Nuremberg was unusual for its time and methods... Military and civilians were utilized from many country's... There were tons of German records available as proof of war crimes ... the bottom line is what does it matter if 4.5 million or 6.5 million were k**led or if 4 million were gassed and 2 million shot or vise versa... its still all war crimes ... if allowed the defense could have d**gged the trials out for decades over small discrepancies of large numbers ... the Germans tried to destroy as much evidence as they could toward the end of the war, for good reason...

You ignored my question about which book you cut and pasted from.
Is that because it would reveal you got it from obvious Z*****t propaganda?

Nuremberg was unusual in that it allowed the prosecution team to be 75% Jewish. That guaranteed the Germans would not get a fair trial and that what really happened would not be known to the world.

What happened to the tons of German records which you say prove German war crimes? Have they been archived on the internet or anywhere else? Or were they disposed of because they didn't say what the Z*****ts wanted them to say.

Nail in the coffin of Holocaust denial

Opening the archives "will help genuine researchers and act to the disadvantage of the deniers, who treat the Holocaust as if it were a vast, undocumented fantasy created after 1945," Taylor wrote in an e-mail to SPIEGEL ONLINE. "Every true and personal story, every fate solidly documented, represents a small nail in the coffin of Holocaust denial."

Pressure to open the archive had been mounting in recent years and a number of media reports, including a February story in the New York Times which accused the German government of blocking the opening of the archives and cast Germany in the bad guy role. Berlin vigorously denied the Times allegations and again cited concerns for the privacy of the individuals whose fates are filed away in the 25 kilometers of documents. Berlin also noted that the "Bonn Agreements," which were signed in 1955 and provide the legal framework for the administration of the archive, would have to be amended before anything could be done.

The German turn-around on the issue is of particular interest to historians who have long been doing battle with Germany's restrictive privacy laws. The opening of the archive, said Taylor, provides "refreshing evidence of a new pragmatism in Germany's attitude towards its past. The privacy laws in Germany are at best a little over-fastidious, at worst, downright obstructive."

Combating Holocaust Denial: Evidence of the Holocaust presented at Nuremberg

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The best known of the war crimes trials held after World War II was the trial of “major” German war criminals held in Nuremberg, Germany. Leading officials of the N**i regime were tried before the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at Nuremberg, before judges from Great Britain, France, the Soviet Union, and the United States. The IMT tried 22 Germans as major war criminals on charges of conspiracy, crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

But the Nuremberg trial did more than just try leading N**i officials in government, the armed forces, and the economy. Its lasting legacy included the deliberate assembly of a public record of the horrific crimes, including those of the Holocaust, committed by the Germans and their collaborators during World War II.

The American prosecutors at Nuremberg decided the best evidence against N**i war criminals was the record left by the N**i German state itself. They wanted to convict N**i war criminals with their own words. While the Germans destroyed some of the historical record at the end of the war and some German records were destroyed during the Allied bombing of German cities, Allied armies captured millions of documents during the conquest of Germany in 1945. Allied prosecutors submitted some 3,000 tons of records at the Nuremberg trial. More than a decade later, beginning in 1958, the United States National Archives, in collaboration with the American Historical Association, published 62 volumes of finding aids to the records captured by the US military at the end of the war. More than 30 further volumes were published before the end of the 20th century

The US Army made many significant finds of N**i booty and records, among them gold, currency, artworks, and documentation discovered on April 7, 1945, by engineers of the US 90th Infantry Division in the Kaiseroda Salt mine in Merkers, Germany. Millions of documents were captured at various locations, including records of the German Army High Command records; files from Krupp, Henschel, and other German industrial concerns; Luftwaffe (German air force) material; and records kept by Heinrich Himmler (the Chief of the German Police and Reich Leader of the SS), the German Foreign Office, and many others.

Even where central files had been destroyed, the Allies were able to some extent to reconstruct events and operations from the records they did secure. The Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) records, for example, were burned in the basement of its Prague regional headquarters but copies of many of RSHA records were found and collected from the files of local Gestapo (secret state police) offices across Germany. Captured German documents provided a record of the policies and actions of the N**i state. Both the Wannsee Conference Protocol, which documented the cooperation of various German state agencies in the SS-led Holocaust, and the Einsatzgruppen Reports, which documented the progress of the mobile k*****g units assigned, among other tasks, to k**l Jewish civilians during the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, were among the documents central to the Holocaust submitted at Nuremberg.

During the Nuremberg trial, N**i Germany's dedicated filming of itself was also turned into evidence of its crimes. From the earliest beginnings of the N**i Party in the 1920s, through the military invasions of World War II and graphic depictions of atrocities, German photographers and camera crews recorded (often proudly) what they accomplished in pursuit of their ideology. Toward the end of the war, teams of Allied military personnel worked tirelessly to locate, collect, and categorize this photographic and film record.

In addition to official photography and films produced at the behest of the N**i state, German soldiers and police took numerous photographs and film footage of German operations against Jews and other civilians. They documented the public humiliation of Jews, their deportation, mass murder, and confinement in concentration camps. This became powerful visual evidence of N**i war crimes submitted at Nuremberg. For example, Allied prosecutors submitted the so-called “Stroop Report,” which included as an appendix an album of photographs taken on the orders of SS and Police Leader Jürgen Stroop to document his destruction of the Warsaw ghetto uprising in spring 1943. According to Stroop's own calculations, his forces captured more than 55,000 Jews and of these, k**led at least 7,000 and sent 7,000 more to the Treblinka k*****g center.

Further visual documentation came from the US Army Signal Corps, which, in the course of photographing and filming American operations in World War II, also played a crucial role in documenting evidence of N**i atrocities and the Holocaust. Many of the early still and moving pictures of newly liberated N**i concentration camps were taken by Army photographers such as Arnold E. Samuelson and J Malan Heslop. A number of these images were later t***smitted to news agencies in the United States and other countries, where they helped to inform the world about the horrors of N**ism and the plight of concentration camp prisoners.

On November 29, 1945, the IMT prosecution introduced an hour-long film titled "The N**i Concentration Camps." When the lights came up in the Palace of Justice all assembled sat in silence. The human impact of this visual evidence was a turning point in the Nuremberg trial. It brought the Holocaust into the courtroom.

Eyewitness testimony from both perpetrators and survivors laid the foundation for much of what we know about the Holocaust, including details of the Auschwitz death machinery, atrocities committed by the Einsatzgruppen and other SS and police units, the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto, and the original statistical estimate of six million murdered Jews. Many people directly involved in the k*****g program died before the end of the war, but the Allies interrogated many of those who were still alive in pr********n for the trial. None of the perpetrators denied the Holocaust. Most just tried to deflect their responsibility for the k*****gs.

Three key perpetrators gave evidence directly related to the Holocaust: Hermann Göring, the highest official of the N**i state tried at Nuremberg, testified openly and frankly about the persecution of German Jews from the rise of the N**i party to power in 1933 until the outbreak of war in 1939; Otto Ohlendorf testified directly about his unit, Einsatzgruppe D, k*****g 90,000 Jews in the southern Ukraine in 1941; and the commandant of Auschwitz, Rudolf Hoess, testified frankly about the gassing of more than a million Jews at the Auschwitz-Birkenau k*****g center during the war. All three claimed that they carried out the legitimate orders of the state.

While the testimony of perpetrators is often chilling in its frankness about the k*****g program, testimony from survivors, then and today, is often the best antidote to Holocaust denial. Holocaust survivors directly experienced N**i genocidal policies. Their testimony is personal, immediate, and, for this reason, compelling. Survivors like Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier who testified at Nuremberg about her experiences at Auschwitz, and Elie Wiesel, who, after the war, wrote the book Night about his deportation from Hungarian-occupied T***sylvania to Auschwitz in 1944, provide the human element. Such witnesses convey what it felt like to be the target of genocide.

Taken together, the documents, photographs, film, and perpetrator and survivor testimony at postwar trials provided an inescapable and undeniable documentation of the Holocaust.

And it is evidence that a human being can survive without a brain. Even though the field of neurological science has no explanation for this bizarre condition, this is no conspiracy theory.

payne1000 doesn't give a flying flip about the t***h. Hell, we could ask the Edgar Casey Institute to arrange for payne to hold a seance with the ghosts of say a dozen or so of the primary architects and players of the "Final Solution"---Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Heydrich, Eichmann, Mengele, Stangl, Kaltenbrunner, Jeckeln, Kramer, even the "Beast of Bergen-Belsen", Irma Grese and “The B***h of Buchenwald,” Ilse Koch.

payne1000 could then get some edification on how the real Jew h**ers manifest their anti-Semitism. They sure as hell didn't sit in front of computers and take big stinking sh!ts on an internet forum. No sir, by God, these creatures went out there and "expressed" themselves. payne could learn how the pros did it.