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May 30, 2015 17:26:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
That "faulty " intel came from the CIA/CFR/Mossad.
The USA was played again.
We still are being played..

Anigav6969 wrote:
No, they cherry picked information ....they also took info that was faulty and ran with it....they are responsible for thousands of deaths...shame on them

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May 30, 2015 17:31:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
The NeoCONs got us in this mess in the Middle East. Bilderbergers own both parties.
The video below is just one of many exposing the treachery of some politicians, and those they serve.
Who wonders why CIA funded ISIS in Syria? Why did CONgress add another $500 million in funding "insurgents" in Syria?
The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zb is in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI


Anigav6969 wrote:
He used chemical weapons on his own people....in the 1980's ....talk about a delayed reaction ! We know this because we have the receipts.....we didn't care 35 years ago...that's an old argument

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May 30, 2015 18:30:27   #
Anigav6969
 
eagleye13 wrote:
That "faulty " intel came from the CIA/CFR/Mossad.
The USA was played again.
We still are being played..


I don't think there was faulty Intel....I think there was Cherry picked Intel, by people who wanted to go to war

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May 30, 2015 19:19:20   #
Airforceone
 
jimahrens wrote:
Deficits look at Obama The great stimulus plan Nothing more than a joke. Yes liberals want ,take lie, Never give back. A bunch of blood sucking leaches.


Why not look at the stimulus plan that you call a joke. Read the final CBO report. Read the transcript by CBO director Douglas Elmendorf when he testified in congress to a bunch of annoyed republicans that got pissed when he told congress in 2012 it was a success.
The stimulus final report which is accurate because all stimulus was required to be reported back to the CBO.
42,000 miles of roads fixed or replaced, 2,700 bridges replaced, 12,000 t***sit vehicals purchased, it cleaned up water supplies, created School reform, greatly expanded the use of renewable energy, and expanded broadband internet services.
Created and saved 3.7 million jobs.
Extended unemployment during the Bush recession.
Raised the economic output by 3% from 2009 to 2010
Prevented 5.3 million people from losing there homes and going into poverty.

You just can't make statements such as that when you have no idea what that stimulus accomplished. All you have to do is look up the Final CBO report on the stimulus package it's all there.

I know your out of touch with facts but to use a right wing propaganda talking point shows how our of touch you are.

The success of the stimulus as documented by independant economist and the bi-partison CBO report. Just read this stuff you not dealing with facts. So sad

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May 30, 2015 19:33:19   #
Airforceone
 
jimahrens wrote:
You are an ignorant self centered Moron. Question Who ties your shoes?


Damm you fools just won't even believe George W Bush when he said there was no WMD program he stopped the search and you call me ignorant

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May 30, 2015 19:40:49   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
tdsrnest wrote:
I try to dispel this myth about WMDs that Iraq had stockpiled when Goeord W Bush no longer makes such claims. So I researched the Bush invests goon and search.

After the invasion in 2003 Bush formed the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) and there task was locating WMD stockpiles and Nuclear Program. ISG was staffed with hundreds intelligence analyst and thousands of military personnel from the US, United Kingdom and Australia.

According to the ISG final report the search for WMDs begain during the invasion found nothin. After the invasion the ISG conducted a more systematic collection of evidence.

During there investigation the ISG reported 53 munitions have been recovered and were all part of the pre-1991 gulf war. This recieved significant right wing media overhype. This is the right wing media that continues to use propaganda that Iraq posses WMD and nuclear programs.

The Final ISG report concluded.

Saddam ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the gulf war.

While a small number of old abandoned chemical munitions were found ISG judges that Iraq destroyed it's WMDs in 1991 and there was no evidence that Baghdad resumed production.

Experts from 3 nations failed to find any existent WMD or Nuclear Program. The ISG report was sufficient to convince Bush and Chaney that there was no WMDs in Iraq.

Then came the congressional testimony by the Head of the ISG, Charles Duelfer and he admitted we were all wrong on Iraq WMD'S


Anyone on OPP who continues to believe something without positive evidence and in the face of evidence to the contrary is no longer acting on the basis of reason. Any right wing media can take pictures of canister and write we found them Or Saddam had them but you just will not believe actual facts and reports by the ISG,

Please GOP and TP bloggers read the ISG final report dated September 30th 2004.

Also read the CIA final report. There top weapons inspectors found nothing after an 18 month intensive investagation and debriefing of WMD related detainees had been exhausted and nothing was found.

UN inspectors along with Chief weapons inspectors said his team found no WMD's or nuclear program. But Bush/Chaney would not believe this UN report and invaded anyway. What a bad idea and at what cost to this country.

But after ISG, CIA, and UN reports the right wing press continues to use old photos and continue to convince OPP bloggers that Iraq had these programs.
But millions of dollars spent not to mention the manpower to do such an intensive investagtion by actual experts, the right wing propaganda machine continues.

I have been insulted called a libtoid, turdnest, moron, i***t, Obama lover all because I read facts. I think it is time for the TP to come out of that right wing propaganda bubble and take a look at these declassified reports on such a bad idea war that cost this country lives, injuries, and the trillions of dollars for the war and the trillions of dollars in the future to care for our Veterans, and to make sure this never happens again.

And now the same right wing Neo cons are using the same scare tactics to get us into a war in Iran. I believe that these right wing Neo cons have just one agenda and that's war, and wealthy tax breaks.

So read the Iraq Survey Group, final CIA report, the UN inspectors report prior to the war and after the war, read the congressional testimony, it's all there and Bush admitted it. Not some right wing propaganda machine.
I try to dispel this myth about WMDs that Iraq had... (show quote)




Who cares anymore?! That's all ancient history - and can't be rewritten - no matter how many try. It matters not a damn wit anymore, what's done is done.

What matters now, is what we do tomorrow. We SHOULD try to learn from the past, but we don't, we keep making the same damn fool mistakes over and over again. Why? because we just can't pay attention long enough to see what's really going on. We are either STUCK in the past, or fantasizing about the future - instead of focusing on what's right in front of us.

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May 30, 2015 19:55:13   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
All the rich cats got the Money you know the ones you liberals h**e. Lets not forget millions lost when 2 solar Company's went bankrupt. And where are all the jobs. I forgot i******s are doing them.
tdsrnest wrote:
Why not look at the stimulus plan that you call a joke. Read the final CBO report. Read the transcript by CBO director Douglas Elmendorf when he testified in congress to a bunch of annoyed republicans that got pissed when he told congress in 2012 it was a success.
The stimulus final report which is accurate because all stimulus was required to be reported back to the CBO.
42,000 miles of roads fixed or replaced, 2,700 bridges replaced, 12,000 t***sit vehicals purchased, it cleaned up water supplies, created School reform, greatly expanded the use of renewable energy, and expanded broadband internet services.
Created and saved 3.7 million jobs.
Extended unemployment during the Bush recession.
Raised the economic output by 3% from 2009 to 2010
Prevented 5.3 million people from losing there homes and going into poverty.

You just can't make statements such as that when you have no idea what that stimulus accomplished. All you have to do is look up the Final CBO report on the stimulus package it's all there.

I know your out of touch with facts but to use a right wing propaganda talking point shows how our of touch you are.

The success of the stimulus as documented by independant economist and the bi-partison CBO report. Just read this stuff you not dealing with facts. So sad
Why not look at the stimulus plan that you call a ... (show quote)

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May 30, 2015 20:24:28   #
emarine
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
I don't think there was faulty Intel....I think there was Cherry picked Intel, by people who wanted to go to war


It was Cheney picked intel...he lied first a little one then a big one.... WMD,s were a smoke screen to remove Husain for selling oil under the table without the petro dollar... this will prove to be much worse than WMD,s in American history

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May 30, 2015 20:27:34   #
Anigav6969
 
emarine wrote:
It was Cheney picked intel...he lied first a little one then a big one.... WMD,s were a smoke screen to remove Husain for selling oil under the table without the petro dollar... this will prove to be much worse than WMD,s in American history


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 30, 2015 20:42:04   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
I doubt most Americans will ever learn the real story behind this and other wars.
It sure won't be in the school history books.

emarine wrote:
It was Cheney picked intel...he lied first a little one then a big one.... WMD,s were a smoke screen to remove Husain for selling oil under the table without the petro dollar... this will prove to be much worse than WMD,s in American history

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May 30, 2015 22:58:22   #
Airforceone
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Who cares anymore?! That's all ancient history - and can't be rewritten - no matter how many try. It matters not a damn wit anymore, what's done is done.

What matters now, is what we do tomorrow. We SHOULD try to learn from the past, but we don't, we keep making the same damn fool mistakes over and over again. Why? because we just can't pay attention long enough to see what's really going on. We are either STUCK in the past, or fantasizing about the future - instead of focusing on what's right in front of us.
Who cares anymore?! That's all ancient history - a... (show quote)


Right on Target: I posted this research to show where mistakes were made in the past and now we are listening to the same Neo cons that want another war in Iran.

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May 30, 2015 23:03:57   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Do you want to fight on U..S soil or fight over there. When you can make that judgment in good conscience then you can judge others for there mistakes.
tdsrnest wrote:
Right on Target: I posted this research to show where mistakes were made in the past and now we are listening to the same Neo cons that want another war in Iran.

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May 30, 2015 23:21:14   #
Airforceone
 
jimahrens wrote:
Do you want to fight on U..S soil or fight over there. When you can make that judgment in good conscience then you can judge others for there mistakes.


I don't want to fight anywhere.

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May 30, 2015 23:30:10   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Neither do I. But tell that to the Muslim extremist.
tdsrnest wrote:
I don't want to fight anywhere.

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May 31, 2015 08:01:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
jimahrens wrote:
Neither do I. But tell that to the Muslim extremist.


jimahrens; Tell that to those that funded and armed the Muslim extremists in Libya, Iraq, and now Syria.
The internationalist banking cabal. The One world government promoters (NWO) Bilderbergers.
Tell that to the foreign Policy wonks; the CFR.
Time to figure out war is a racket, a money making s**m for the PTB.

I post this video, because it exposes how America has been s**mmed:
Copy and share; if you really want to stop the fighting for BS.
Who wonders why CIA funded ISIS in Syria? Why did CONgress add another $500 million in funding "insurgents" in Syria?
The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zb is in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI

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