6/25/15 Obama has issued 19 secret P**********l directives, the most t***sparent Presidency ever
Jun 25, 2015 18:41:54 #
Here is a web site that most Americans don't know about, and you can check out the PPD, PSD, and EO directive issued and by which Presidency.
Remember that there is no Congressional, executive, or Judicial over-site on these P**********l decrees, they are the law of the land.
6/25/15 Obama has issued 19 secret directives
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/24/p**********l-policy-directives-form-secret-law/29235675/
WASHINGTON A one-digit correction to President Obama's directive on hostage policy Wednesday had the effect of disclosing the existence of a previously unknown and still-secret Obama order on national security.
The hostage policy was originally released Wednesday as a p**********l policy directive numbered PPD-29. When the White House corrected that number to PPD-30, it meant Obama had issued a secret directive as PPD-29 sometime in the past 17 months.
Obama signed PPD-28, an order on electronic eavesdropping in the wake of revelations by Edward Snowden, in January 2014.
So what is PPD-29? No one's talking. A spokesman for the National Security Council declined to comment of the existence of classified PPDs Wednesday.
USA TODAY Obama order clears way for private ransom payments http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/24/obama-hostage-policy-james-foley/29209777/
"The only reason we know about it is the sequential numbering of the directives, and realizing they skipped a few," said Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists, which tracks the directives. http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/
PPD-29 isn't the first to be tacitly acknowledged only by a missing number. Of the 30 PPDs issued by Obama, 19 have not been released. And for 11 of those, the White House has not disclosed even the subject of the order.
"It's not only the public that doesn't have copies. It's also Congress that doesn't have copies," Aftergood said. "It's a domain of largely unchecked p**********l authority. It doesn't mean it's bad, but it's lacking in independent oversight."
But they have the same legal force as an executive order, forming a body of largely secret law, said Harold Relyea, a political scientist who advised Congress on national security directives before retiring from the Congressional Research Service.
"The difference is that while executive orders are public by law they must be published in the Federal Register to be effective - PPDs are not," he said. "It is a kind of secret law. People have to obey it. But it's a directive that can allocate money, direct people or take a course of action."
USA TODAY Obama issues 'executive orders by another name' http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-p**********l-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/
What Obama calls PPDs have gone by different names by different presidents back to the Truman Administration. President George W. Bush called them National Security P**********l Directives (NPSDs).
President Clinton called them P**********l Decision Directives (PDDs). President Nixon called them National Security Decision Memoranda.
Wh**ever they're called, Obama issued 30 PPD, 11 PSD directives and 27 EO directives, issued 68 all totaled. Obama has been less prolific than his predecessors but we still have 17 more months before he leaves office. http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm
George W. Bush issued 66 such orders, plus 25 more Homeland Security P**********l Directives. President Reagan issued at least 325. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/17/president-obama-executive-memorandum-response-column/20533933/
Some, going back as far as the Lyndon Johnson administration, remain classified. They can involve subjects including the use of nuclear weapons, ballistic missile defenses, space policy, cybersecurity and even continuity plans for the federal government in the case of a large-scale disaster.
The secrecy makes it difficult to know entirely what changes Obama has made in the hostage policy. The directive issued Wednesday revoked a prior directive by President George W. Bush in 2002. But that directive, known as NSPD-12, remains secret.
"You would think that if there's a new policy it would be a simple matter to explain what the old policy was," Aftergood said.
And even though Obama released his directive, it incorporates a classified annex with additional instructions to executive branch agencies. These PPD and PSD orders could have far greater effects than previous presidents combined, thats why they are secret.
Remember that there is no Congressional, executive, or Judicial over-site on these P**********l decrees, they are the law of the land.
6/25/15 Obama has issued 19 secret directives
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/24/p**********l-policy-directives-form-secret-law/29235675/
WASHINGTON A one-digit correction to President Obama's directive on hostage policy Wednesday had the effect of disclosing the existence of a previously unknown and still-secret Obama order on national security.
The hostage policy was originally released Wednesday as a p**********l policy directive numbered PPD-29. When the White House corrected that number to PPD-30, it meant Obama had issued a secret directive as PPD-29 sometime in the past 17 months.
Obama signed PPD-28, an order on electronic eavesdropping in the wake of revelations by Edward Snowden, in January 2014.
So what is PPD-29? No one's talking. A spokesman for the National Security Council declined to comment of the existence of classified PPDs Wednesday.
USA TODAY Obama order clears way for private ransom payments http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/24/obama-hostage-policy-james-foley/29209777/
"The only reason we know about it is the sequential numbering of the directives, and realizing they skipped a few," said Steven Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists, which tracks the directives. http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/
PPD-29 isn't the first to be tacitly acknowledged only by a missing number. Of the 30 PPDs issued by Obama, 19 have not been released. And for 11 of those, the White House has not disclosed even the subject of the order.
"It's not only the public that doesn't have copies. It's also Congress that doesn't have copies," Aftergood said. "It's a domain of largely unchecked p**********l authority. It doesn't mean it's bad, but it's lacking in independent oversight."
But they have the same legal force as an executive order, forming a body of largely secret law, said Harold Relyea, a political scientist who advised Congress on national security directives before retiring from the Congressional Research Service.
"The difference is that while executive orders are public by law they must be published in the Federal Register to be effective - PPDs are not," he said. "It is a kind of secret law. People have to obey it. But it's a directive that can allocate money, direct people or take a course of action."
USA TODAY Obama issues 'executive orders by another name' http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-p**********l-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/
What Obama calls PPDs have gone by different names by different presidents back to the Truman Administration. President George W. Bush called them National Security P**********l Directives (NPSDs).
President Clinton called them P**********l Decision Directives (PDDs). President Nixon called them National Security Decision Memoranda.
Wh**ever they're called, Obama issued 30 PPD, 11 PSD directives and 27 EO directives, issued 68 all totaled. Obama has been less prolific than his predecessors but we still have 17 more months before he leaves office. http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm
George W. Bush issued 66 such orders, plus 25 more Homeland Security P**********l Directives. President Reagan issued at least 325. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/17/president-obama-executive-memorandum-response-column/20533933/
Some, going back as far as the Lyndon Johnson administration, remain classified. They can involve subjects including the use of nuclear weapons, ballistic missile defenses, space policy, cybersecurity and even continuity plans for the federal government in the case of a large-scale disaster.
The secrecy makes it difficult to know entirely what changes Obama has made in the hostage policy. The directive issued Wednesday revoked a prior directive by President George W. Bush in 2002. But that directive, known as NSPD-12, remains secret.
"You would think that if there's a new policy it would be a simple matter to explain what the old policy was," Aftergood said.
And even though Obama released his directive, it incorporates a classified annex with additional instructions to executive branch agencies. These PPD and PSD orders could have far greater effects than previous presidents combined, thats why they are secret.
Jun 25, 2015 21:09:57 #
Doc110 wrote:
Here is a web site that most Americans don't know ... (show quote)
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem. While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.
Jun 26, 2015 14:14:24 #
[quote=Marcus Johnson]
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
Is this what we can expect from you. You can do better than this. Your so boring and predictable.
You should be called the "MARGINAL-IST," or the "MINIMAL-IST" due to your demeanor, narcissistic nature and your lack of anti-intellectual thinking, your just a typical liberal, posting comments and replies lacking any substance objectivity and or facts to the discussion or the article-post.
Why are you so negative ? Ask that question to your self. . . . . . . . . . .
Your just a blow hard, egotist, grandstander, blabber, bull-s**t artist: who blusters and boasts in an unpleasant way and has strong opinions that other people dislike and boasts in an obnoxious or unpleasant way.
Your constantly telling you how much you are so superior and how great you are to the point, where it really annoys most OPP Readers.
Your opinions are always liberal democratic atheistic one sided arguments, which you lack objectivity and you always throw the curve ball, to put the article or opinions on the defensive.
You never add a well rounded view of a topic or article just a "MARGINALIST," or the "MINIMALIST" Liberal viewpoint.
Your so boring and predictable.
Your the King of the Democrat-Liberal-Progressive-Marginalist- Minimalists-Commenters on the OPP Website Posts.
Is this what we can always expect from you, in every one of your post thread comments.
"OHH , OHH, OBAMA GOOD" "DEMOCRATS GOOD" in a Neanderthal grunt demeanor type reply.
"OHH, OHH, "EVERYONE ELSE BAD," "REPUBLICANS BAD" "OHH , OHH, in a Neanderthal grunt demeanor type reply.
As usual, you did not understand the implication of the website, the types of secret Executive Orders or read the actual title of the secret laws that have been passed, by present and past presidents.
www.fas.org/ web site. Because of the Federation of American Scientists reporting and the nature and lack of governmental over-site, Americans citizens now can view the actual information, which is understandable for all readers, and hopefully for you ignorant, marcus.
Start viewing the world in a 360 degree's and not with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your mental liberal oppression.
Start viewing actual wording of the of these secret laws being passed:
a. Secret P**********l Executive Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
b. Secret PPD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html
c. Secret PSD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm
Obama is up to a total of 68 Executive Orders, PPD and PSD orders total so far. I can expect that there will be more.
These are secret laws that 99 % of Americans know nothing about.
Inform yourself and others, to the secret laws that are being implemented on America Citizens in this country.
And not with your knee-jerkreactions and lack of liberal objectivity.
"OHH , OHH, OBAMA GOOD" "DEMOCRATS GOOD" "OHH, OHH, "EVERYONE ELSE BAD," "REPUBLICANS BAD" "OHH , OHH.
You have to be the most one-sided "OBTUSE" person on the OPP Website forum. Naive and Stupid is no way to go through life. But in your case, this is what can we expect.
It's not the EO totals marcus, Its the actual implications of the Secret Laws that are being implemented
Any secret EO law implemented that is intended and implemented needs to be questioned by all American Citizens. Democrat, Independent or Republican. marcus you lack any objectivity or intellect.
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
Is this what we can expect from you. You can do better than this. Your so boring and predictable.
You should be called the "MARGINAL-IST," or the "MINIMAL-IST" due to your demeanor, narcissistic nature and your lack of anti-intellectual thinking, your just a typical liberal, posting comments and replies lacking any substance objectivity and or facts to the discussion or the article-post.
Why are you so negative ? Ask that question to your self. . . . . . . . . . .
Your just a blow hard, egotist, grandstander, blabber, bull-s**t artist: who blusters and boasts in an unpleasant way and has strong opinions that other people dislike and boasts in an obnoxious or unpleasant way.
Your constantly telling you how much you are so superior and how great you are to the point, where it really annoys most OPP Readers.
Your opinions are always liberal democratic atheistic one sided arguments, which you lack objectivity and you always throw the curve ball, to put the article or opinions on the defensive.
You never add a well rounded view of a topic or article just a "MARGINALIST," or the "MINIMALIST" Liberal viewpoint.
Your so boring and predictable.
Your the King of the Democrat-Liberal-Progressive-Marginalist- Minimalists-Commenters on the OPP Website Posts.
Is this what we can always expect from you, in every one of your post thread comments.
"OHH , OHH, OBAMA GOOD" "DEMOCRATS GOOD" in a Neanderthal grunt demeanor type reply.
"OHH, OHH, "EVERYONE ELSE BAD," "REPUBLICANS BAD" "OHH , OHH, in a Neanderthal grunt demeanor type reply.
As usual, you did not understand the implication of the website, the types of secret Executive Orders or read the actual title of the secret laws that have been passed, by present and past presidents.
www.fas.org/ web site. Because of the Federation of American Scientists reporting and the nature and lack of governmental over-site, Americans citizens now can view the actual information, which is understandable for all readers, and hopefully for you ignorant, marcus.
Start viewing the world in a 360 degree's and not with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your mental liberal oppression.
Start viewing actual wording of the of these secret laws being passed:
a. Secret P**********l Executive Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
b. Secret PPD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html
c. Secret PSD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm
Obama is up to a total of 68 Executive Orders, PPD and PSD orders total so far. I can expect that there will be more.
These are secret laws that 99 % of Americans know nothing about.
Inform yourself and others, to the secret laws that are being implemented on America Citizens in this country.
And not with your knee-jerkreactions and lack of liberal objectivity.
"OHH , OHH, OBAMA GOOD" "DEMOCRATS GOOD" "OHH, OHH, "EVERYONE ELSE BAD," "REPUBLICANS BAD" "OHH , OHH.
You have to be the most one-sided "OBTUSE" person on the OPP Website forum. Naive and Stupid is no way to go through life. But in your case, this is what can we expect.
It's not the EO totals marcus, Its the actual implications of the Secret Laws that are being implemented
Any secret EO law implemented that is intended and implemented needs to be questioned by all American Citizens. Democrat, Independent or Republican. marcus you lack any objectivity or intellect.
Jun 26, 2015 14:51:39 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem. While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.
The President is not supposed to be a king. I don't give a flying fart what political party the president belongs to HE IS NOT A KING.
Jun 26, 2015 14:52:40 #
[quote=Marcus Johnson]
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
So how is that Obama's most OPEN and T***SPARENT Administration working out for you. Obama has issued 19 secret P**********l directives, the most t***sparent Presidency ever.
The IRS Department erased thousands of backup tapes. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. To the Lois Learner Tea-Party scandal. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
IRS destroyed hard drives. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
State Department, destroy thousands of documents and emails. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, destroyed 60,000 emails. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Lisa Jackson served as the Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency, hiding separate email accounts and blackberry under Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Eric Holders, Fast and Ferrous scandal and contempt of Congress, and Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Eric Snowden and the NSA spying on all Americans, Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
This Obama Administration uses more secrecy laws and delay tactics by his political minions, they are filthy criminals, as the United States Government continues to sail into the morass of even more secret criminal activities as this post article states.
The Obama Administration have destroyed countless evidence and is using countless delay attics, so they won't serve any jail time.
That's why It's called OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. These officials just resign, with out any criminal prosecution and get full government pensions. Why ?
Meet the Unfaithful Departed: Meet The People Who Bailed On The Obama Administration
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-31/unfaithful-departed-meet-people-who-bailed-obama-administration
Oh by the way, Your Queen, Hillary and King Bill have a court date on January 20, 2016, for Federal [RICO] Racketeering Charges, FIOA Charges.
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/150324-filed%20Clinton%20RICO%20complaint.pdf
Her highness may pacing a 4 x 6 caged brick wall building shortly.
I guess it's just more politics as usual.
Instead of you agreeing that secret P**********l directives are wrong. And comment on politicians and agency officials that lack with Ethics, Accountability, Integrity Morality and T***sparency. e.g. The list could go on forever.
You condone this behavior by secret P**********l directives and do not speak against this hypocrisy in our government.
You only cite and look at past presidencies and spout off more fallacious arguments to win the argument, and never address the actual issue at hand.
ANYTHING DONE IN SECRET BY OUR GOVERNMENT, IS JUST THAT. DONE IN SECRET ! ! ! WHY ?
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
DO YOU FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE, . . . . . . . . . . . NEANDERTHAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hey take a good look at the failed Obama's Economic policy and GDP growth in the United States, if pitiful and laughable in trying to defend his U.S.economy growth and Rescission policy. Obama is a mediocre president at best.
If you want to debate, I found a Jewish recorded reference, of Jesus Christ in the Jewish Talmud book, which verifies his historical authenticity, a recorded entry of Joseph, Mary and Son called Jesus. http://www.torah.org/learning/mlife/LORch4-2b.html
Hmmm, Now why would the Jews record his name ?
So in all of your efforts being a DENIAL-IST "MARGINAL-IST," and "MINIMAL-IST" you come up short once again.
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
So how is that Obama's most OPEN and T***SPARENT Administration working out for you. Obama has issued 19 secret P**********l directives, the most t***sparent Presidency ever.
The IRS Department erased thousands of backup tapes. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. To the Lois Learner Tea-Party scandal. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
IRS destroyed hard drives. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
State Department, destroy thousands of documents and emails. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, destroyed 60,000 emails. Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Lisa Jackson served as the Administrator of the United States Environmental Protection Agency, hiding separate email accounts and blackberry under Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Eric Holders, Fast and Ferrous scandal and contempt of Congress, and Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Eric Snowden and the NSA spying on all Americans, Under Congressional Subpoena and FIOA Federal Laws. CRIMINAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
This Obama Administration uses more secrecy laws and delay tactics by his political minions, they are filthy criminals, as the United States Government continues to sail into the morass of even more secret criminal activities as this post article states.
The Obama Administration have destroyed countless evidence and is using countless delay attics, so they won't serve any jail time.
That's why It's called OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. These officials just resign, with out any criminal prosecution and get full government pensions. Why ?
Meet the Unfaithful Departed: Meet The People Who Bailed On The Obama Administration
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-31/unfaithful-departed-meet-people-who-bailed-obama-administration
Oh by the way, Your Queen, Hillary and King Bill have a court date on January 20, 2016, for Federal [RICO] Racketeering Charges, FIOA Charges.
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/150324-filed%20Clinton%20RICO%20complaint.pdf
Her highness may pacing a 4 x 6 caged brick wall building shortly.
I guess it's just more politics as usual.
Instead of you agreeing that secret P**********l directives are wrong. And comment on politicians and agency officials that lack with Ethics, Accountability, Integrity Morality and T***sparency. e.g. The list could go on forever.
You condone this behavior by secret P**********l directives and do not speak against this hypocrisy in our government.
You only cite and look at past presidencies and spout off more fallacious arguments to win the argument, and never address the actual issue at hand.
ANYTHING DONE IN SECRET BY OUR GOVERNMENT, IS JUST THAT. DONE IN SECRET ! ! ! WHY ?
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
DO YOU FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE, . . . . . . . . . . . NEANDERTHAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hey take a good look at the failed Obama's Economic policy and GDP growth in the United States, if pitiful and laughable in trying to defend his U.S.economy growth and Rescission policy. Obama is a mediocre president at best.
If you want to debate, I found a Jewish recorded reference, of Jesus Christ in the Jewish Talmud book, which verifies his historical authenticity, a recorded entry of Joseph, Mary and Son called Jesus. http://www.torah.org/learning/mlife/LORch4-2b.html
Hmmm, Now why would the Jews record his name ?
So in all of your efforts being a DENIAL-IST "MARGINAL-IST," and "MINIMAL-IST" you come up short once again.
Jun 26, 2015 14:57:09 #
[quote=Marcus Johnson]
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
Once again marcus, you spout off, with your mouth and your pea-size-brain, without even reading or understanding the article. It's time to unload on you.
Any Secret Government tyranny is actually more insidious and pervasive than might at first appear or perceived. You don't really understand what has been happening to this country since the American Revolution in 1776.
ANYTHING DONE IN SECRET BY OUR GOVERNMENT, IS JUST THAT. DONE IN SECRET ! ! ! WHY ?
ASK YOURSELF WHY ? WHY WAS IT DONE IN SECRET AND NOT DONE IN THE OPENNESS OF CONGRESS AND THROUGH PUBLIC DISCOURSE. WHY?
JUST LIKE THE TTP TRADE LEGISLATION, AND OBAMA'S SECRET FOREIGN NUCLEAR TREATY WITH THE IRANIANS. WHY ?
WHAT DOES THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAVE TO HIDE, BY SECRET LAWS. UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, OBAMA IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS, AND OUR CONGRESS HAS ACQUIESCED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK HIS EXECUTIVE RESPONSIBILITY. WHY ?
And you marcus johnson, you 'CONDONE" these secret, unlawful laws and illegal behavior's by our GOVERNMENT and by this PRESIDENT or any OTHER PRESIDENT. Why ?
Naive and Stupid is no way to go through life. But in your case.
You always paint a rose colored picture, then throw a curved ball remark, that undermines the message of a posted article or comment.
Who made you GOD of the OPP Website. Your as ignorant as they come with your little glib, one-line-remarks. Pure unadulterated audacity and stupidity.
Which in every case your comments that you provide are "Straw-Man and what a Red-Herring" fallacy comment-remark is and comments in almost all of your replies comments. WHY ?
That is exactly what a fallacy is.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes and distorted, or exaggerated and misrepresented the article-post of that position.
Your sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern marcus: Person A has position X.
Red Herring: in which an irrelevant topic is presented, in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic.
Post hoc: in which one event is said to be the cause of a later event simply because it occurred earlier.
A Slippery Slope: a person asserts that some event, must inevitably follow from another without any rational argument or demonstrable mechanism for the inevitability of the event in question.
marcus you don't realize that you follow into the trap of fallacious writing styles, and your lack of objective reasoning. Why ?
YOU LACK ANY OBJECTIVITY, OR ANY INTELLECTUAL THINKING CAPACITY, OR TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION OF A SECRET LAW, CALLED BY WH**EVER NAME, PPD, PSD, or a SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDER, BY THIS PRESIDENT OR ANY PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
DO YOU FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE, . . . . . . . . . . . NEANDERTHAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
So Obama has issued 16 "secret orders" and It's a problem ?
While Ronnie Reagan issues 325 and he was just doing his job?
Exactly what point are you trying to make?
This isn't even news worthy.[/quote]
Once again marcus, you spout off, with your mouth and your pea-size-brain, without even reading or understanding the article. It's time to unload on you.
Any Secret Government tyranny is actually more insidious and pervasive than might at first appear or perceived. You don't really understand what has been happening to this country since the American Revolution in 1776.
ANYTHING DONE IN SECRET BY OUR GOVERNMENT, IS JUST THAT. DONE IN SECRET ! ! ! WHY ?
ASK YOURSELF WHY ? WHY WAS IT DONE IN SECRET AND NOT DONE IN THE OPENNESS OF CONGRESS AND THROUGH PUBLIC DISCOURSE. WHY?
JUST LIKE THE TTP TRADE LEGISLATION, AND OBAMA'S SECRET FOREIGN NUCLEAR TREATY WITH THE IRANIANS. WHY ?
WHAT DOES THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAVE TO HIDE, BY SECRET LAWS. UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, OBAMA IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS, AND OUR CONGRESS HAS ACQUIESCED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK HIS EXECUTIVE RESPONSIBILITY. WHY ?
And you marcus johnson, you 'CONDONE" these secret, unlawful laws and illegal behavior's by our GOVERNMENT and by this PRESIDENT or any OTHER PRESIDENT. Why ?
Naive and Stupid is no way to go through life. But in your case.
You always paint a rose colored picture, then throw a curved ball remark, that undermines the message of a posted article or comment.
Who made you GOD of the OPP Website. Your as ignorant as they come with your little glib, one-line-remarks. Pure unadulterated audacity and stupidity.
Which in every case your comments that you provide are "Straw-Man and what a Red-Herring" fallacy comment-remark is and comments in almost all of your replies comments. WHY ?
That is exactly what a fallacy is.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes and distorted, or exaggerated and misrepresented the article-post of that position.
Your sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern marcus: Person A has position X.
Red Herring: in which an irrelevant topic is presented, in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic.
Post hoc: in which one event is said to be the cause of a later event simply because it occurred earlier.
A Slippery Slope: a person asserts that some event, must inevitably follow from another without any rational argument or demonstrable mechanism for the inevitability of the event in question.
marcus you don't realize that you follow into the trap of fallacious writing styles, and your lack of objective reasoning. Why ?
YOU LACK ANY OBJECTIVITY, OR ANY INTELLECTUAL THINKING CAPACITY, OR TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION OF A SECRET LAW, CALLED BY WH**EVER NAME, PPD, PSD, or a SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDER, BY THIS PRESIDENT OR ANY PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
DO YOU FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE, . . . . . . . . . . . NEANDERTHAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jun 26, 2015 15:00:40 #
Jun 26, 2015 15:01:13 #
boofhead wrote:
The President is not supposed to be a king. I don't give a flying fart what political party the president belongs to HE IS NOT A KING.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:38:04 #
Doc110 wrote:
/color br br br br Once again marcus, you spo... (show quote)
That was a whole lot of blah,blah,blah.
You lost it old man!
Jun 26, 2015 16:06:30 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
That was a whole lot of blah,blah,blah.
You lost it old man!
You lost it old man!
And the blind man sees, and the one who sees is blind.
[color=blue]YOU LACK ANY OBJECTIVITY, OR ANY INTELLECTUAL THINKING CAPACITY, OR TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION OF A SECRET LAW, CALLED BY WH**EVER NAME, PPD, PSD, or a SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDER, BY THIS PRESIDENT OR ANY PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
Useless Neanderthal. I could kick your ass any day of the week i***t.
Have you still not figured out how to use the OPP Tags, Useless Neanderthal. or are you still computer challenged ? LOL and still henpeck at the keyboard.
Jun 26, 2015 17:36:45 #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
That was a whole lot of blah,blah,blah.
You lost it old man!
You lost it old man!
NO MATER WHICH PRESIDENT, DOES THE PASSING OF THESE SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDERS. IT"S WRONG.
And you approve and Condone Obama's 19 secret P**********l directives.
You must be the stupidest American on this OPP website.
To condone and approve his secretive actions or any previous secretive P**********l Law.
DO YOU FINALLY GET THE MESSAGE, . . . . . . . . . . . NEANDERTHAL. . . .
Your just full of compost and crap in your Brain you must be totally liberal delusional to the core.
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