Pres. Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine
Jul 14, 2015 03:25:43 #
Between the economy/economic policy, healthcare, wars/foreign policy, civil rights, supreme court decisions.....Pres. Obama has come through with flying colors...working Congress in the process...The Right knows this and it k**ls them...... :thumbup:
Iran Nuclear Deal Is Reached After Long Negotiations
By DAVID E. SANGER and MICHAEL R. GORDONJULY 14, 2015
VIENNA Iran and a group of six nations led by the United States have agreed to a historic accord to significantly limit Tehrans nuclear ability for more than a decade in return for lifting international oil and financial sanctions against Iran, a senior Western diplomat involved in the negotiations said on Tuesday.
The deal culminates 20 months of negotiations on a deal that President Obama had long sought as the biggest diplomatic achievement of his presidency.
A formal announcement of the agreement was expected later on Tuesday, when foreign ministers from Iran and the six nations it has been negotiating with will meet at a United Nations complex here in Vienna. Catherine Ray, a spokeswoman for the European Union, said a final plenary meeting of the six nations the United States, Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia will take place at 10:30 a.m. in Vienna, followed by a news conference, but she provided no further details.
Secretary of State John Kerry, second from left, meets with foreign ministers and delegations from Germany, France, China, Britain, Russia and the European Union on Monday in Vienna.Inching Near an Iran Nuclear Deal, Negotiators Go SilentJULY 13, 2015
Metallic seals like this one have long been used to prevent unauthorized access to nuclear equipment. New electronic and fiber-optic seals beam back confirmation that they remain intact.Awaiting Iran Deal, Nuclear Sleuths Gather Sophisticated ToolsJULY 6, 2015
Diplomats have declined to provide details until Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, speak at that event. Mr. Obama is expected to make a public statement in Washington, beginning a long process to sell the deal to Congress and the American public.
But the Western diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing confidential talks, signaled that all of the main outstanding issues had been resolved, including the thorny question of how many years an embargo on conventional arms shipments into and out of Iran would remain in place.
The agreement and its annexes run more than 80 pages, Iranian officials say, outlining in painstaking detail how much nuclear fuel Iran can keep in the country for the next 15 years; what kind of research and development it can perform on centrifuges and other nuclear equipment; and the redesign of both a nuclear reactor and a deep-underground enrichment site that Israeli and American officials feared could be invulnerable to bombing.
But to strike the deal, Mr. Kerry and the other negotiators had to accept an understanding that essentially left in place most of Irans infrastructure at the countrys main nuclear sites, though much of it would be disassembled and put in storage. Iran is likely to cite that fact as evidence that it never gave in to the Wests demands that it dismantle its critical facilities.
Secretary of State John Kerry with foreign ministers and other delegates from the United States' negotiating partners in Vienna on Monday. Credit Pool photo by Carlos Barria
The agreement not to shutter Irans most advanced nuclear facilities is expected to be a focal point for critics in Congress, which now has 60 days to approve or reject the deal. Those critics have already complained that the deal being discussed would only delay the day when Iran would have the ability to build an atomic weapon.
The accord will be a political agreement, not a legally binding treaty.
Some restrictions limiting Irans program begin to phase out after 10 years. Then, after 15 years, Iran would be free to produce as much enriched uranium as it wanted. In theory, though, the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, to which Tehran is a signatory, would prevent it from taking the last steps to produce a weapon.
With the announcement of the accord, Mr. Obama has now made major strides toward fundamentally changing the American diplomatic relationships with three nations: Cuba, Iran and Myanmar. Of the three, Iran is the most strategically important, the only one with a nuclear program and still on the State Departments list of state sponsors of terrorism.
Although some provisions, including the arms embargo, are expected to be especially contentious in Congress, Mr. Obamas chances of ultimately prevailing are considered high. Even if the accord is v**ed down by one or both houses, he could veto that action, and he is likely to have the v**es he would need to prevail in an effort to override the veto. But he has told aides that for an accord as important as this one which he hopes will usher in a virtual truce with a country that has been a major American adversary for 35 years he wants to win a congressional endorsement.
Mr. Obama will also have to manage the breach with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and the leaders of Saudi Arabia and other Arab states who have warned against the deal, saying the relief of sanctions will ultimately empower the Iranians throughout the Middle East.
The announcement comes after years of sanctions and covert cyberattacks to disable Irans nuclear program, which Iranian leaders insist is only for peaceful purposes.
Mr. Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, then the secretary of state, began the effort to reach an agreement on the nuclear program by sending aides on secret missions starting in 2012 to meet Iranian diplomats and explore the opening of talks, enraging Israeli officials who had been left in the dark.
A preliminary accord struck in 2013 temporarily froze much of Irans program and rolled back the production of a kind of fuel that was closest to bomb grade. The ensuing negotiations have been repeatedly extended and became Mr. Kerrys single biggest mission. Once-rare American encounters with Iranian diplomats became routine. Along the way, Mr. Kerry has spent more hours with Mr. Zarif than with any other foreign minister.
Iran Nuclear Deal Is Reached After Long Negotiations
By DAVID E. SANGER and MICHAEL R. GORDONJULY 14, 2015
VIENNA Iran and a group of six nations led by the United States have agreed to a historic accord to significantly limit Tehrans nuclear ability for more than a decade in return for lifting international oil and financial sanctions against Iran, a senior Western diplomat involved in the negotiations said on Tuesday.
The deal culminates 20 months of negotiations on a deal that President Obama had long sought as the biggest diplomatic achievement of his presidency.
A formal announcement of the agreement was expected later on Tuesday, when foreign ministers from Iran and the six nations it has been negotiating with will meet at a United Nations complex here in Vienna. Catherine Ray, a spokeswoman for the European Union, said a final plenary meeting of the six nations the United States, Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia will take place at 10:30 a.m. in Vienna, followed by a news conference, but she provided no further details.
Secretary of State John Kerry, second from left, meets with foreign ministers and delegations from Germany, France, China, Britain, Russia and the European Union on Monday in Vienna.Inching Near an Iran Nuclear Deal, Negotiators Go SilentJULY 13, 2015
Metallic seals like this one have long been used to prevent unauthorized access to nuclear equipment. New electronic and fiber-optic seals beam back confirmation that they remain intact.Awaiting Iran Deal, Nuclear Sleuths Gather Sophisticated ToolsJULY 6, 2015
Diplomats have declined to provide details until Secretary of State John Kerry and his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, speak at that event. Mr. Obama is expected to make a public statement in Washington, beginning a long process to sell the deal to Congress and the American public.
But the Western diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was discussing confidential talks, signaled that all of the main outstanding issues had been resolved, including the thorny question of how many years an embargo on conventional arms shipments into and out of Iran would remain in place.
The agreement and its annexes run more than 80 pages, Iranian officials say, outlining in painstaking detail how much nuclear fuel Iran can keep in the country for the next 15 years; what kind of research and development it can perform on centrifuges and other nuclear equipment; and the redesign of both a nuclear reactor and a deep-underground enrichment site that Israeli and American officials feared could be invulnerable to bombing.
But to strike the deal, Mr. Kerry and the other negotiators had to accept an understanding that essentially left in place most of Irans infrastructure at the countrys main nuclear sites, though much of it would be disassembled and put in storage. Iran is likely to cite that fact as evidence that it never gave in to the Wests demands that it dismantle its critical facilities.
Secretary of State John Kerry with foreign ministers and other delegates from the United States' negotiating partners in Vienna on Monday. Credit Pool photo by Carlos Barria
The agreement not to shutter Irans most advanced nuclear facilities is expected to be a focal point for critics in Congress, which now has 60 days to approve or reject the deal. Those critics have already complained that the deal being discussed would only delay the day when Iran would have the ability to build an atomic weapon.
The accord will be a political agreement, not a legally binding treaty.
Some restrictions limiting Irans program begin to phase out after 10 years. Then, after 15 years, Iran would be free to produce as much enriched uranium as it wanted. In theory, though, the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, to which Tehran is a signatory, would prevent it from taking the last steps to produce a weapon.
With the announcement of the accord, Mr. Obama has now made major strides toward fundamentally changing the American diplomatic relationships with three nations: Cuba, Iran and Myanmar. Of the three, Iran is the most strategically important, the only one with a nuclear program and still on the State Departments list of state sponsors of terrorism.
Although some provisions, including the arms embargo, are expected to be especially contentious in Congress, Mr. Obamas chances of ultimately prevailing are considered high. Even if the accord is v**ed down by one or both houses, he could veto that action, and he is likely to have the v**es he would need to prevail in an effort to override the veto. But he has told aides that for an accord as important as this one which he hopes will usher in a virtual truce with a country that has been a major American adversary for 35 years he wants to win a congressional endorsement.
Mr. Obama will also have to manage the breach with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and the leaders of Saudi Arabia and other Arab states who have warned against the deal, saying the relief of sanctions will ultimately empower the Iranians throughout the Middle East.
The announcement comes after years of sanctions and covert cyberattacks to disable Irans nuclear program, which Iranian leaders insist is only for peaceful purposes.
Mr. Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, then the secretary of state, began the effort to reach an agreement on the nuclear program by sending aides on secret missions starting in 2012 to meet Iranian diplomats and explore the opening of talks, enraging Israeli officials who had been left in the dark.
A preliminary accord struck in 2013 temporarily froze much of Irans program and rolled back the production of a kind of fuel that was closest to bomb grade. The ensuing negotiations have been repeatedly extended and became Mr. Kerrys single biggest mission. Once-rare American encounters with Iranian diplomats became routine. Along the way, Mr. Kerry has spent more hours with Mr. Zarif than with any other foreign minister.
Jul 14, 2015 05:25:28 #
Jul 14, 2015 05:52:02 #
KHH1 wrote:
Between the economy/economic policy, healthcare, w... (show quote)
He is truly the scum of the earth.
Jul 14, 2015 06:01:53 #
Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine and everone gets a unicorn with a golden saddle to ride into the sunset, Give me a break and our health care will come down and yada,yada, yada, Really!!!!Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine :thumbdown:
Jul 14, 2015 06:44:57 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
Hemiman wrote:
He is truly the scum of the earth.
Still hurtin from your ass kickin Hemi?
Jul 14, 2015 07:26:36 #
reconreb wrote:
Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine and everone gets a unicorn with a golden saddle to ride into the sunset, Give me a break and our health care will come down and yada,yada, yada, Really!!!!Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine :thumbdown:
Barak Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm. If you repeat it to yourself one thousand times you can convince yourself he isn't a liar. If you repeat Obama's false legacy one thousand times your brain will be freshly Cloroxed. All you have to do then is starch your mouth and you are ready to march, cheer at rallies , and v**e.
Jul 14, 2015 07:38:26 #
Bad Bob wrote:
Still hurtin from your ass kickin Hemi?
Still kissing his butt Bob,I would think you would get s**k of running around with that brown nose of yours.
Jul 14, 2015 07:43:42 #
KHH1: You've been drinking the kool aide again. The Iranians have not kept a single promise in any of their agreements with us so far. Now Obama has given them time and MONEY. They will have the bomb and use it against Israel, the Israelis will pulverize them in retaliation and there will be a general war in the mid east.
Do you think we'll stay out of that one?
Our own economy is going to fail (to much welfare, to few taxpayers) and the welfare classes will rebel when their welfare checks fail to arrive. R**ts and general breakdown of society will ensue. The taxpayers (most of the center of the country) will then get tired of the ruckus and raise some of their own.
We will then have a military dictatorship, no welfare and a lot fewer people.
No joke; this is the history of the world. Look it up.
Civilizations rise and fall; general excess is always followed by the man on the white horse.
Do you think we'll stay out of that one?
Our own economy is going to fail (to much welfare, to few taxpayers) and the welfare classes will rebel when their welfare checks fail to arrive. R**ts and general breakdown of society will ensue. The taxpayers (most of the center of the country) will then get tired of the ruckus and raise some of their own.
We will then have a military dictatorship, no welfare and a lot fewer people.
No joke; this is the history of the world. Look it up.
Civilizations rise and fall; general excess is always followed by the man on the white horse.
Jul 14, 2015 08:14:25 #
KHH1 wrote:
Between the economy/economic policy, healthcare, w... (show quote)
Obama boot licker...Kibbles (KHH1) licks the boot of the absolute WORST president in American history!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Jul 14, 2015 08:44:57 #
"Between the economy/economic policy, healthcare, wars/foreign policy, civil rights, supreme court decisions.....Pres. Obama has come through with flying colors..."
Your mama must of played for the WNBA. She didn't drop you on your head when you were a baby. She slam dunked you on your head on a concrete half court, repeatedly.
Now I know why he can get away with forming a standing army, Why he can take us into Libya and butcher 130,000 of the ones he told America he had to save. How he gets away with murdering Americans with out due process. Your statement should get you tossed into an mental health clinic and given a 6 month observation at the least. Or better yet a lobotomy. If you only had some kind of grip on reality you could see just how mentally unfit you are.
I got some free time so let me waste it breaking down your incoherent rambling.
1. economy/economic policy: He is the only president who sent a budget to Congress that did not receive a single v**e. Another first, he lost America's triple A credit rating and it wasn't like he wasn't warned many times that with his habit of spending like a drunken sailor would cost him big but you know how arrogant and stupid he is.
2. healthcare, Again you must be totally delusional and in great need of professional mental health. No one I know has paid less or even the same than they did before the biggest unconstitutional, unamerican, unlawful and un needed law I won't obey. I read 90% of that treasonous act while you who doesn't have the basic intelligence to understand the Constitution expect anyone to take you serious as knowing anything about this obamanation bill the 'affordable' care act.
3.wars/foreign policy. Someone needs to slap some sense into you or if that won't wo0rk just slap you. It amazes me how so much stupid can be on one person. Have you ever heard of a country called Iraq? How bout Afghanistan,Libya, or Yemen? I didnt think so. Did you know that although obama miss lead you Egypt use to be an ally and other allies include Britain and Israel Maybe the next time you see that waste of good dirt, obama You can explain to him the difference between friend and foe.
Obama took credit of winning Iraq, Someone should clue in this clueless corn cob of what winning a war is about. All his so called winning a war has got him was convicted of ethic targeting, illegal detention, and genocide.
4. civil rights, supreme court decisions: Are you on some sort of medication that causes brain cells to die. I use to believe even an i***t gets one right every once in a while. You and the leader in his own mind have proven me wrong.
Since I fell sorry for ones as you and God knows you will never get a clue on your own clues I sell clues at my regular price of $7 a piece. For you I will practically be giving them to you at 3 for $25 or 4 for $50. To live in the lifestyle I am accustom those prices won't last long . So what are you waiting for friend?
Your mama must of played for the WNBA. She didn't drop you on your head when you were a baby. She slam dunked you on your head on a concrete half court, repeatedly.
Now I know why he can get away with forming a standing army, Why he can take us into Libya and butcher 130,000 of the ones he told America he had to save. How he gets away with murdering Americans with out due process. Your statement should get you tossed into an mental health clinic and given a 6 month observation at the least. Or better yet a lobotomy. If you only had some kind of grip on reality you could see just how mentally unfit you are.
I got some free time so let me waste it breaking down your incoherent rambling.
1. economy/economic policy: He is the only president who sent a budget to Congress that did not receive a single v**e. Another first, he lost America's triple A credit rating and it wasn't like he wasn't warned many times that with his habit of spending like a drunken sailor would cost him big but you know how arrogant and stupid he is.
2. healthcare, Again you must be totally delusional and in great need of professional mental health. No one I know has paid less or even the same than they did before the biggest unconstitutional, unamerican, unlawful and un needed law I won't obey. I read 90% of that treasonous act while you who doesn't have the basic intelligence to understand the Constitution expect anyone to take you serious as knowing anything about this obamanation bill the 'affordable' care act.
3.wars/foreign policy. Someone needs to slap some sense into you or if that won't wo0rk just slap you. It amazes me how so much stupid can be on one person. Have you ever heard of a country called Iraq? How bout Afghanistan,Libya, or Yemen? I didnt think so. Did you know that although obama miss lead you Egypt use to be an ally and other allies include Britain and Israel Maybe the next time you see that waste of good dirt, obama You can explain to him the difference between friend and foe.
Obama took credit of winning Iraq, Someone should clue in this clueless corn cob of what winning a war is about. All his so called winning a war has got him was convicted of ethic targeting, illegal detention, and genocide.
4. civil rights, supreme court decisions: Are you on some sort of medication that causes brain cells to die. I use to believe even an i***t gets one right every once in a while. You and the leader in his own mind have proven me wrong.
Since I fell sorry for ones as you and God knows you will never get a clue on your own clues I sell clues at my regular price of $7 a piece. For you I will practically be giving them to you at 3 for $25 or 4 for $50. To live in the lifestyle I am accustom those prices won't last long . So what are you waiting for friend?
Jul 14, 2015 08:51:51 #
KHH1 wrote:
Between the economy/economic policy, healthcare, w... (show quote)
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Of course it will be "just fine" with you because you are both a bit crazy. But for normal people, for our children and grandchildren, life will be hell until they get the hang of bowing down to oppression and total lack of privacy. I know you will enjoy wallowing in the wealth of those you have stolen from, and if karma is what I believe it to be, you will suffer greatly for it. I hope you sense my smile as I type this.
Jul 14, 2015 08:54:15 #
"He is truly the scum of the earth"
Are you talking about obama or kerry? No matter, I agree.
Are you talking about obama or kerry? No matter, I agree.
Jul 14, 2015 09:14:23 #
reconreb wrote:
Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine and everone gets a unicorn with a golden saddle to ride into the sunset, Give me a break and our health care will come down and yada,yada, yada, Really!!!!Obama's Legacy Will Be Just Fine :thumbdown:
scumbag obama's.....
Jul 14, 2015 09:16:18 #
Bad Bob wrote:
Still hurtin from your ass kickin Hemi?
Bad Bob's lover.....
Jul 14, 2015 09:19:13 #
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