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Jun 7, 2015 13:13:29   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
The majority right wing conservatives in the Political Plaza are sending posts attacking President OBAMA, and calling "OBAMACARE" Medicare, Medicaid, etc. socialized medicine that was created to help the poor families, retirees, and veterans who struggle to survive now with the high cost of living increases. In U.S.A. today cats and dogs have a better medical care, and loving care than human beings, the american Medical care, Hospitals, and Pharmaceutical Industry are a monopoly without Government quality and cost control that increased 16% per year driving the american families without good Medical Insurance to bankruptcy .

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Jun 7, 2015 13:19:02   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Jerry A. wrote:
The majority right wing conservatives in the Political Plaza are sending posts attacking President OBAMA, and calling "OBAMACARE" Medicare, Medicaid, etc. socialized medicine that was created to help the poor families, retirees, and veterans who struggle to survive now with the high cost of living increases. In U.S.A. today cats and dogs have a better medical care, and loving care than human beings, the american Medical care, Hospitals, and Pharmaceutical Industry are a monopoly without Government quality and cost control that increased 16% per year driving the american families without good Medical Insurance to bankruptcy .
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jun 7, 2015 13:59:00   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Jerry A. wrote:
The majority right wing conservatives in the Political Plaza are sending posts attacking President OBAMA, and calling "OBAMACARE" Medicare, Medicaid, etc. socialized medicine that was created to help the poor families, retirees, and veterans who struggle to survive now with the high cost of living increases. In U.S.A. today cats and dogs have a better medical care, and loving care than human beings, the american Medical care, Hospitals, and Pharmaceutical Industry are a monopoly without Government quality and cost control that increased 16% per year driving the american families without good Medical Insurance to bankruptcy .
The majority right wing conservatives in the Polit... (show quote)



Jerry
medical practice in the US is excellent.
my wife has had breast cancer twice-total mascectomy.
then a spot was found on her left lung--cancer
the term "cyber knife "was used on her.
only three treatments and the tumor was completely deleted.
without such great medicical help my wife would have been dead now for five years.

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Jun 7, 2015 14:40:56   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
Jerry
medical practice in the US is excellent.
my wife has had breast cancer twice-total mascectomy.
then a spot was found on her left lung--cancer
the term "cyber knife "was used on her.
only three treatments and the tumor was completely deleted.
without such great medicical help my wife would have been dead now for five years.


Shouldn't every person in the US be given this kind of healthcare, regardless of ability to pay or not? Or do you think quality, loving health care is a privilege for only those that can pay for it?

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Jun 7, 2015 17:17:25   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
buffalo wrote:
Shouldn't every person in the US be given this kind of healthcare, regardless of ability to pay or not? Or do you think quality, loving health care is a privilege for only those that can pay for it?


social medicine??
ask Canada

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Jun 7, 2015 17:52:26   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
social medicine??
ask Canada


Canadians love their Medicare for All health care system.

http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Canada

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/singlepayer_myths_singlepayer_facts.php

http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-e******ns/info-03-2012/myths-canada-health-care.3.html

Guess what Medicare in the US is.

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Jun 7, 2015 19:33:45   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 


the ones I know don't
they wait months just for an Mri
I don't wait

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Jun 7, 2015 19:35:51   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
badbobby wrote:
the ones I know don't
they wait months just for an Mri
I don't wait


you may want to call it socialized medicine
but you are wrong
medicare recipients paid long and dearly for their medicare
it is definitely not free : :thumbdown:

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Jun 7, 2015 20:10:13   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
the ones I know don't
they wait months just for an Mri
I don't wait


How lucky you are. Was your MRI ordered because of some kind of emergency? If it is an emergency in Canada you will get an MRI quickly. Wait times for non emergency MRIs depend on where you live in Canada. If you are not covered by medicare, medicaid, or insurance and not wealthy, you ain't gonna get an MRI in the US.

If the Canadian Medicare for All system is so bad, why are 86% of Canadians happy with the system?

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Jun 7, 2015 20:23:06   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
you may want to call it socialized medicine
but you are wrong
medicare recipients paid long and dearly for their medicare
it is definitely not free : :thumbdown:


I don't remember calling Medicare socialized medicine. It is single payer. Why should we have to wait until 65 to get Medicare, yet pay a medicare tax until then. Look into HR676.

Canadians pay for their Medicare for All, also. So, it is not "free". But the taxes Canadians pay for universal coverage are paltry compared to the premiums paid to private, for profit health insurance corporations that amount to 2 monthly car payments?

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Jun 7, 2015 21:03:23   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
badbobby wrote:
Jerry
medical practice in the US is excellent.
my wife has had breast cancer twice-total mascectomy.
then a spot was found on her left lung--cancer
the term "cyber knife "was used on her.
only three treatments and the tumor was completely deleted.
without such great medicical help my wife would have been dead now for five years.


badbobby: You are are right some people have excellent Medical care in U.S.A., I had 2 open heart surgeries one in 1979, and the other in 1988, and I had excellent Medical care and paid nothing out of my pocket because I had 2 very good Medical insurance coverage one from my employer and the second from my wife employer, but today is different with HMOs. insurance and no duplicate of benefits many people died before they had the surgery to save insurance money.

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Jun 8, 2015 11:27:01   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
buffalo wrote:
How lucky you are. Was your MRI ordered because of some kind of emergency? If it is an emergency in Canada you will get an MRI quickly. Wait times for non emergency MRIs depend on where you live in Canada. If you are not covered by medicare, medicaid, or insurance and not wealthy, you ain't gonna get an MRI in the US.

If the Canadian Medicare for All system is so bad, why are 86% of Canadians happy with the system?


no emergency
back problems
went to dr and he scheduled mri to determine exact cause of my problem
no waiting
was done the next day
I talk to many Canadian friends on the internet
they all have horror stories to tell
waiting for procedures
traveling to where procedure can be done hotel or motel expenses away from home
you should talk personally with Canadians instead of just believing socialist posts
have a nice day

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Jun 8, 2015 14:49:34   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
no emergency
back problems
went to dr and he scheduled mri to determine exact cause of my problem
no waiting
was done the next day
I talk to many Canadian friends on the internet
they all have horror stories to tell
waiting for procedures
traveling to where procedure can be done hotel or motel expenses away from home
you should talk personally with Canadians instead of just believing socialist posts
have a nice day


My brother is an ER doctor and his wife is a Canadian RN with dual citizenship. She has a totally different opinion than what you have heard. Canada is a sparsely populated country with vast distances between metropolitan areas. So it stands to reason some people would have to travel long distances to get sophisticated medical procedures. There are areas in the US, especially the southwest, that require travel and motel stays to get certain medical procedures. The nearest Cancer Center of America is over 6 hours away from where I live. MD Anderson in Houston is 6 1/2 hours away from here.

My brother says that people here often have long waits for certain procedures. He has personally seen a Canadian citizen that was on vacation in Mexico that was brought to his ER with a heart attack that required cath**erization and the Canadian government sent a private lear jet to take him back to Canada for the procedure because that was less expensive that t***sferring him to a US facility that could do it.

Do you have private health insurance or are you on Medicare? Many physicians , including my brother, favor the US going to the Improved Medicare for All (HR676). It would save an estimated $500 Billion annually that the private, for profit health insurance corporations extract from the health care system. None of that $500 billion goes to pay for anyone's health care. It, instead, goes to pay CEOS and top executives millions in salaries and bonuses to figure out how to get out of paying as many health care claims a they legally can.

Health care should be a right for everyone. Not a bankrupting privilege.

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Jun 8, 2015 22:21:25   #
9th Marines
 
badbobby wrote:
Jerry
medical practice in the US is excellent.
my wife has had breast cancer twice-total mascectomy.
then a spot was found on her left lung--cancer
the term "cyber knife "was used on her.
only three treatments and the tumor was completely deleted.
without such great medicical help my wife would have been dead now for five years.


I believe the issue is access to medical care, not its quality.
That is the purpose of Medicaid, Medicare, and the Affordable
Care Act. Few people question the quality of services, but decry its accessibility.

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Jun 8, 2015 22:23:22   #
9th Marines
 
badbobby wrote:
social medicine??
ask Canada


I have several close friends from Canada and not one has been critical of either the accessibility or quality of their healthcare.

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