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Jun 27, 2015 23:00:07   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I really think they can establish all these things in their by laws and then enforce them. Of course, gays will continue to try to push themselves off on the churches but maybe someone will have to show the Court what it may have begun.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/23330/%EF%BB%BFfive-things-churches-should-immediately-do-to-protect-themselves-from-the-supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-law/

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Jun 27, 2015 23:15:21   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
oldroy wrote:
I really think they can establish all these things in their by laws and then enforce them. Of course, gays will continue to try to push themselves off on the churches but maybe someone will have to show the Court what it may have begun.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/23330/%EF%BB%BFfive-things-churches-should-immediately-do-to-protect-themselves-from-the-supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-law/


Quite possibly, you are right.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:30:49   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Unclet wrote:
Quite possibly, you are right.


We need to see what the SC will do with something like this and I am sure they may just back off.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:36:45   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
oldroy wrote:
We need to see what the SC will do with something like this and I am sure they may just back off.


Wishful thinking in my opinion, but there is always hope. I fear, it is just going keep festering and eventually erupt. Mostly because they will just keep pushing for more and more acceptance. Affirmative action for Gays is on our horizon.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:46:27   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Unclet wrote:
Wishful thinking in my opinion, but there is always hope. I fear, it is just going keep festering and eventually erupt. Mostly because they will just keep pushing for more and more acceptance. Affirmative action for Gays is on our horizon.


When affirmative action didn't work for b****s don't you think the left leaners may back off. I sure hope so and I have read today that many black clergy have refused to be pushed around on same sex marriage.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:49:09   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
What's going on here with these Supreme Court Decisions?
Read these excerpts from two separate articles on Dr. Paul Church and the gay marriage issue:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/leading-boston-hospital-fires-doctor-for-raising-concerns-about-health-risk
Leading U.S. hospital fires doctor for raising concerns about health risks of gay sex
"Urologist Dr. Paul Church, a 65-year-old grandfather of 6, was expelled from Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (BIDMC) in Boston, Massachusetts..
Church said he has never discriminated against any group of people. He has only raised evidence-based concerns with his colleagues about certain sexual behaviors and practices known to be associated with high rates of infection and disease because of his care for people and for their health.
'The data comes from credible sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and shows that [skyrocketing rates of sexually t***smitted diseases] is primarily a result of men who have sex with men and those who engage in anal intercourse. The latest statistics that CDC has is that men who have sex with men account for two-thirds of new infection of HIV and that they are the only group where syphilis is on the increase.'
'The point is that [homosexual practices and behaviors] are not harmless. There are considerable negative medical consequences [when engaging in these practices],' he said...."

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/doc-faces-boot-for-citing-gay-health-dangers/
"...Church, who also is a member of the Harvard Medical School Facility and has conducted life-saving research on diagnosing bladder and prostate cancer, told WND, “It is incredible to think they would be able to silence me and revoke my ability to be on the staff as a result of my raising valid health concerns over a risky lifestyle.”
He continued, 'This is almost a f*****t effort at mind control.'
The facts, he said, are on his side.
'Although it has declined over the past few decades, two-thirds of all new HIV/AIDS infections in the U.S. are the result of men having sex with men. Fifty percent of ‘gay’ men will be infected with HIV by age 50. Those numbers are out there and they are staggering,' he said.

But the facts that Church has used, from the Centers for Disease Control, appear to matter little in the case, he suggested...."

Here is a well accredited physician who has worked at this hospital for 30 years and volunteered service in Africa and other Third World nations to combat disease, and he is now being branded as a "bigot" and "politically incorrect" because he is warning the public of an unhealthy life style - which would also include many straight youths.

The meat of these two articles on the persecution of Dr. Paul Church is buried in the CDC statistics. If we have 2% of the US population being gay, mostly men, that would account for 6,000,000 homosexuals with half of them expected to have contracted AIDS.

So here is the question: Did the Supreme Court rule in gay marriage merely to shift the expense of this AIDS p******c away from the State SSI account and onto the private health insurance tab through insurance coverage for "married couples"?

This might also explan the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare Exchanges as fundable by both State and Federal governments. It is not our policy to persecute cripples, but how do we get the message out to love everybody and simultaneously abstain from sex?

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Jun 27, 2015 23:55:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
What's going on here with these Supreme Court Decisions?
Read these excerpts from two separate articles on Dr. Paul Church and the gay marriage issue:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/leading-boston-hospital-fires-doctor-for-raising-concerns-about-health-risk
Leading U.S. hospital fires doctor for raising concerns about health risks of gay sex
"Urologist Dr. Paul Church, a 65-year-old grandfather of 6, was expelled from Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (BIDMC) in Boston, Massachusetts..
Church said he has never discriminated against any group of people. He has only raised evidence-based concerns with his colleagues about certain sexual behaviors and practices known to be associated with high rates of infection and disease because of his care for people and for their health.
'The data comes from credible sources like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and shows that [skyrocketing rates of sexually t***smitted diseases] is primarily a result of men who have sex with men and those who engage in anal intercourse. The latest statistics that CDC has is that men who have sex with men account for two-thirds of new infection of HIV and that they are the only group where syphilis is on the increase.'
'The point is that [homosexual practices and behaviors] are not harmless. There are considerable negative medical consequences [when engaging in these practices],' he said...."

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/doc-faces-boot-for-citing-gay-health-dangers/
"...Church, who also is a member of the Harvard Medical School Facility and has conducted life-saving research on diagnosing bladder and prostate cancer, told WND, “It is incredible to think they would be able to silence me and revoke my ability to be on the staff as a result of my raising valid health concerns over a risky lifestyle.”
He continued, 'This is almost a f*****t effort at mind control.'
The facts, he said, are on his side.
'Although it has declined over the past few decades, two-thirds of all new HIV/AIDS infections in the U.S. are the result of men having sex with men. Fifty percent of ‘gay’ men will be infected with HIV by age 50. Those numbers are out there and they are staggering,' he said.

But the facts that Church has used, from the Centers for Disease Control, appear to matter little in the case, he suggested...."

Here is a well accredited physician who has worked at this hospital for 30 years and volunteered service in Africa and other Third World nations to combat disease, and he is now being branded as a "bigot" and "politically incorrect" because he is warning the public of an unhealthy life style - which would also include many straight youths.

The meat of these two articles on the persecution of Dr. Paul Church is burried in the CDC statistics. If we have 2% of the US poopulation being gay, mostly men, that would account for 6,000,000 homosexuals with half of them expected to have contracted AIDS.

So here is the question: Did the Supreme Court rule in gay marriage merely to shift the expense of this AIDS p******c away from the State SSI account and onto the the private health insusrance tab through insurance coverage for "married couples"?

This might also explan the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare Exchanges as fundable by both State and Federal governments. It is not our policy to persecute cripples, but how do we get the message out to love everybody and simultaneously abstain from sex?
What's going on here with these Supreme Court Deci... (show quote)


I have to wonder if the 4 Justices who v**ed the same way on those two cases may not be just what you said. Of course, two more had to v**e with them to get those decisions to come out as they did. Damn, if you are right then we have to know that Obama and his progressive crowd may well be doing what you suggest.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:55:38   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
oldroy wrote:
When affirmative action didn't work for b****s don't you think the left leaners may back off. I sure hope so and I have read today that many black clergy have refused to be pushed around on same sex marriage.


Roy, I think you are giving the left a lot of credit, first that they have the ability to learn. Second, that they are capable of independent thought. We already have established that, without their talking points, they are doomed to silence.

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Jun 27, 2015 23:58:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Unclet wrote:
Roy, I think you are giving the left a lot of credit, first that they have the ability to learn. Second, that they are capable of independent thought. We already have established that, without their talking points, they are doomed to silence.


Darned if I don't think you have hit the nail on the head here. I wonder if they will ever be able to win without appointing another Justice or two. I wonder who will be forced off the bench of be found dead someplace with a smoking gun near his head. At least the three women know that they are safe from that happening to them.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:03:11   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Unclet wrote:
Wishful thinking in my opinion, but there is always hope. I fear, it is just going keep festering and eventually erupt. Mostly because they will just keep pushing for more and more acceptance. Affirmative action for Gays is on our horizon.


We already have "affirmative action" for gays and straights alike. It's written in the Constitution: "equal protection under the law."

The problem is the redefinition of "marriage" which cannot be adhered to by the Church, Mosques, or Temples. How does this mesh with the First Amendment's protection of religious freedom and freedom of speech? This is going to be a bumpy ride.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:05:29   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
We already have "affirmative action" for gays and straights alike. It's written in the Constitution: "equal protection under the law."


But progs are using those words to guarantee that they have equal rights. Of course, most of them don't know what rights are.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:06:31   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
oldroy wrote:
Darned if I don't think you have hit the nail on the head here. I wonder if they will ever be able to win without appointing another Justice or two. I wonder who will be forced off the bench of be found dead someplace with a smoking gun near his head. At least the three women know that they are safe from that happening to them.


While I sincerely hope that doesn't happen, if push comes to shove. If term limits do not somehow become the law, I fear that spaces will be made by the most expedient means. I personally think the SCOTUS should be appointed by the people and not the politicians. At least one branch of the Gov't should be above politics, it certainly is not that way now.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:08:14   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
oldroy wrote:
But progs are using those words to guarantee that they have equal rights. Of course, most of them don't know what rights are.


Old Roy, we have all lost our Constitutional rights since the passage of the Patriot Act, the USAFREEDOM Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act.

These issues are going to be addressed in the upcoming p**********l e******n, and may even evolve into the rise of a Third Party.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:15:23   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Old Roy, we have all lost our Constitutional rights since the passage of the Patriot Act, the USAFREEDOM Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act.

These issues are going to be addressed in the upcoming p**********l e******n, and may even evolve into the rise of a Third Party.


We can always hope. I just pray they are more successful that the TP. Had high hopes for them, but they just fell right into line with the others with their hands out.

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Jun 28, 2015 00:15:59   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Unclet wrote:
While I sincerely hope that doesn't happen, if push comes to shove. If term limits do not somehow become the law, I fear that spaces will be made by the most expedient means. I personally think the SCOTUS should be appointed by the people and not the politicians. At least one branch of the Gov't should be above politics, it certainly is not that way now.


That's not going to solve the problem from their legislating from the hip or the bench. We need to exercise the constitutional power to impeach these judges who are usurping too much power. This private citizens can initiate, we do not need the action to originate in Congress.

We have a medical crisis on our hands in the gay community, and the best way to solve this crisis is through free markets by simply opening up interstate commerce and get the states out of regulating the health industry with artificially high policy costs and price fixing.

Yes, we can keep the "no-dropping" and "no exclusion of preexisting conditions" from Obamacare as a federal mandate, but beyond that, open up the market so we might shop the 1700 health insurance companies for a policy of our needs and free choice. Free markets work.

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