Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

The correct application of that is _
Matthew 5:45 "That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."

Luke 6:35 "But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil."





What the High priests did DAILY Jesus did ONCE
Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

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Nine reasons to adjust your thinking on the issue:
1)THE PSALMIST IDENTIFIES WHO IS "GOD THE LORD"
Psalm 85:8 I will hear what [Heb.=El Jehovah]
[Grk. = κυριος kurios ο ho` Θεος Theos] God the LORD
will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.

2)AS ALSO DOES ISAIAH
Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith [El Jehovah][Grk. = κυριος kurios
ο ho` Θεος Theos][kurios o` Theos] God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

3)Acts 2:36 IDENTIFIES GOD WHO MADE JESUS BOTH LORD AND CHRIST
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

4)Luke 2:26 IDENTIFIES "THE LORD'S CHRIST"
"And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen [τον Χριστον κυριου] the Lord's Christ."

Κυριου kuriou]
5)Luke 9:20 IDENTIFIES "THE CHRIST OF GOD"
"He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, [Τον Χριστον του Θεου] The Christ of The God."

It MUST BE AKNOWLEDGED every word of "The Christ Of The God" is singular in both the Greek and in the English translation. The significance of this singular fact, is
"Singular" is a reference to how many persons are in "THE GOD" and the definite article limits "God" to being all that is God; so, we have All that is The Christ identified as a possession, (not a third person of) of all that is The singular person God.

That is all that matters on the issue. It matters not how many times God uses a singular name for a multiplicity of persons, it will have no effect upon this issue.

6)Acts 4:26 IDENTIFIES "THE LORD AND HIS CHRIST"
"The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ."
κατα του Κυριου και κατα του Χριστου αυτου.

7)John 20:17 IDENTIFIES "THE LORD JESUS CHRIST'S GOD" AS "THE SAME GOD WE WORSHIP."
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

8)JESUS TELLS US WE ARE TO WORSHIP "THE FATHER" WHO AS GOD, IS "SPIRIT," THEN TELLS US THAT HE, JESUS, IS FLESH AND BONES AND "NOT SPIRIT."

John 4:23 IDENTIFIES "THE GOD TRUE WORSHIPPERS WILL WORSHIP"
"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him."

9) LUKE 24:39-40 IDENTIFIES WHO IS "SPIRIT" AND WHO IS FLESH
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet."

Trinitarians never acknowledge the God of the humble Hebrew Prophet, Jesus of Nazareth, but instead, elevate this Man to the status of equality with his Father.

THAT is certainly idolatry; but Christianity is not.

susanblange Loc: USA

I am Jewish by faith and I will never believe in Jesus. I will die this way. I think the real Messiah should come by October, 2016. The Jews also believe this, this fall or next fall. I was raised Christian but converted out 32 years ago. I have a major problem with a religion that forgives without repentance and atonement. Jesus is prophesied in the OT as the modern day idol of Israel.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

May I suggest -
You may be confusing the difference between one who has been wronged, and forgives the one who wronged him, who though forgiven by his victim, still must repent before God can forgive. And it was God who laid that parameter upon forgiveness. "Forgive, and ye will be forgiven..."

The one doing the wrong still has to repent and change his ways, before God forgives him. This is why Forgiveness in its strongest sense becomes important, as when Jesus forgave those who crucified Him. They still had to repent to be forgiven by God.



Jesus is never prophesied to be any kind of Idol. Just because some denominations like to make images and worship them does not mean scripture teaches it that way. It is simply their own form of idolatry.

susanblange Loc: USA

In order to be forgiven, we have to forgive God. God is not perfect. Psalm 119:96. "I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad". We forgive our fellow man only if they repent. We are also not to take vengeance or hold a grudge.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

The word translated "end" in your reference material simply means "boundary" which is considered to be a reference to "How far can it reach?". Like saying "I see where your property ends." It goes on to say "The result is thy commandment is exceeding broad" in the sense of "reaches everywhere." It is speaking of the reach of God's perfection, not the limits of it.

If the Hebrew really is saying God's perfection ended, it could not result in a far reaching commandment. The translation is erroneous.



That is not what Jesus said. He said -
Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.



Agreed!

susanblange Loc: USA

It is important to forgive people, but only if they repent. Forgiveness of God is required if we also want to be forgiven. God gets blamed for a lot of things including the sin of mankind. Isaiah 53:6 "...and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all". The Messiah, who is God incarnate, will be executed and made a lamb for a sin offering. Not a Passover lamb. Isaiah 53:7 "...he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter..." Isaiah 53:10 "...when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin..."

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Messiah was of the seed of Abraham, not the seed of God.

susanblange Loc: USA

Are you saying Jesus was not the son of God? Adam (Satan) is the only literal son of God. Satan is called the son of God in Job 1:6 and Job 2:1.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Do you know the difference between the Greek words " 'uios" and "sperma?"

The first one is "Son" and the second is "Seed." Which one did my post include?

"Jesus is the seed of Abraham, not the seed of God."

Which word do you find in my statement? It is spelled "S" "E" "E" "D" and is pronounced like "SEED."