eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees

http://israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Pharisees.htm


There are so many Christians who don’t know who the Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees are and why Yahshua so vehemently condemned. So we will present you with a small amount of Biblical history. The population of Southern Judea during the time of Yahshua, in spite of what Christians believe, was comprised of a mixed multitude including Edomites. Esau’s (means RED) descendants became known as Edomites or Idumeans. And Yahweh hated Esau:

“I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.” (Malachi 1:2-3)

“As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” (Romans 9:13)

Years earlier, more than 95% of the entire House of Israel was taken into captivity and dispersed throughout the world in what is called the diaspora in Greek. A remnant, around 40,000 of those people taken captive in Babylon, returned 70 years later to rebuild the walls and temple of Jerusalem. THERE WAS A MIXED MULTITUDE (mongrel races) ALREADY OCCUPYING THE TERRITORY.

Flavus Josephus (Judahite historian and a military general of priestly and royal descent who lived from 37 A.D., to 100 A.D.) Confirms Edomite occupation in southern Judea.

“That country is also called Judea, and the people Jews; and this name is given also to as many as embrace their religion (Judaism), though of other nations. But then upon what foundation so good a governor as Hyrcanus (grandson of Mattathias patriarch of the Maccabees, a family of Judahite patriots of 2nd and 1st centuries B.C.) Took upon himself to compel these Idumeans (Edomites) either to become Jews or to leave their country, deserves great consideration. I suppose it was because they had long ago been driven out of the land of Edom, and had SEIZED ON AND POSSESSED THE TRIBE OF SIMEON (their land not the people), AND ALL THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, WHICH WAS THE PECULIAR INHERITANCE OF THE WORSHIPERS OF THE TRUE GOD WITHOUT IDOLATRY...”

The late Dr. Bertrand L. Comparet stated:

“During the time that the southern kingdom of Judah was practically empty during the Babylonian captivity, the EDOMITES WERE DRIVEN OUT OF MOUNT SEIR by a heavy invasion of an Arab people, the Nabateans, from the east. So the Edomites were driven westward. Now they couldn’t go southwest or straight west: weren’t strong enough to fight the Egyptians. So they went slightly north of west and TOOK OVER THE SOUTHERLY HALF OF WHAT HAD BEEN THE KINGDOM OF JUDAH, and settled there.

“When the little remnant came back from Babylon, the books of Era and Nehemiah show that 42,600, or something like that, came back. But lists them by their families: and you ran those down and you find that slightly over 8,000 of these were not from any tribe of Israel.

“In other words, only 34,000 of the 42,000 that came back were Israelites of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and a few Levites among them. Now they were too few to drive out these numerous and warlike Edomites; all they could do was settle in the little territory left to them. To give you an idea of the size of that; the entire territory of the twelve tribed nation of Israel before it broke up, set down here in Southern California, would extend form the Mexican border to the southerly part of Los Angeles; and inland from the coast, it never was more than 40 miles wide.

“Now divide that into thirds. The northerly two thirds of that comprised the kingdom of Israel; the ten tribed, northern kingdom. So only the southerly one-third of that was the Kingdom of Judah. Now of that one-third, take out the southerly half of that, now occupied by the Edomites, and the little strip left is all that remains for the true Judahites and Benjamites to settle in. Before the captivity, the tribe of Judah had been on the south, the tribe of Benjamin on the north, with the city of Jerusalem lying right on the boundary line between them. Well, they sorted themselves out as well as they could the way they had before; Judah on the south, and Benjamin pushed to the north.

“But Benjamin couldn’t just move up to the north a little bit, because north of them was Samaria (remember, you divide this twelve tribe territory into thirds), the middle third constituted Samaria. Both Isaiah and Kings and Chronicles tell you that when the Assyrians captured the northern kingdom of Israel and deported all its people, they brought other people from Assyria and settled them in Samaria. Now it purposely failed to say they settled anybody in Galilee, the northern most portion; because they didn’t, they left it vacant. Now the Benjamites were pushed to the north by the Judahites, as they returned after the captivity. They just couldn’t move up into Samaria: that was fully settled. So they had to leap-frog over Samaria to the vacant Galilee, to the north of that.

“Now remember, up in Galilee was Christ’s own home town of Nazareth. He was born in Bethlehem, down close to Jerusalem, but his family home was up in Nazareth. You remember He got nearly all of his converts up in Galilee; and of the twelve disciples only Judas was a Jew. Your Bible calls him Judas Iscariot: and there is no such word as “Iscariot” in any language know the man. It is a corruption of the Hebrew word “Ish Kerioth,” meaning, a man of Kerioth, and Kerioth is a little village down in the southwesterly portion of Judea, down in the territory occupied by the Edomites. So Judas was an Edomite Jew, and he was the only Jew of the twelve. The other eleven were all Galileans, therefore, Benjaminites.

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, one of the leading authorities on Judaism asserted:

"Parseeism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name...THE SPIRIT OF THE ANCIENT PHARISEE SURVIVES UNALTERED."

In a serially produced installment of a best-seller by Jewish author Herman Wouk, we find the heading "The Talmudic Heart's Blood of the Jewish Faith." He says:

"The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe, whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed or merely spasmodic sentimentalists, we follow the Talmud. It is our Common Law!"

This last pleased the rabbi very much. This filthy and false story to defame Christ is used in a typical Pharisee lie by Rabbi Louis Finkelstein in his publication "The Pharisees." (See pages xv-xvi of the Foreword) Rodkinson (M. Levi Frumkin), who made the first English translation of the Babylonian Talmud, asks, in the section on the History of the Talmud:

"Is the literature that Jesus was familiar with in his early years yet in existence in the world? Is it possible for us to get at it?...To such inquiries the learned class of Jewish rabbis answer by holding up the Talmud... THE TALMUD then, IS THE WRITTEN FORM OF THAT WHICH, IN THE TIME OF JESUS, WAS CALLED THE TRADITIONS OF THE ELDERS, and to which he makes frequent allusions."

Luke 22:54-59: And the space of one hour after another confidently affirmed, saying, Of truth this fellow (Peter) also was with him: for he is a Galilean.

Herod an Edomite chieftain, conquered and became king of Judea, under the Roman Empire...In 40 B.C., the Romans recognized him as governor with the title, Ethnarch, and in 37 B.C., they formally recognized him as the local King of Judea. Of course, he was subject to Roman foreign policy but he had complete, self-government at home.

In Josephus’“Antiquities of the Jews,” the “Wars of the Jews,” Book 4, chapter 4 and 5, and chapter 6, he continues to tell of the horrible conduct of these Edomite Jews within the besieged city of Jerusalem while it was undergoing siege by Titus in the year 70 A.D. Their robbery and massacre of the inhabitants inflicted probably more casualties than the Roman army did.

In the Jewish Encyclopedia, the article “Edom”...the article “Edom” concludes with these words:

“The Edomites are found today in modern Jewry.

“These Edomites had come in first, when they were given full citizenship by John Hyrcanus; second, they had come in as a wave of conquerors under Herod (that is the same Herod who tried to murder Yahshua as a baby).”......

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

April 30, 2013 – One of the common critiques leveled at present-day Christianity is that it’s a religion full of hypocritical people.

A new Barna Group study examines the degree to which this perception may be accurate. The study explores how well Christians seem to emulate the actions and attitudes of Jesus in their interactions with others.

The research project was directed by David Kinnaman, president of Barna Group, in conjunction with John Burke, author of Mud and the Masterpiece, a book exploring the attitudes and actions of Jesus in all of his encounters.

Assessing Christlikeness
In this nationwide study of self-identified Christians, the goal was to determine whether Christians have the actions and attitude of Jesus as they interact with others or if they are more akin to the beliefs and behaviors of Pharisees, the self-righteous sect of religious leaders described in the New Testament.

In order to assess this, Barna researchers presented a series of 20 agree-or-disagree statements. Five actions and five attitudes that seem to best encapsulate the actions and attitudes of Jesus Christ during his ministry on earth. The researchers did the same for the Pharisees (10 total statements, five reflecting behaviors and five examining attitudes).

Kinnaman, president of Barna Group, directed the study. He commented on the creation of a “Christ-like” scale: “Our intent is to create some new discussion about the intangible aspects of following and representing Jesus. Obviously, survey research, by itself, cannot fully measure someone’s ‘Christ-likeness’ or ‘Pharisee-likeness.’ But the study is meant to identify baseline qualities of Jesus, like empathy, love, and a desire to share faith with others—or the resistance to such ideals in the form of self-focused hypocrisy. The statements are based on the biblical record given in the Gospels and in the Epistles and our team worked closely with a leading pastor, John Burke, to develop the survey questions.”

Fleshing Out Christ-likeness
To flesh out the objectives of the study, a nationwide, representative sample of Christians was asked to respond to 20 statements. They could rate their agreement on a four-point scale. The 10 research statements used to examine Christ-likeness include the following:

Actions like Jesus:

I listen to others to learn their story before telling them about my faith.
In recent years, I have influenced multiple people to consider following Christ.
I regularly choose to have meals with people with very different faith or morals from me.
I try to discover the needs of non-Christians rather than waiting for them to come to me.
I am personally spending time with non-believers to help them follow Jesus.
Attitudes like Jesus:

I see God-given value in every person, regardless of their past or present condition.
I believe God is for everyone.
I see God working in people’s lives, even when they are not following him.
It is more important to help people know God is for them than to make sure they know they are sinners.
I feel compassion for people who are not following God and doing immoral things.
The 10 statements used to assess self-righteousness (like the Pharisees), included the following research items:

Self-Righteous Actions:

I tell others the most important thing in my life is following God’s rules.
I don’t talk about my sins or struggles. That’s between me and God.
I try to avoid spending time with people who are openly gay or lesbian.
I like to point out those who do not have the right theology or doctrine.
I prefer to serve people who attend my church rather than those outside the church.
Self-Righteous Attitudes:

I find it hard to be friends with people who seem to constantly do the wrong things.
It’s not my responsibility to help people who won’t help themselves.
I feel grateful to be a Christian when I see other people’s failures and flaws.
I believe we should stand against those who are opposed to Christian values.
People who follow God’s rules are better than those who do not.

How Christ-like are Christians?
Using these 20 questions as the basis of analysis, the researchers created an aggregate score for each individual and placed those results into one of four categories, or quadrants. (Further definition of the way these findings were analyzed is found later in this article.) The four categories include:

• Christ-like in action and attitude
• Christ-like in action, but not in attitude
• Christ-like in attitude, but not action
• Christ-like in neither

The findings reveal that most self-identified Christians in the U.S. are characterized by having the attitudes and actions researchers identified as Pharisaical. Just over half of the nation’s Christians—using the broadest definition of those who call themselves Christians—qualify for this category (51%). They tend to have attitudes and actions that are characterized by self-righteousness.

On the other end of the spectrum, 14% of today’s self-identified Christians—just one out of every seven Christians—seem to represent the actions and attitudes Barna researchers found to be consistent with those of Jesus.

In the middle are those who have some mix of action and attitude. About one-fifth of Christians are Christ-like in attitude, but often represent Pharisaical actions (21%). Another 14% of respondents tend to be defined as Christ-like in action, but seem to be motivated by self-righteous or hypocritical attitudes.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Thanks Dummy for being dumb enough to show your colors on this post.
You are not a Christian.
What are you?
What is your heritage?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

You are not a Christian-if you gotta ask you have no idea what being a Christian is.

I am: Non-hypocrite-human

My dad is from a Jewish family and my mother's family was Irish and Catholic. When they married they became protestant.

None of which is relevant.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

That is a good honest answer dummy Boy.
but - "None of which is relevant."

That is the subject here.

Did you read the article you commented on?
Do you consider yourself Jew,Catholic,Protestant, Non denominational Christian, or are you now a non-believer?

Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees

http://israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Pharisees.htm

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, one of the leading authorities on Judaism asserted:

"Parseeism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name...THE SPIRIT OF THE ANCIENT PHARISEE SURVIVES UNALTERED."

In a serially produced installment of a best-seller by Jewish author Herman Wouk, we find the heading "The Talmudic Heart's Blood of the Jewish Faith." He says:

"The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe, whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed or merely spasmodic sentimentalists, we follow the Talmud. It is our Common Law!"

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Yup, that's why I posted the article I posted. Interesting stuff, eh?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Do you consider yourself Jew,Catholic,Protestant, Non denominational Christian, or are you now a non-believer?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I don't know...honestly, I don't know.....I'm not sure what I have evolved into....except to question everything and let God sort it out.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Very Good!

A very little known historical coincidence -

King Saul, of the tribe of Benjamin hunted and tried to kill, the shepherd and future king, David who was of the tribe of Judah.

Several hundred years later, Saul of Tarsus, of the tribe of Benjamin, hunted and tried to kill, followers of Jesus, son of David of the tribe of Judah.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

More good facts Theo. Thanks.
Some more info:

The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated)
by Preston James and Mike Harris
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/
Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books.
The present day KM knows that it cannot operate or exist without abject secrecy, and therefore has spent a lot of money having its history excised from the history books in order to prevent citizens of the World from learning about its “Evil beyond imagination”, that empowers this World’s largest Organized Crime Cabal. The authors of this article have done their best to resurrect this lost, secret history of the Khazarians and their large International Organized Crime Syndicate, best referred to as the Khazarian Mafia (KM) and make this history available to the World via the Internet, which is the new Gutenberg Press.
It has been exceedingly difficult to reconstruct this hidden secret history of the KM, so please excuse any minor inaccuracies or errors which are unintentional and are due to the difficulty in digging out the true history of Khazaria and its mafia. We have done the best we can to reconstruct it.