A Citizens Tax Plan (Page 3): On January 1st of every year, a list of all Federal Agencies will be issued to citizens. Each agency will provide a five line "bullet" point description...

emarine

AuntiE wrote:

There are not 450 agencies. There are Departments, ie. Agriculture, Commerce, Education, HHS, Labor, etc. Each Department has a specific mandate.

On January 1st of every year, a list of all Federal Agencies will be issued to citizens. Each agency will provide a five line "bullet" point description of the agency's major functions. A separate list of all agencies (without description) will be included in the package.
As of 08/22/13 there are 456 Gov. Agencies on the books in the USA, Did you mean 5 Departments?

andrew998 Loc: NYC

Geno36 wrote:

The point I make is that "We the People" (In the past) chose to establish a republic and to do otherwise means a complete new constitution. To do that in this day and time would constitute the last act of suicide for America.

No, I don't agree. If the Founding Fathers were able to see what their invention had morphed into, they would have said "We have failed to create a lasting system" or something to that effect. The status quo as it stands is run by the lobbyists and special interest groups that capture any Senator you elect. Once he goes to DC, you lose communication with him and they go off and do wh**ever they all want. That's not how its supposed to be.

AuntiE's suggestion is that we control at least part of the purse strings of which agencies/departments get more funding and which less. It causes the general populace to pay a little more attention to it all as well as moving a little closer to government by the people, for the people.

Geno36 Loc: Texas

Because we are not operating as a republic. The system is so damn corrupt we are now an oligarcy.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

emarine wrote:

On January 1st of every year, a list of all Federal Agencies will be issued to citizens. Each agency will provide a five line "bullet" point description of the agency's major functions. A separate list of all agencies (without description) will be included in the package.
As of 08/22/13 there are 456 Gov. Agencies on the books in the USA, Did you mean 5 Departments?

You are absolutely correct. I should not have used the word agencies. I should have correctly used Departments. Thank you for the catch and correction.

Loki Loc: Georgia

AuntiE wrote:

Our finance guru arrives. Comments?

Cross my palm with silver, oh aspirants to knowledge and pecuniary peculations.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Geno36 wrote:

Because we are not operating as a republic. The system is so damn corrupt we are now an oligarcy.

More like a bureaucracy, since Congress has decided to abdicate (they call it delegate) their responsibilities, fiduciary and otherwise, to unelected, unaccountable, overpaid and underbrained apparatchiks whose regulations and pronunciamentos have the force of law until some judge gets around to declaring them null and void (or not).

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Geno36 wrote:

Because we are not operating as a republic. The system is so damn corrupt we are now an oligarcy.

This is NOT a direct attack on you, but a response to your comment.

Whose fault is it the system is "corrupt"? We the people now to accept some accountability. How many people who are eligible to r******r to v**e have failed to do so? How many people throw up their hands and declare their v**e does not matter? How many people fail to minimally check on Congressional legislation? How many people fail to call their elected officials and say, "I am a constituent and do not agree with your position on thus and so." I reiterate yet again, "We the People."

bahmer

oldroy wrote:

Are you sure AuntiE is old enough to be President? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
She said she wasn't so old as I said back a way.

Well we may have to fudge a little to get her to the 35 mark but with some hair dye and proper makeup I think we can get her to look that old but getting her to act that old may be a challenge. I wonder if by chance her parents are both American citizens.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

banjojack wrote:

Cross my palm with silver, oh aspirants to knowledge and pecuniary peculations.

You obviously would make a perfect politician, always looking for a payoff of some sort.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

bahmer wrote:

Well we may have to fudge a little to get her to the 35 mark but with some hair dye and proper makeup I think we can get her to look that old but getting her to act that old may be a challenge. I wonder if by chance her parents are both American citizens.

All the way back to Williamsburg, Virginia. Bred to the bone Virginian! :-D

I do meet the chronological requirements. Mental may be questionable :mrgreen:

Loki Loc: Georgia

AuntiE wrote:

You obviously would make a perfect politician, always looking for a payoff of some sort.

I plan to start my own political party, the "Governmental Reform Party," which shall have as it's raison d'etre, astonishingly enough, governmental reform! The platform is based on two guiding principles: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and "If you can't afford it, don't buy it." Our motto will be "A tall tree and a short rope." My first official act will be to draw up a Rogues' List of candidates for said tree and rope, and my first cost cutting measure will be to make them pay for their own funerals with some of the money they have fleeced their constituents out of. (Yes, Auntie, I KNOW I just ended a sentence with a preposition).

bahmer

AuntiE wrote:

All the way back to Williamsburg, Virginia. Bred to the bone Virginian! :-D

I do meet the chronological requirements. Mental may be questionable :mrgreen:

Never a question on this side of the fence my dear never on this side. We will take you all the way. You are definitely more qualified than the i***t in the white house now and you surpass him by a huge margin.

Loki Loc: Georgia

bahmer wrote:

Never a question on this side of the fence my dear never on this side. We will take you all the way. You are definitely more qualified than the i***t in the white house now and you surpass him by a huge margin.

Big deal! A sponge is more qualified than the current occupant. Being more qualified than Tovarisch Obama is hardly a ringing endorsement.

bahmer

banjojack wrote:

I plan to start my own political party, the "... (show quote)

I love your platform I am in. Where do I sign up?

andrew998 Loc: NYC

Old_Gringo wrote:

While i wouldn't deign to call you a C*******t, I would conclude that you are very close to being a Socialist. Would I be correct in this assessment? Of course I would be remiss if I didn't inform you that that is just one step below C*******m/Marxism.

If some one is not a conservative it doesn't mean that he is automatically a Socialist. What I want to see is honest government whose policies benefit the country as a majority, not just the wealthy 1%. That was why we needed TARP to stem the unemployment. That's why the Fed buys Treasuries from the banks so they will have money to lend. I wish it didn't cost that much either but I do know that tax breaks for the wealthy and reduced government spending will not have brought the economy back from recession. It does the opposite. That's why I am liberal. I am against policies they have convinced you are correct when, in fact, they are not even considered in any course on Macro Economics. Its simply a ruse to allow Adelson, Koch bros., Trump and the rest to l**t the Treasury with tax breaks and nothing more. Look at it objectively.