a reality.”

Convention of States co-founder Mark Meckler said “The citizens of the great state of Alabama have stepped up and joined the movement to tell the federal government to back off by passing the Convention of States resolution by overwhelming majorities. Legislation is pending in many other states, with Texas and Kansas next in line. The citizens are speaking; it’s time for the states to put the federal government back in the box.”

Legislatures in 36 states have constitutional convention resolutions now making their way through committees and other parts of the legislative process.

At least 34 states, or two-thirds, must pass applications for a convention and ultimately would need a sign-off from Congress to hold a convention. Thirty-eight states must then ratify any amendment proposals coming out of such a convention.

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Aug 8, 2015 08:19:04   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
man on a boat wrote:
My first day on OPP. I hope, by working together, we can protect the Constitution. I support the 5th Amendment movement.

Welcome aboard, Man on a boat. I see you are getting an idea of what to expect on the forum. It may not always prove so civil. :wink:

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