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Aug 19, 2013 13:59:56   #
emarine
 
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot

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Aug 19, 2013 14:05:59   #
viet vet
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)


Well said I think there are a lot who feel the same way , your analogy of the frog was excellent

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Aug 19, 2013 14:37:59   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)


It seems not "mindless" to me at all.

The one item I would add to your list is the NDAA as it goes somewhat in hand with The Patriot Act.

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Aug 19, 2013 18:30:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)


Never, ever apologize for your core beliefs.

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Aug 19, 2013 21:09:45   #
viet vet
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Never, ever apologize for your core beliefs.


Old Gringo if you have ever said anything of more value than you just did it would have to come from the mouth of God, yes never apologise for your core values

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Aug 20, 2013 08:46:37   #
matnc816
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)
I agree with you 100%. I don't think you should apologize to anyone. It also seems the people who would find this offensive are the same people who continue to call us horrible names. NO apology for what you believe NONE. The political correct speak is what has gotten us to this place. Speak your mind as much as you can. I'm proud of you.

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Aug 20, 2013 08:52:14   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)


America was the "best nation on the planet", now, maybe not. What changed? Belief in core values is what is keeping the conflict going. If everyone had the same "core beliefs", everyone would work together. One person's "t***h" is another person's "falsehood". Your idea is quite laudable, but will never happen. I think everyone (not counting muslims) wants this country to be the "best", however, how we achieve that goal is part of the conflict. The other part is what constitutes the "best"? Is it where the government "takes care of everyone" from cradle to grave? Is it where everyone works hard and strives to be responsible for oneself? Should America "govern" itself based on our past success or should America be "governed" based on the beliefs and opinions of the rest of the world (including those that have never been a "success)? These questions and more call for an "opinion" from each and every "legal" citizen in America. And as we know, "opinions are like assh***s, everybody has one". Finding the "t***h" is what most honest people strive to do, but the "t***h" can be very "complicated" and "convoluted".

It would be nice if everyone had the same "core values", but we simply don't. We have to work to try to "mesh" these values into something that works for all, but that is almost impossible to do, given the sheer numbers of different values and beliefs. Only my opinion.

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Aug 20, 2013 08:57:56   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
snowbear37 wrote:
America was the "best nation on the planet", now, maybe not. What changed? Belief in core values is what is keeping the conflict going. If everyone had the same "core beliefs", everyone would work together. One person's "t***h" is another person's "falsehood". Your idea is quite laudable, but will never happen. I think everyone wants this country to be the "best", however, how we achieve that goal is part of the conflict. The other part is what constitutes the "best"? Is it where the government "takes care of everyone" from cradle to grave? Is it where everyone works hard and strives to be responsible for oneself? Should America "govern" itself based on our past success or should America be "governed" based on the beliefs and opinions of the rest of the world (including those that have never been a "success)? These questions and more call for an "opinion" from each and every "legal" citizen in America. And as we know, "opinions are like assh***s, everybody has one". Finding the "t***h" is what most honest people strive to do, but the "t***h" can be very "complicated" and "convoluted".

It would be nice if everyone had the same "core values", but we simply don't. We have to work to try to "mesh" these values into something that works for all, but that is almost impossible to do, given the sheer numbers of different values and beliefs. Muslims would consider this country to be the "best" if everyone followed sharia law and didn't recognize women on the same plane as men. Do we want that? I don't think so. So being the "best" is open to opinion. Only my opinion.
America b was /b the "best nation on the pl... (show quote)

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Aug 20, 2013 09:04:48   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
" All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water."

So which side do you suggest should capitulate its values to the other? If you never apologize for your values then there will always be division.

Example: Radical Islam wants to k**l you and at the same time you want to live. Where do you compromise.

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Aug 20, 2013 10:35:24   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
emarine wrote:
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs socialism...WE THE PEOPLE... A disinformed e*****rate....The Constitution....The Law... Tax...Freedom...The Patriot Act...Citizens United... The Supreme Court....The Tea Party...History Repeats itself...Technology vs Humanity...Religion.... Just some key words on another political web site? As Americans we all still enjoy our freedom of speech... Information...misinformation...disinformation...The t***h.... How do you form your opinions? As a people we must learn to work together or WE THE PEOPLE will fade from history. If you put a frog in water and slowly raise the temperature it will stay there until its dead. Eisenhower's farewell speech? How could have known? I have no desire to sway your opinion or your v**e, All I ask is to seek the t***h no matter how shocking or hard to find it is... All this left vs right crap is what's keeping America in hot water. Good luck to all...America still can be the best nation ever on the planet if we choose to and make it so. And I do apologize if this has offended any... Its just the mindless rant of a tired patriot
Red vs Blue.. Divide and conquer...Capitalism vs s... (show quote)


emarine: I to am a retired combat veteran - but you must understand the majority of Americans have been pumped full of sand by most powers in place for political gain. We had better work at the grass roots, including family and establish moral and principle in our thinking. If not revolution will take place and a culling will clean the land!

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Aug 21, 2013 19:32:15   #
emarine
 
The Industrial Military complex. War Profiteering,Treason, Iraq, The Constitution, WMDs, Cheney,Deceit, Halliburton, 1.7 trillion + 500 billion, What is the price for one American Soldier? Lobbyists, V**er suppression, gerrymandering, Fraud, Bribery , Profits before people, Are Corporations People? Citizens United & The Supreme court? Multi National Corporations ? The Patriot Act? National Debt ,Depression, Recession, Taxes, Class warfare, Budget surplus, The total sacking of America? Wall street, The Federal reserve..... How did we get here? :shock:

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Aug 21, 2013 19:55:49   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
emarine wrote:
The Industrial Military complex. War Profiteering,Treason, Iraq, The Constitution, WMDs, Cheney,Deceit, Halliburton, 1.7 trillion + 500 billion, What is the price for one American Soldier? Lobbyists, V**er suppression, gerrymandering, Fraud, Bribery , Profits before people, Are Corporations People? Citizens United & The Supreme court? Multi National Corporations ? The Patriot Act? National Debt ,Depression, Recession, Taxes, Class warfare, Budget surplus, The total sacking of America? Wall street, The Federal reserve..... How did we get here? :shock:
The Industrial Military complex. War Profiteering,... (show quote)


We got here through the benevolence of the 'Democrap' Party.

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Aug 21, 2013 21:58:00   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
We got here through the benevolence of the 'Democrap' Party.


your right Old Gringo ; They do this to get the v**e of the ilk of this country.

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