Something that has always troubled me: The "acid Test" of truth. How to be sure?.
Jul 20, 2015 13:14:53 #
fiatlux wrote:
I have no answer. I knew the answer many times ove... (show quote)
To me this life is a class room. It is where we learn the lessons necessary to become one with our God. One of the major lessons is finding your own truth. My truth is based upon my faith and my life experiences. It would not necessarily be your truth.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
Jul 20, 2015 13:47:00 #
She Wolf wrote:
To me this life is a class room. It is where we learn the lessons necessary to become one with our God. One of the major lessons is finding your own truth. My truth is based upon my faith and my life experiences. It would not necessarily be your truth.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
I respectfully disagree. That would make truth relative and truth is not relative.
Jul 20, 2015 18:10:44 #
PeterS wrote:
That is moral relativism. Such belief has no moral or spiritual foundation, it is a house built upon sand.All belief in the supernatural is based on irrationalism so truth is literally relative. What do you want truth to be and that is it. In such a world truth is based on affirmation not confirmation so the more people who support a position then the more likely it is to be true. The herd will follow anything that the most people agree upon...
Jul 21, 2015 02:12:50 #
mwdegutis wrote:
Whoever said this...
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well..."
Any guesses?
How about answering some of my questions.
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well..."
Any guesses?
How about answering some of my questions.
A registered 68, 000 sects who agree with that statement (maybe) and each at odds with all the others. The question is: the acid test of truth? Which is the "one, true faith"? Does there have to be a "one, true faith"?
My neighbor wants to be barbeque his first born son because God told him this sacrifice is necessary: should I sing praises to the lord or call the police? He is certain God spoke to him: am I being faithless to doubt him?
Slavery as wholesome and right, along with laws against inter-racial marriage, were biblically proven for centuries: how did they test this against truth?
Jul 21, 2015 02:14:27 #
mwdegutis wrote:
I respectfully disagree. That would make truth relative and truth is not relative.
Of course truth is relative or how are there so many Christian sects? Truth being relative is not a problem, however; truth being absolute is. There can be no certainty to truth.
Jul 21, 2015 11:47:39 #
fiatlux wrote:
Saying so doesn't make it so. So prove it.Of course truth is relative or how are there so many Christian sects? Truth being relative is not a problem, however; truth being absolute is. There can be no certainty to truth.
Jul 22, 2015 03:21:04 #
She Wolf wrote:
To me this life is a class room. It is where we learn the lessons necessary to become one with our God. One of the major lessons is finding your own truth. My truth is based upon my faith and my life experiences. It would not necessarily be your truth.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
I think of truth as something no one--absolutely no one--can posses. To find truth we must lose the self. In that silence, and only in that silence, can truth be heard.
Jul 22, 2015 21:24:28 #
If this life is a CLASS ROOM
it seems most of the time is ONE BIG
DUCK AND COVER
DRILL
(BUT THAT'S NOT A BAD WAY TO LOOK AT THINGS)
it seems most of the time is ONE BIG
DUCK AND COVER
DRILL
(BUT THAT'S NOT A BAD WAY TO LOOK AT THINGS)
Jul 22, 2015 21:26:42 #
FROM THE SELFLESS SILENCE -
A VOICE CAME THAT I WAS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERRED
A VOICE CAME THAT I WAS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERRED
Jul 23, 2015 10:56:33 #
fiatlux wrote:
I have no answer. I knew the answer many times ove... (show quote)
The truth is what you believe, whether it's true or not.
In engineering we call that confirmation bias. An experiment can get valuable data that confirms some sort of intuition, but if you don't or can't replicate the experiment, than something extraordinary happened while you were conducting the original experiment.
There isn't anything wrong with bias, unless of course: you are seeking for truth.
Jul 24, 2015 00:50:00 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Saying so doesn't make it so. So prove it.
I did! You were obviously not paying attention:an inerrant Bible has produced over 100k versions of truth.
Jul 24, 2015 00:51:42 #
Dummy Boy wrote:
The truth is what you believe, whether it's true or not.
In engineering we call that confirmation bias. An experiment can get valuable data that confirms some sort of intuition, but if you don't or can't replicate the experiment, than something extraordinary happened while you were conducting the original experiment.
There isn't anything wrong with bias, unless of course: you are seeking for truth.
In engineering we call that confirmation bias. An experiment can get valuable data that confirms some sort of intuition, but if you don't or can't replicate the experiment, than something extraordinary happened while you were conducting the original experiment.
There isn't anything wrong with bias, unless of course: you are seeking for truth.
Seems that way, or why cling to it?
Jul 24, 2015 08:57:46 #
fiatlux wrote:
Seems that way, or why cling to it?
I know....
To some truth is the UNLIKELY answer.
And others cling to truth that makes them feel good, that is, part of a great herd. In numbers, there is strength.
Do we seek the truth by nature, or do we seek what seems like truth? Does it even matter to find the truth. We don't seem to value the truth (humankind in general). We value a linear path to a solution. That's why we have ethics, because we don't value truth. Ethics allows us to console our hearts and heads. Truth is an agenda and ethics provide the infrastructure to seek the truth. We don't know what we don't know if we don't ask the right questions. It even creates the illusion of truth because we can ask: "....you didn't ask me that".
Good topic by the way.
Jul 26, 2015 11:36:18 #
She Wolf wrote:
To me this life is a class room. It is where we learn the lessons necessary to become one with our God. One of the major lessons is finding your own truth. My truth is based upon my faith and my life experiences. It would not necessarily be your truth.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
We must each go on our own journey to find our truth. The search is a powerful lesson.
I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. Each of us should try to find our own truth since we are the only ones who can walk our particular chosen path...
Jul 26, 2015 11:41:27 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Saying so doesn't make it so. So prove it.
So prove your version of truth is absolute! You can't even prove god is true how are you going to prove your version of his truth true?
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