It's not surprising Ben Carson is a Republican
Jun 29, 2015 14:56:02 #
By Paige Winfield Cunningham | June 29, 2015 | 12:01 am
Ben Carson is a black Marylander who grew up in poverty, making him a rather atypical Republican...
It's not strange Ben Carson chose to become a Republican, considering his profession.
Carson is a black Marylander who grew up in poverty, making him a rather atypical Republican seeking the White House in 2016. But as a celebrated neurosurgeon, his political views are right on par with many in the field.
As a group, brain surgeons sit to the political Right in a medical profession that has increasingly shifted to the Left over the last few decades. While pediatricians, internists, psychiatrists and many other types of doctors overwhelmingly support Democrats, neurosurgeons are far more likely to v**e Republican and give to GOP candidates.
For every obstetrician-gynecologist who is a Republican, there are two who are Democrats, according to research by Verdant Labs, which recently surveyed political views for dozens of professions. Family physicians are Democrats by a ratio of three to one.
But when it comes to neurosurgeons, two out of every three side with Republicans, according to Verdant. Neurosurgeons contributed seven times to Republicans what they gave to Democrats last year, according to Opensecrets.org.
That means that Carson has lots of colleagues solidly behind him.
"Neurosurgeons in general have a more libertarian bent or a leaning toward limited government and conservative principles in general," said John Wilson, a neurosurgeon at Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center. "I think many of the things Ben Carson is standing up for and running for are feelings many neurosurgeons have."
Until two years ago, Carson was known primarily as a top surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital, where he served as head of pediatric surgery and famously led a team that successfully separated two conjoined twins in the 1980s.
But Carson has built a political profile after speaking alongside President Obama at the 2013 National Prayer Breakfast and criticizing his healthcare law. He is considered a long shot for the presidency but has recently ascended in polls, including one this month by Monmouth University showing him leading the pack of more than a dozen GOP candidates.
He's been keeping his friends close, addressing the American Association of Neurological Surgeons at its annual conference in May, the day before he announced his p**********l bid. The group was the first major medical association to oppose the Affordable Care Act, setting it apart from the majority of health trade groups. The group's political action committee doesn't give to p**********l candidates, but nonetheless applauded his run.
"We're very proud and enthusiastic that Dr. Carson has decided to take this important step," said Katie Orrico, a lobbyist for the group.
Physicians have dramatically increased their political giving over the last two decades, and it has shifted from Republican to Democrats, according to a research letter published in April in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
Much of that shift was led by medical specialties, including surgery. Surgeons contributed 33 percent more to Republicans than did pediatricians in 1992 but the gap widened to 48 percent in 2012, according to the letter.
The trend is partly driven by the characteristics of neurosurgery itself, where men dominate and salaries are among the highest of any in the medical profession. Among doctors overall, 24 percent of females contributed to Republicans in the 2011-2012 e******n cycle while 52 percent of men contributed to the GOP.
The trend is true among neurosurgeons too: 71 percent of men gave to Republicans compared with 48 percent of women. And only about 7 percent of about 3,300 board-certified neurosurgeons in the U.S. are women, according to the neurosurgeons association.
Earnings play a big role in how doctors v**e, too. The JAMA letter found that the percentage of physicians contributing to Republicans within each specialty was almost perfectly correlated to average earnings.
But ask surgeons to explain the difference, and they also point to traits often found among members of their profession, such as independence, pragmatism and efficiency.
"Fundamentally, the personality of the neurosurgeon is 'just do it, don't get in my way,' " Orrico said. "The political party that wants to try and remove barriers by and large is the Republican Party."
Robert Harbaugh, past president of neurosurgeons association, speculates that the "individualistic nature" of surgeons and other specialists makes them more sympathetic to conservative views, whereas doctors in a more collaborative profession might tend toward liberal viewpoints.
While general practitioners must frequently coordinate patient care with other doctors, often responding to chronic problems, surgeons generally see patients when they're facing a serious illness and need specific, immediate treatment, he said.
"I think the same type of personality traits that would lead someone to that kind of specialty might also lead them to a more conservative political viewpoint," Harbaugh said.
Ben Carson is a black Marylander who grew up in poverty, making him a rather atypical Republican...
It's not strange Ben Carson chose to become a Republican, considering his profession.
Carson is a black Marylander who grew up in poverty, making him a rather atypical Republican seeking the White House in 2016. But as a celebrated neurosurgeon, his political views are right on par with many in the field.
As a group, brain surgeons sit to the political Right in a medical profession that has increasingly shifted to the Left over the last few decades. While pediatricians, internists, psychiatrists and many other types of doctors overwhelmingly support Democrats, neurosurgeons are far more likely to v**e Republican and give to GOP candidates.
For every obstetrician-gynecologist who is a Republican, there are two who are Democrats, according to research by Verdant Labs, which recently surveyed political views for dozens of professions. Family physicians are Democrats by a ratio of three to one.
But when it comes to neurosurgeons, two out of every three side with Republicans, according to Verdant. Neurosurgeons contributed seven times to Republicans what they gave to Democrats last year, according to Opensecrets.org.
That means that Carson has lots of colleagues solidly behind him.
"Neurosurgeons in general have a more libertarian bent or a leaning toward limited government and conservative principles in general," said John Wilson, a neurosurgeon at Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center. "I think many of the things Ben Carson is standing up for and running for are feelings many neurosurgeons have."
Until two years ago, Carson was known primarily as a top surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital, where he served as head of pediatric surgery and famously led a team that successfully separated two conjoined twins in the 1980s.
But Carson has built a political profile after speaking alongside President Obama at the 2013 National Prayer Breakfast and criticizing his healthcare law. He is considered a long shot for the presidency but has recently ascended in polls, including one this month by Monmouth University showing him leading the pack of more than a dozen GOP candidates.
He's been keeping his friends close, addressing the American Association of Neurological Surgeons at its annual conference in May, the day before he announced his p**********l bid. The group was the first major medical association to oppose the Affordable Care Act, setting it apart from the majority of health trade groups. The group's political action committee doesn't give to p**********l candidates, but nonetheless applauded his run.
"We're very proud and enthusiastic that Dr. Carson has decided to take this important step," said Katie Orrico, a lobbyist for the group.
Physicians have dramatically increased their political giving over the last two decades, and it has shifted from Republican to Democrats, according to a research letter published in April in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
Much of that shift was led by medical specialties, including surgery. Surgeons contributed 33 percent more to Republicans than did pediatricians in 1992 but the gap widened to 48 percent in 2012, according to the letter.
The trend is partly driven by the characteristics of neurosurgery itself, where men dominate and salaries are among the highest of any in the medical profession. Among doctors overall, 24 percent of females contributed to Republicans in the 2011-2012 e******n cycle while 52 percent of men contributed to the GOP.
The trend is true among neurosurgeons too: 71 percent of men gave to Republicans compared with 48 percent of women. And only about 7 percent of about 3,300 board-certified neurosurgeons in the U.S. are women, according to the neurosurgeons association.
Earnings play a big role in how doctors v**e, too. The JAMA letter found that the percentage of physicians contributing to Republicans within each specialty was almost perfectly correlated to average earnings.
But ask surgeons to explain the difference, and they also point to traits often found among members of their profession, such as independence, pragmatism and efficiency.
"Fundamentally, the personality of the neurosurgeon is 'just do it, don't get in my way,' " Orrico said. "The political party that wants to try and remove barriers by and large is the Republican Party."
Robert Harbaugh, past president of neurosurgeons association, speculates that the "individualistic nature" of surgeons and other specialists makes them more sympathetic to conservative views, whereas doctors in a more collaborative profession might tend toward liberal viewpoints.
While general practitioners must frequently coordinate patient care with other doctors, often responding to chronic problems, surgeons generally see patients when they're facing a serious illness and need specific, immediate treatment, he said.
"I think the same type of personality traits that would lead someone to that kind of specialty might also lead them to a more conservative political viewpoint," Harbaugh said.
Jun 29, 2015 15:06:42 #
I agree. He should be a Republican.
He's brilliant, and didn't need Affirmative Action to be successful.
He's at the top of his field without some white liberal patting him on the head and helping him out.
He's brilliant, and didn't need Affirmative Action to be successful.
He's at the top of his field without some white liberal patting him on the head and helping him out.
Jun 29, 2015 17:05:40 #
Super Dave wrote:
I agree. He should be a Republican.
He's brilliant, and didn't need Affirmative Action to be successful.
He's at the top of his field without some white liberal patting him on the head and helping him out.
He's brilliant, and didn't need Affirmative Action to be successful.
He's at the top of his field without some white liberal patting him on the head and helping him out.
Doctors overall are Dems...neurosurgeons are individualistic (selfish) so yes that fits...even you poor GOPers are selfish...always b***hing about your taxes while living and benefitting from the taxes of others.... :roll:
Jun 29, 2015 17:07:40 #
Heres what Lee wrote:
Interesting facts about Dr. Ben Carson, Conservative Icon:
1. raised by a single mother
2. raised in public housing
3. fed with food stamps.
4. supported with welfare was-dependent-on-government
5. kept healthy with medicaid
6. educated in public schools
7. got eyeglasses from state agency
8. benefited from affirmative action to enter college
9. used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school
10. benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school
11. med school paid for with grant from USPHS*
12. said: The disintegration of the family unit and the welfare state are enslaving African-Americans and ruining their futures.
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/startling-hypocrisy-conservative-icon-dr-ben-carson/
Interesting facts about Dr. Ben Carson, Conservative Icon:
1. raised by a single mother
2. raised in public housing
3. fed with food stamps.
4. supported with welfare was-dependent-on-government
5. kept healthy with medicaid
6. educated in public schools
7. got eyeglasses from state agency
8. benefited from affirmative action to enter college
9. used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school
10. benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school
11. med school paid for with grant from USPHS*
12. said: The disintegration of the family unit and the welfare state are enslaving African-Americans and ruining their futures.
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/startling-hypocrisy-conservative-icon-dr-ben-carson/
Jun 29, 2015 17:10:55 #
Ben Carson So Glad His Welfare Mom Wasnt Dependent On Government
by Doktor Zoom
May 23 2:15 pm 2014
Doctor Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon who thinks Obamacare is the worst thing since s***ery, went on The View Tuesday and explained how we can Save America: We have to help re-educate people about what America is, a turn of phrase surely that no wingnut would ever freak out about. Perhaps camps could even be provided for the purpose. And what you need to do to help people realize their dream is to free them from the governments neo-Marxist welfare teat. And what greater waste of human potential is there than the ens***ement of getting help with food and healthcare? Luckily Dr. Carson can explain for us why welfare and food stamps that helped him as a child were the good kind of welfare and food stamps, as opposed to the moocher 47 percent freeloader kind you get today.
When you rob someone of their incentive to go out there and improve themselves, you are not doing them any favors. When you take somebody and pat them on the head and say, There, there, you poor little thing. Let me give you housing subsidies, let me give you free health care because you cant do that. What would be much more empowering is to use our intellect and our resources to give those people a way up and out.
Its so true once you get on government assistance, your will to earn your own keep is sapped forever. Yr. Doktor Zoom was on unemployment once, and look at him now writing dick jokes for money. Or look at Dr. Ben Carson, who despite being born into poverty, was miraculously untainted by the government assistance that his mother received, as Reading is For Snobs points out: for some strange reason, the evil welfare system didnt seem to destroy the incentive for his own mother to go out and make things better for her and her family:
No doubt, Mother Carson deserves tremendous credit, but in the words of a political sound bite from the last p**********l e******n she didnt do it alone. Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could barely see. Not only that, in Gifted Hands we read this nugget: By the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she received nothing but food stamps. She couldnt have provided for us and kept up the house without that subsidy.
Now hold on just a darn second here. Carson got free Government Glasses, and his mom received government largesse well beyond food stamps, which were the last step that helped her become independent? Why, that sounds disturbingly neo-Marxist! Happily, a Politico profile explains the difference between Good Poors like Ben Carsons mother, and Lazy Takers like everyone who is ens***ed by todays big government programs that keep getting cut back year after year:
Its hard not to see Carsons own upbringing coming into view here. He grew up in meager surroundings in Detroit and Boston, in a family that made use of public assistance programs like food stamps. The culture was different then, Carson insists. I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts, he said. There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do.
You see, the chief difference is that Carsons mom felt appropriately ashamed of being poor, whereas no one today is publicly shamed enough. This is why its so very important to drug test welfare recipients and inspect their shopping carts for illicit crab legs. Back then, poor people (especially Ben Carsons mother) were better than they are now, because handwaving magic Great Society Obamacare free market good old days, just like its cool that Paul Ryan is a self-made man who supported himself with his fathers Social Security benefits that he earned on his own, and Craig T Nelson never got a handout from anyone when he was on welfare and food stamps:
It seems they just dont make poor people like they used to, thats the problem.
by Doktor Zoom
May 23 2:15 pm 2014
Doctor Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon who thinks Obamacare is the worst thing since s***ery, went on The View Tuesday and explained how we can Save America: We have to help re-educate people about what America is, a turn of phrase surely that no wingnut would ever freak out about. Perhaps camps could even be provided for the purpose. And what you need to do to help people realize their dream is to free them from the governments neo-Marxist welfare teat. And what greater waste of human potential is there than the ens***ement of getting help with food and healthcare? Luckily Dr. Carson can explain for us why welfare and food stamps that helped him as a child were the good kind of welfare and food stamps, as opposed to the moocher 47 percent freeloader kind you get today.
When you rob someone of their incentive to go out there and improve themselves, you are not doing them any favors. When you take somebody and pat them on the head and say, There, there, you poor little thing. Let me give you housing subsidies, let me give you free health care because you cant do that. What would be much more empowering is to use our intellect and our resources to give those people a way up and out.
Its so true once you get on government assistance, your will to earn your own keep is sapped forever. Yr. Doktor Zoom was on unemployment once, and look at him now writing dick jokes for money. Or look at Dr. Ben Carson, who despite being born into poverty, was miraculously untainted by the government assistance that his mother received, as Reading is For Snobs points out: for some strange reason, the evil welfare system didnt seem to destroy the incentive for his own mother to go out and make things better for her and her family:
No doubt, Mother Carson deserves tremendous credit, but in the words of a political sound bite from the last p**********l e******n she didnt do it alone. Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could barely see. Not only that, in Gifted Hands we read this nugget: By the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she received nothing but food stamps. She couldnt have provided for us and kept up the house without that subsidy.
Now hold on just a darn second here. Carson got free Government Glasses, and his mom received government largesse well beyond food stamps, which were the last step that helped her become independent? Why, that sounds disturbingly neo-Marxist! Happily, a Politico profile explains the difference between Good Poors like Ben Carsons mother, and Lazy Takers like everyone who is ens***ed by todays big government programs that keep getting cut back year after year:
Its hard not to see Carsons own upbringing coming into view here. He grew up in meager surroundings in Detroit and Boston, in a family that made use of public assistance programs like food stamps. The culture was different then, Carson insists. I think there was a time when people were not proud of taking handouts, he said. There were more people who did have that drive and determination. You do what you have to do.
You see, the chief difference is that Carsons mom felt appropriately ashamed of being poor, whereas no one today is publicly shamed enough. This is why its so very important to drug test welfare recipients and inspect their shopping carts for illicit crab legs. Back then, poor people (especially Ben Carsons mother) were better than they are now, because handwaving magic Great Society Obamacare free market good old days, just like its cool that Paul Ryan is a self-made man who supported himself with his fathers Social Security benefits that he earned on his own, and Craig T Nelson never got a handout from anyone when he was on welfare and food stamps:
It seems they just dont make poor people like they used to, thats the problem.
Jun 30, 2015 09:24:29 #
KHH1 wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.Doctors overall are Dems...neurosurgeons are individualistic (selfish) so yes that fits...even you poor GOPers are selfish...always b***hing about your taxes while living and benefitting from the taxes of others.... :roll:
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Jun 30, 2015 16:25:40 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Jun 30, 2015 16:51:06 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Jun 30, 2015 16:57:54 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
yeah..the AMA is corrupt because you declared it as such........ :roll: :roll: :roll:
Jun 30, 2015 17:00:11 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
I'm everybody's equal and no one's superior although society would view it differently...but only a white boy with half of the challenges I have faced who has not traveled half of my road could say I am unequal...hilarious..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jun 30, 2015 17:01:35 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
So I guess w****s get to declare who are their equals and who is not, correct? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jun 30, 2015 17:11:41 #
Super Dave wrote:
The AMA is a corrupt, therefore Democrat leaning org, but you shouldn't slander all doctors because of it.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
Actually, Ben Carson, unlike your masters Hillary and Obama, quite generous, as Republicans tend to be.
But you're just jealous of him because he's equal to w****s and you're not.
you means i'se done got the title of Dr. at a's yung age and I can't be yo equil? haha............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jul 1, 2015 01:39:28 #
KHH1 wrote:
you means i'se done got the title of Dr. at a's yung age and I can't be yo equil? haha............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No, yo not a Dr. yus a Rev. likes the rest of yo kind., but we all equil in the eyes of God. Have a blessed day.
Jul 1, 2015 03:31:49 #
stymie wrote:
No, yo not a Dr. yus a Rev. likes the rest of yo kind., but we all equil in the eyes of God. Have a blessed day.
yeah..i like muthaphuckahs who really think i'm that easy to size up with some intellectually lazy azz, hillbilly traiier cracka, "your kind" bullschit language...you daughter-loving yokels are a hoot....I swear!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jul 1, 2015 14:36:55 #
KHH1 wrote:
Have you noticed that the more angry you get the more you sound like Justin Bieber?yeah..i like muthaphuckahs who really think i'm that easy to size up with some intellectually lazy azz, hillbilly traiier cracka, "your kind" bullschit language...you daughter-loving yokels are a hoot....I swear!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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