RETW Loc: Washington

H. B. 3200 ==== Obama Care

Just a few points You may want to consider

76 and over:
If you need to go to the hospital.
You must be admitted by your primary Physician, in order for Medicare to pay for it. If your admitted by an emergency room doctor, it is treated as outpatient care, where hospital cost are not covered.
At age 76 when you need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment.
Page 50/section 1521
This bill will provide insurance, to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59:
The Government will have real-time access, to an individuals bank account. And will have the authority to make electronic fund t***sfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164
H.B. 3200 will be subsidized by the government for all union members, union retirees, and for community organizations. Such as ( Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now)
(( ACORN ))
Page 203/line 14-15:
The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.
Page 241 and 253:
Doctors will all be paid the same, regardless of there specialty. The government will set all doctors fees.
Page 272/section 1145:
Cancer hospitals will ration care according to the patient’s age.
Page 319 and 321:
The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion, however, communities may petition for an exception.
Page 425, line 4-12:
The government will, mandate advance-care planning consultations. Theo’s on Social Security, will be required to attend an (end of life planning seminar every five years). (Death counseling)
Page 429/line 13-15
The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
And it is specifically stated. This bill H.B. 3200 will not apply to members of Congress. :hunf: :hunf: :hunf:

RETW

OffGrid9 Loc: off-grid, down in a canyon, mostly

Hey. STOP IT. This is really stupid. How many times do we have to go through this.
1. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN "H.B." The House v**es on Resolutions, not BILLS, so anything coming out of the House is an H.R., not an H.B.
2. H.R. 3200 was a preliminary version of the health care fiasco. The one that eventually became the basis for Obamacare was H.R. 3590.
3. Almost all of the claims in this stupid list are out-and-out lies, or gross distortions, even if you go back and look at the (failed) H.R. 3200. A good example is the final item (which I left in the quoted excerpt, above). Obamacare DOES apply to Senators and Congressmen and their staffs...why do you think they have been scurrying around to get a special dispensation to pay 75% of their costs? If they didn't have that loophole, lots of congressional members and their staffers would have quit, because (like us) they just can't afford to pay for Obamacare.
4. The more h**xes like this are passed around, the more misinformed (even though right-minded) conservatives go around screaming about all these bogus charges. Then ALL of us conservatives are painted by the Dems and the MSM as being ignorant i***ts who cast false aspersions on the great and wondrous Obamacare.
5. Come on, people -- there are more than enough real evils and ills associated with Obamacare. Stop sending these garbage h**xes around.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I would mention the IPAB part of the law, but surely you don't want to call that bad.

I would mention the fact that many of us on Medicare are getting cancerous problems taken care of before the law goes into effect and the IPAB gets around to telling us we are too old to take up all that money. I messed around with a carcinoma on my nose till last week and had it cut out. Of course, Medicare will pay for it all, that is as much as they pay for, but who knows what would happen after January 1, 2014.

I know you aren't sticking up for the Dems and their solely passed law that originated in the Senate and is therefore unconstitutional, but you sound like you are.