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The myth of Liberal social justice...who gave women the right to v**e
Jul 3, 2015 01:30:57   #
JW
 
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territory who signed into law the first women’s suffrage act in the country and it was Democrats who tried to take the v**e away from women. It was a Republican governor and a Republican legislature that prevented the Democrat’s move to disenfranchise women.

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Some calculated that by giving women all these rights they would all gratefully register as Democrats and offset the numbers of African American men who were presumably Republican.

Others analyzing the situation further suggested that, on the premise Republican Governor Campbell would recognize this sly partisan tactic to stack the registered v**ers of Wyoming Territory against his party, he would be forced to veto it, an act that would make him wildly unpopular and ruin any future chance that Republicans would gain a majority....

With the stroke of his signature on December 10, 1869, Governor Campbell did for Wyoming Territory white women what the U.S. Congress and territories of Washington, Nebraska and Dakota had all failed to do for their female residents. He signed the bill, granting women the very first right to v**e in the United States....

It was also fast becoming Republican Territory. In the days before v**ers could chose their candidates by secret b****t, it was soon clear that most Wyoming women v**ed for the party of Lincoln. Alarmed, Democrats tried to take away their right to v**e in 1870 but by then, when Governor Campbell vetoed this proposal, women had elected enough Republicans to sustain his decision....
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You can read the whole story here http://carlanthonyonline.com/2013/09/01/the-scruffy-dudes-who-got-wyoming-women-the-first-v**e-got-forgot/


The 19th Amendment granting women the right to v**e nationally was steered through the process by Republicans.

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On January 10, 1918, in the midst of World War I, the House passed a constitutional amendment granting women the right to v**e by a count of 274 to 136. On October 1, 1918, after five days of debate, the U.S. Senate, failed to pass the amendment by a v**e of 62 to 34 (64.5% of the v**e).

Seven months later, the amendment was reintroduced in the House in the 66th Congress (1919–1921), which convened on March 4, 1919. House Suffrage Committee Chairman, James R. Mann, managed to get the Amendment through committee and to the house floor on May 21st and after two hours of debate it was passed by a v**e of 304 ayes to 89 nays. With 91% of Republicans v****g for the measure, the 2/3 rds was bested by 42 v**es.
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You can read the whole story here http://www.usconstitutionday.us/p/19th-amendment.html


You will discover that in virtually all cases, while legislation tends to include members from all parties, it has been consistently the Republicans who have been the majority moving civil rights forward and the Democrats who d**g their feet.

In case, as I have been told before, anyone should claim that the Republicans were the Liberals back then, I really have been told that, the party of Lincoln, the Republican party, was the direct beneficiary of the Whig party of which Lincoln had been a proud member. The Whig party then, just as the Republican party since then has always been the party supporting laws that make business the driver of American social and economic prosperity.

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Jul 3, 2015 02:04:50   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territory who signed into law the first women’s suffrage act in the country and it was Democrats who tried to take the v**e away from women. It was a Republican governor and a Republican legislature that prevented the Democrat’s move to disenfranchise women.



You can read the whole story here http://www.usconstitutionday.us/p/19th-amendment.html


You will discover that in virtually all cases, while legislation tends to include members from all parties, it has been consistently the Republicans who have been the majority moving civil rights forward and the Democrats who d**g their feet.

In case, as I have been told before, anyone should claim that the Republicans were the Liberals back then, I really have been told that, the party of Lincoln, the Republican party, was the direct beneficiary of the Whig party of which Lincoln had been a proud member. The Whig party then, just as the Republican party since then has always been the party supporting laws that make business the driver of American social and economic prosperity.
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Damn straight. Conservatives have always been progressive--whether it was freeing s***es, ending Jim Crow and John Burch, standing up for workers rights and unions, women's rights and equal pay, or even now with their support for their gay brothers and sisters. While liberals were calling themselves "progressive" it was conservatives who really are. My congratulations to our conservative brothers--without them, and their support for progressive ideals, this country would absolutely suck....

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Jul 3, 2015 03:24:17   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
Damn straight. Conservatives have always been progressive--whether it was freeing s***es, ending Jim Crow and John Burch, standing up for workers rights and unions, women's rights and equal pay, or even now with their support for their gay brothers and sisters. While liberals were calling themselves "progressive" it was conservatives who really are. My congratulations to our conservative brothers--without them, and their support for progressive ideals, this country would absolutely suck....
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That was just the first example, women's rights. There are more to come. We are long overdue for a reality check.

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Jul 3, 2015 03:55:19   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
That was just the first example, women's rights. There are more to come. We are long overdue for a reality check.

What, my list wasn't long enough? If not for conservative progressives women would still be expected to be at home barefoot and pregnant, b****s and minorities would be subservient to w****s, and this country would be a hell hole for anyone who wasn't a white liberal regressive who wanted nothing more than than to freeze us in 1776. I agree with you 100% JW--this country was saved by the conservative progressive. Without conservatives, this country would be going backwards and not and not showing the world the way forward. Thank god for progressive. Without them this country would be totally fucked...

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Jul 3, 2015 10:53:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JW wrote:
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territory who signed into law the first women’s suffrage act in the country and it was Democrats who tried to take the v**e away from women. It was a Republican governor and a Republican legislature that prevented the Democrat’s move to disenfranchise women.



You can read the whole story here http://www.usconstitutionday.us/p/19th-amendment.html


You will discover that in virtually all cases, while legislation tends to include members from all parties, it has been consistently the Republicans who have been the majority moving civil rights forward and the Democrats who d**g their feet.

In case, as I have been told before, anyone should claim that the Republicans were the Liberals back then, I really have been told that, the party of Lincoln, the Republican party, was the direct beneficiary of the Whig party of which Lincoln had been a proud member. The Whig party then, just as the Republican party since then has always been the party supporting laws that make business the driver of American social and economic prosperity.
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Does it matter who, or from what party, got something right? Not in the slightest, all that proves, is that both parties ARE capable of doing good work - if they can get over themselves AND the incessant need to promote their party - over the needs of the public.

All those regular folk who have been lead down that erroneous path of "my party or nothing", have contributed to the uselessness of partisanship. We have NO examples, in our history, of successful single party ventures or policies. All of our successes have been engineered by members of both major parties and independents working TOGETHER.

This phenomena of demonizing the "other" party and convincing the rank and file members to follow suit, is what is driving this country to the brink. There will be, nor can there be, any successes experienced, by following this ridiculous "us or them" paradigm. History proves it, logic proves it and common sense proves the error of that type of thinking.

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Jul 3, 2015 11:03:51   #
JW
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Does it matter who, or from what party, got something right? Not in the slightest, all that proves, is that both parties ARE capable of doing good work - if they can get over themselves AND the incessant need to promote their party - over the needs of the public.

All those regular folk who have been lead down that erroneous path of "my party or nothing", have contributed to the uselessness of partisanship. We have NO examples, in our history, of successful single party ventures or policies. All of our successes have been engineered by members of both major parties and independents working TOGETHER.

This phenomena of demonizing the "other" party and convincing the rank and file members to follow suit, is what is driving this country to the brink. There will be, nor can there be, any successes experienced, by following this ridiculous "us or them" paradigm. History proves it, logic proves it and common sense proves the error of that type of thinking.
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Does it matter who got something right? No, but it matters when one side demands credit for everything good especially when they are not the active party in accomplishing it. It goes to the credibility of their current argument.

I get a kick out of Liberals tune change from 'aren't we wonderful' to 'it really doesn't matter' when confronted with the facts.

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Jul 3, 2015 16:15:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JW wrote:
Does it matter who got something right? No, but it matters when one side demands credit for everything good especially when they are not the active party in accomplishing it. It goes to the credibility of their current argument.

I get a kick out of Liberals tune change from 'aren't we wonderful' to 'it really doesn't matter' when confronted with the facts.


There's no monopoly on history rewrites. Both sides do it. Remember the EPA? Richard Nixon created that. Go figure.

See? Does it really matter that a Republican did that? Nope, what's done is done. History is just that - history - and has no importance to the present, except if we refuse to learn from it.

Past glories or past accomplishments mean very little, todays actions cannot be excused due to past successes. That means that whoever is running things in DC, has to be smart, correct and honorable TODAY - regardless of past performances.

To my mind, BOTH party's have fallen by the wayside and are no longer true to their roots. In any case, the only value to "see what we did before?", is a current effort to emulate that success. I'm still waiting to see such a thing.

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Jul 4, 2015 02:14:45   #
JW
 
lpnmajor wrote:
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Past glories or past accomplishments mean very little, todays actions cannot be excused due to past successes. That means that whoever is running things in DC, has to be smart, correct and honorable TODAY - regardless of past performances....


That is an astute observation but awfully self serving. When we examine past behavior, we are given a glimpse of the core of a person's being and we have the distance afforded by time to see those behaviors and their fruits dispassionately. What is happening now is lacking perspective and roiling with passion.

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Jul 4, 2015 09:45:39   #
DamnYANKEE
 
JW wrote:
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territory who signed into law the first women’s suffrage act in the country and it was Democrats who tried to take the v**e away from women. It was a Republican governor and a Republican legislature that prevented the Democrat’s move to disenfranchise women.



You can read the whole story here http://www.usconstitutionday.us/p/19th-amendment.html


You will discover that in virtually all cases, while legislation tends to include members from all parties, it has been consistently the Republicans who have been the majority moving civil rights forward and the Democrats who d**g their feet.

In case, as I have been told before, anyone should claim that the Republicans were the Liberals back then, I really have been told that, the party of Lincoln, the Republican party, was the direct beneficiary of the Whig party of which Lincoln had been a proud member. The Whig party then, just as the Republican party since then has always been the party supporting laws that make business the driver of American social and economic prosperity.
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territor... (show quote)


SHHHHH . Don't confuse the LIBTURD DEMS , with FACTS

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Jul 4, 2015 09:46:16   #
DamnYANKEE
 
JW wrote:
That was just the first example, women's rights. There are more to come. We are long overdue for a reality check.


And a REVOLUTION

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Jul 4, 2015 14:40:29   #
Virgil. Caine Loc: Braum's
 
T***h rears its ugly head and you squel like a pig with your head stuck under a gate with,

"Does it matter ...."

STFU! Yes it matters when you take credit for the good deeds of others that you have neither earned or merited.

That is called lying, dumb ass. Yes, it fucking matters.





lpnmajor wrote:
Does it matter who, or from what party, got something right? Not in the slightest, all that proves, is that both parties ARE capable of doing good work - if they can get over themselves AND the incessant need to promote their party - over the needs of the public.

All those regular folk who have been lead down that erroneous path of "my party or nothing", have contributed to the uselessness of partisanship. We have NO examples, in our history, of successful single party ventures or policies. All of our successes have been engineered by members of both major parties and independents working TOGETHER.

This phenomena of demonizing the "other" party and convincing the rank and file members to follow suit, is what is driving this country to the brink. There will be, nor can there be, any successes experienced, by following this ridiculous "us or them" paradigm. History proves it, logic proves it and common sense proves the error of that type of thinking.
Does it matter who, or from what party, got someth... (show quote)

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Jul 4, 2015 22:49:26   #
Gunny89 Loc: Southport, NC
 
JW wrote:
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territory who signed into law the first women’s suffrage act in the country and it was Democrats who tried to take the v**e away from women. It was a Republican governor and a Republican legislature that prevented the Democrat’s move to disenfranchise women.



You can read the whole story here http://www.usconstitutionday.us/p/19th-amendment.html


You will discover that in virtually all cases, while legislation tends to include members from all parties, it has been consistently the Republicans who have been the majority moving civil rights forward and the Democrats who d**g their feet.

In case, as I have been told before, anyone should claim that the Republicans were the Liberals back then, I really have been told that, the party of Lincoln, the Republican party, was the direct beneficiary of the Whig party of which Lincoln had been a proud member. The Whig party then, just as the Republican party since then has always been the party supporting laws that make business the driver of American social and economic prosperity.
It was the Republican governor of Wyoming territor... (show quote)


As history tells us. The Democrats have had a bad track record since the founding of their party. And the list is endless

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Jul 5, 2015 20:39:27   #
dwallace2015
 
Yes and the Damndocrats were also in favor of s***ery. Right on, Trump will kick their collective asses back to the dawn of man.

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