dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

Part of Barack Obama's answer to a question presented at yesterday's news conference in Germany. The remarks were in regards to problems with Obamacare. I can't find a copy of the speech on line (so far) but it really perked up my ears when I heard it because, as we all know, not a single Republican worked on that legislation. Nor did even one Republican v**e for it. I'd love to see a history book 100 years from now to see if Obama's version of history carries through or if the t***h comes out instead.

Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx

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trustNO_one

Obamacare is for the sake of the health insurance companies, not for the general well being of the US population. No one, left or right can dispute the financial( vis a vis- political power) of the insurance companies.
Insurance companies exist to screw sick people out of money, Obamacare exists to support that. Something like this would have come out of a Conservative president, it was only a matter of time.
Yes it is socialism, Corporate Socialism, which is what we have here in the US. If a major corporation needs something, the Gov'mt bends over backwards to provide it to them. All under the guise of "Trickle Down Economics" ( in other words Corporate Socialism).
Right or Left- No one can deny Corporate Socialism. Mussolini had a name for it.......

Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx

Health care should be on a pay as you go system, with prices set by supply and demand. You can't pay, you don't go. Healthcare is not a right, at present, it is a means of controlling the population.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

His entire response.... well it is full of "crap." Here is the quote from that meeting: "Q Thank you, Mr. President. More than six million Americans may soon lose health insurance if the Supreme Court this month backs the latest challenge to the Affordable Care Act. A growing number of states are looking for assistance as they face the prospect that their residents may lose federal insurance subsidies and their insurance markets may collapse. Yet, your administration has given very little to no guidance on how states can prepare. What can you tell state leaders and advocates who worry that health care markets in half the country may be thrown into chaos?

THE PRESIDENT: What I can tell state leaders is, is that under well-established precedent, there is no reason why the existing exchanges should be overturned through a court case. It has been well documented that those who passed this legislation never intended for folks who were going through the federal exchange not to have their citizens get subsidies. That’s not just the opinion of me; that’s not just the opinion of Democrats; that’s the opinion of the Republicans who worked on the legislation. The record makes it clear.

And under well-established statutory interpretation, approaches that have been repeatedly employed -- not just by liberal, Democratic judges, but by conservative judges like some on the current Supreme Court -- you interpret a statute based on what the intent and meaning and the overall structure of the statute provides for.

And so this should be an easy case. Frankly, it probably shouldn’t even have been taken up. And since we’re going to get a ruling pretty quick, I think it’s important for us to go ahead and assume that the Supreme Court is going to do what most legal scholars who’ve looked at this would expect them to do.

But, look, I’ve said before and I will repeat again: If, in fact, you have a contorted reading of the statute that says federal-run exchanges don’t provide subsidies for folks who are participating in those exchanges, then that throws off how that exchange operates. It means that millions of people who are obtaining insurance currently with subsidies suddenly aren’t getting those subsidies; many of them can’t afford it; they pull out; and the assumptions that the insurance companies made when they priced their insurance suddenly gets thrown out the window. And it would be disruptive -- not just, by the way, for folks in the exchanges, but for those insurance markets in those states, generally.

So it’s a bad idea. It’s not something that should be done based on a twisted interpretation of four words in -- as we were reminded repeatedly -- a couple-thousand-page piece of legislation.

What’s more, the thing is working. I mean, part of what’s bizarre about this whole thing is we haven’t had a lot of conversation about the horrors of Obamacare because none of them come to pass. You got 16 million people who’ve gotten health insurance. The overwhelming majority of them are satisfied with the health insurance. It hasn’t had an adverse effect on people who already had health insurance. The only effect it’s had on people who already had health insurance is they now have an assurance that they won’t be prevented from getting health insurance if they’ve got a preexisting condition, and they get additional protections with the health insurance that they do have.

The costs have come in substantially lower than even our estimates about how much it would cost. Health care inflation overall has continued to be at some of the lowest levels in 50 years. None of the predictions about how this wouldn’t work have come to pass.

And so I’m -- A, I’m optimistic that the Supreme Court will play it straight when it comes to the interpretation. And, B, I should mention that if it didn't, Congress could fix this whole thing with a one-sentence provision.

But I’m not going to go into a long speculation anticipating disaster.

Q But you’re a plan-ahead kind of guy. Why not have a plan B?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, you know, I want to just make sure that everybody understands that you have a model where all the pieces connect. And there are a whole bunch of scenarios not just in relation to health care, but all kinds of stuff that I do, where if somebody does something that doesn't make any sense, then it’s hard to fix. And this would be hard to fix. Fortunately, there’s no reason to have to do it. It doesn't need fixing. All right?"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/06/08/remarks-president-obama-press-conference-after-g7-summit

There were some other things in his address that, well just does not ring true to facts.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Exactly. In fact when he signed his law, I immediately dumped some of my stocks and bought those associated with health care and insurance. It was a wise decision. You see, the people getting richer are the insurance companies and those who buy their stocks. The insurance company is not in the business of making people healthy, they are there because all people are afraid of sickness and death. The insurance company bets that the vast majority of people will not use their benefits (exception of those who already had state funded medical coverage and they seem to be at the doctor's office every week) and the one being insured is betting that they will need major care in the near future. The insurance company is right, most working individuals do not go to the doctor often (time and expense). So Americans pay large sums of money for the insurance that is never paid out. And I will bet, Obama has quite the portfolio of stocks and more than 20 percent is in medical...either insurances or pharmaceuticals.

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

Thanks Penny, I bolded the remarks that caught my attention. There's a story in the MSN Homepage today that reports that hospitals routinely raise prices to "1,000 % of costs." The whole "Health Care" area of society reeks of corruption and mismanagement.

The real "reeker" here is Obama trying to say that the Un-Affordable Care Act was written by both Dems and Repubs.

dwallace2015

You really think you will get any sort of "t***h" from Obama? He is the premier, number one liar of our age. Hillary is number two. (pun intended and deserved)

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

You should have heard her speech this morning. (Perhaps you did?) The scary thing is that she and the hundreds of sycophants in the audience actually seem to buy these press releases. They smile, nod and clap as if even one word was the t***h. Twist, spin, obfuscate and on & on it goes ...