Let us start with introductions
May 13, 2015 21:23:55 #
no propaganda please
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mwdegutis wrote:
This is a VERY good thread to start. Am I religiou... (show quote)
Your journey into self knowing is interesting and reminds us that periods of self doubt often lead to a more intense searching and greater understanding of God's love. thank you for posting your introduction.
Jun 1, 2015 13:04:20 #
no propaganda please wrote:
I agree with you but most of the kids we work with... (show quote)
I hope to write a devotional this week about the part that pain plays in our life.
Jun 1, 2015 20:11:19 #
NPP, you and I could 'carry a tune' as long as it's sheet music.
As for me, I had what I felt was the most wonderful childhood anyone could want. Born at the tail end of the depression, I'm 82, both my dad and grandpa (we lived with him) worked, and I was spoiled rotten. I loved the Lord, and cannot remember a time when I did not believe. At one point, in my childhood, I thought I would like to grow up to be a nun (I was raised Lutheran - strict Missouri Synod). I gave that thought up because I realized my family would have apoplexy if I were to even mention it. I loved school and did well in my classes.
Then - I got married. We had one little girl, and when I was 3 months along with the second child, he left me. We did get back together, but it's like that Jeanie Seely song, 'when I stopped crying, I stopped caring.' It did not last long. He never supported the children, we lived with my dad until he passed away. After that, the Lord always made a way. I worked full-time, part-time, and sold Avon on the side. Can everyone do that? No, not unless you have God and determination.
I got a job working for the railroad, and I loved it. Worked as a clerk/steno in the Sales Office. Met my husband there, he was a Sales Representative. We were married for 38 years. In November 2014 he begin to fail, he was 95. I cared for him until April when I had to put him in the hospital to fight an infection. He died at home on May 4th. I miss him, but not to worry - God is still with me. Praise the Lord!
It may all sound pretty good, but I've had ups and downs. I have known pain, but I've grown from it, and accepted responsibility for the bad choices as well as the good ones. I thank the Lord that I lived at a time to see the best of America, I hope and pray for her future, but trust the Lord will handle whatever comes.
As for me, I had what I felt was the most wonderful childhood anyone could want. Born at the tail end of the depression, I'm 82, both my dad and grandpa (we lived with him) worked, and I was spoiled rotten. I loved the Lord, and cannot remember a time when I did not believe. At one point, in my childhood, I thought I would like to grow up to be a nun (I was raised Lutheran - strict Missouri Synod). I gave that thought up because I realized my family would have apoplexy if I were to even mention it. I loved school and did well in my classes.
Then - I got married. We had one little girl, and when I was 3 months along with the second child, he left me. We did get back together, but it's like that Jeanie Seely song, 'when I stopped crying, I stopped caring.' It did not last long. He never supported the children, we lived with my dad until he passed away. After that, the Lord always made a way. I worked full-time, part-time, and sold Avon on the side. Can everyone do that? No, not unless you have God and determination.
I got a job working for the railroad, and I loved it. Worked as a clerk/steno in the Sales Office. Met my husband there, he was a Sales Representative. We were married for 38 years. In November 2014 he begin to fail, he was 95. I cared for him until April when I had to put him in the hospital to fight an infection. He died at home on May 4th. I miss him, but not to worry - God is still with me. Praise the Lord!
It may all sound pretty good, but I've had ups and downs. I have known pain, but I've grown from it, and accepted responsibility for the bad choices as well as the good ones. I thank the Lord that I lived at a time to see the best of America, I hope and pray for her future, but trust the Lord will handle whatever comes.
Jun 3, 2015 00:41:35 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Hello, and welcome. We are all here to learn from one another about what we believe and how we came to our beliefs. We all come from interesting backgrounds, so do tell us as much about yourself as you feel comfortable. Please do not use your real names, addresses, and any other information you do not wish to fall into hands that could abuse your rights.
Only for you will I write this:
Have to start with a simple fact. I dislike what has happened to this Nation (USA) and the fakes that run it.
Background:
I come from a well off family, have been through enough in my life to write a book about what works and does not work. Have lived around the world, and have seen enough to know what is good about almost every single free Nation there is, and to have seen what is happening to the poor third world Countries.
I served 8 years in the US Navy, the majority of that 8 years was on SEAL Team 3. That was the start of travel for me personally. I won't spend much time on this, however, there is a bond and respect between some of the Military that goes past what most people understand, when you have been in any special forces unit. I am able to have contact with some friends that are still active, and I have my oldest Son that serves, he is a Lieutenant Commander, currently in Iraq, Mobile Weapons Disposal Unit, second in command.
After leaving the US Navy, I started a business from scrubbing toilets into the largest personally owned building maintenance company in California, and had a company called Service Masters buy me out, at the age of 28 for a few million. I spend the next few years working and attending college then attended UC Berkeley for a Law Degree. I hate court rooms and actually wanted to have the Law Degree for personal business reasons.
I worked for Burroughs Industries for a few years running their Cost Analyst Department, and then went on to be the Vice President of Trans America Finance, and have worked a few other Financial Companies but wanted to do something different.
For the past 22 years, I have owned a large commercial building company, build hospitals, malls, commercial properties, churches, casinos.
4 years ago I started a Machine Manufacturing company, some of my current customers are Porsche and Ferrari, SPA.
I plan on working until I have enough saved to do anything and everything I want.
I'm very happy within a great marriage, to date we have not even had one single fight or argument. We have lost two of our three children due to a drunk driver hitting them while they were in a car together. Not an easy part of life, but we moved past it.
Religion. My Family several generations back, lived in the Black Forest area of Germany and they were German-Jews. My immediate family (parents) never had any connection to the Jewish Faith, we always attended a variety of Christian Churches. And actually it was not until I was personally in Germany that we knew of our family background being connected to the Jewish faith and or bloodlines. So I have already been partial to the Jewish community from working with Israeli Commandos while in the Service and being able to visit there before I even knew I was "connected".
I tend to be a bit hostile towards some that I feel are destructive to either Religion or The USA or Freedom in general. There are some super good organizations that find to bond together as Christians to support and stand with Israel, is a good way to help safeguard our Freedoms.
I openly admit I am VERY judgmental but sorry folks, I love my life and everything about the USA and also Israel. If you have ever been there, you would know how it is there. Israel is like a Magnet, it draws you back. The people there are still able to do things "the old way" and have talents you could not even begin to imagine. And they love and support the USA much more than anything you will ever read in the Media here.
My faith in God, makes me know I might not be the best example, as I am someone that has defended already the rights of both Christians and Jewish, and have been willing to give my life doing so.
A pet peeve with me is how "men" want to tell one person or another what they should believe. We have scriptures. As "mankind" will always mess up anything they get their hands on, I tend to not desire to hear from one source over another about what is "truth"....or that person's spin on it. We have one God and one Christ. That's it. You can fall on one side of the fence on that or the other. But if you cannot respect what people desire to worship, without attempting to destroy them, or to pick on them for what they do believe, then you are as lost as what you will be claiming they are. Now of course, for me, this all ends with religious groups that are actually a way of life rather than a religion, such as Muslims. Cruel to hear but something I really do not care how offensive it is....Muslims are only targets. At least that is my NOT so Christian take on it. They dearly desire to kill you, me, and even each other. That is what they have done for centuries and do not think for one minute they want to be your "friend and neighbor".
That about does it for me, Penny. If I have offended anyone here or on this site,...well most likely you had it coming. To have walked in my shoes in life would have given you a taste of reality most people do not even think about. But also, even for some that may not like how or what I am all about, I would not hesitate to take up arms and fight to the very death for your rights to worship. In fact, I expect that might be coming soon. And if the USA ever does fall, I guess I will have to head to Israel and stand with Israel.
Jun 3, 2015 09:36:09 #
America Only wrote:
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Right now the Israeli economy is thriving, and no wonder - they are God's chosen people. That aside, I've been to Israel and would love to go back. The connection I felt with the Lord was something you can't explain, you just know it. I, too, have Jewish heritage from the one time Prussian region. I will add, the Black Forest is truly black.
As for 'organized religion' - if you haven't got it in your heart, man made rules, tenets, etc. may help you, but it won't give it to you. Each person has to find God for themselves, then He leads you. Salvation is a personal thing. You are to care for your neighbor, but each person is responsible for their soul.
Jun 3, 2015 09:36:10 #
Jun 3, 2015 10:26:32 #
no propaganda please
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BearK wrote:
NPP, you and I could 'carry a tune' as long as it'... (show quote)
Thanks for adding on to the introduction section. It really helps when we can understand each other better by learning their frame of reference.
Hope you are doing OK. You are one very tough and strong woman, an example for both men and women everywhere.
Jun 3, 2015 11:14:44 #
BearK wrote:
Right now the Israeli economy is thriving, and no ... (show quote)
Thanks as you are so very correct. I often had thought, it is not the bus that the Lord will save, but only those riding inside it!
Jun 3, 2015 23:50:47 #
America Only wrote:
Only for you will I write this: br br Have to sta... (show quote)
A truly remarkable life, good going. Impressive, really! But the thing about America it is supposed to give you no advantage or privilege for anything you thought, said, or did. Your experience and opinion adds up to one vote and nothing more. It does not not make you better qualified to speak for me or anyone. One vote! You are not special by what you did in the ideals of American freedom: you are just another citizen. This is the problem with many on the Right and Left: somehow they believe that their experiences, education, and success trumps "the welfare queen" in assessing what is best. It does not. ONE VOTE!
Jun 4, 2015 01:05:46 #
fiatlux wrote:
A truly remarkable life, good going. Impressive, r... (show quote)
"A pet peeve with me is how "men" want to tell one person or another what they should believe..." Amazing how you can some how twist what I have clearly stated to where I would conclude to have more than one vote? I know what I can vote for. I also know that when some slime comes along to try to manipulate my vote's effort to rob me of that vote, how and what to do from that moment on. Clearly if a person is an American, they have a self duty to do what they think is right for them and for their Nation.. However, there are rules in the form of the US Constitution. That Constitution belongs to all of America. If and when anyone attempts to destroy that freedom which comes from that Constitution, that of course is the lighting of a torch to clearly defend it. You can have all the freedoms you desire...but if you elect to destroy anything that is going to wreck havoc on MY freedoms, then you have a super large problem with me. I spare or give no mercy, and I take NO prisoners. I do not take that stand all alone either.
As to the "welfare queen", if such a person requires MY money to exist, then I have a financial stake on what does or does not happen in regards to that. If that person thinks they should have MY money and NOT have any obligation about it, then they are highly mistaken. To simply "exist" on the backs of others is just plain sick. I totally expect that soon, society will learn to halt the bad habit of allowing people to be so dependent on others. In fact that entire subject reminds me of the "Declaration of Independence"...everyone should be "independent" and take care of them selves. Not one place in either the US Constitution nor any other laws that govern the USA does it state I am to be financially responsible for anyone other than ME! For those that want to decide to fund someone else, let them pick whom it is they want to support. In fact I do support of my own free will a compound that houses 35 children that have no where else to live. I do not allow outside donations nor any source of an "agency" to look for in meeting the requirements of funding or providing for those children. They have educational, medical, and all that they could ever need or want for a normal healthy life, provided for them. These children have parents some place, that are not willing to support or take care of them...but...they (the parents) are on some assistance or maybe sell drugs or who knows what they do? They discarded these children when the child was all but around the ripe age of three or less.
So no...the welfare queens do not have much coming from me. They can have a vote, but they need to learn to get off their rear ends and become a productive part of life. I really do find that in the near future, they will not have a choice. If things do collapse in the USA all those on welfare will be forced to learn how to survive (or not). That all in itself may be a good thing in many ways.
Jun 4, 2015 02:25:08 #
America Only wrote:
"A pet peeve with me is how "men" w... (show quote)
You so completely epitomize the blindness and racism typical of so many on the Right there is no need to respond. Your comment is a testimony to the ugliness of privilege. Thank you for being so persuasive.
Jun 4, 2015 04:08:21 #
fiatlux wrote:
You so completely epitomize the blindness and racism typical of so many on the Right there is no need to respond. Your comment is a testimony to the ugliness of privilege. Thank you for being so persuasive.
Yep..how cruel it is for someone to wipe their own rear end in life, and to be FREE enough to not accept having to be forced to help others and yet have the freedom of choice to help some that truly are helpless. OF course that just sickens the hell out of you. I expected no less. What you have absolutely just proven is where you reside, the entire dwelling is made from cheap glue and the paper left over from your welfare statements, as if you could not have done something for yourself in life, you know...that dreaded four letter word...WORK! Oh dear, how horrible....only a MONSTER would suggest you actually have a JOB! Call the local news...quick! Tell them they have a news flash story! Yes indeed..someone expects you to WORK instead of having a hand out! The WORLD for you is crashing down! Oh my lord, you will need a crash cart quickly as your heart is going to give right out! Call the ambulance!
Privileged you call me? Let me tell you something you hot dog....the day I was discharged from the Military I could have simply allowed my Parents to send me a $100,000.00 check...it would have not made a slight dent in their checking account...nope. I had $450.00 in my pocket, and used that to purchase a bike, a sleeping bag and some personal needs items. I called and talked with my Parents and asked what did they think I should do? The immediate response was to find work. That is what I did. I painted house numbers on the curbs infront of homes for a few dollars each and then went to each and every single business that had a bathroom and asked it I could clean it...I purchased my own cleaning supplies and stayed in $35.00 a night cheap hotels....in less then a year I had built up my own business and less than two years, sold it for a hefty profit. Everything I have I worked for. WORKED! I have worked many years worth of 80 hour work weeks. What did that get me? Apparently one hell of a lot more than you can ever dream of having. Can YOU go find some place that actually needs you to rebuild it and to then house 35 unwanted children and pay totally for their entire needs and well being in their life? You have done NOTHING but be a anchor on the necks and backs of hard working Americans. I do not nor will not even NEED to bother with social security. I pay that and taxes as it is required by law. Period. Oh yes...I am privileged because I decided to MANAGE my life PROPERLY....how ever YOU...loser...are totally CLUELESS! No one but me has paid for what I do in life...not one penny from YOU....nor anyone else.
Your mind is warped. I had a exchange already with you. Go cluster yourself with other welfare hood rats. You belong there. You have exactly what you have been willing to put into life...NOTHING! You are an insult to America.
Jun 4, 2015 04:37:35 #
fiatlux wrote:
Sure.
I'd suggest for you to buy a small dog. Learn what it is to have to actually have to care for something aside from you buying things on your welfare card....see what it is like to have something depend on you....see how it brings along responsibilities......and then if that dog likes you, maybe you could have a more positive viewpoint about yourself and life. I can tell and I am so very positive I am 100% correct, you hate how low you are right now in life and when you see anyone else that has been a success (which you have not been able to achieve) it really frosts your bloomers.
You could have had something more in life...but you failed to decide to actually do anything, for some sick reason you think out of thin air, money or your needs will just "Poof" right into existence for you...like magic. Well you live in a fantasy world. Little wonder why you have nothing. You could start making money today if you had the desire to not be a loser. In fact with summer coming along you could make an easy extra $20,000.00 or more with ease. Now don't think I am saying this due to feeling sorry for you. Nope. But here is all you would have to do. Find a wholesale distributor for "flip flops". If you buy even a hundred (perhaps they would call it a small unit) they will sell you those for maybe seventy five cents a pair, maybe even less. Get them in all sizes or if they have just three. Small medium and large. Then sell them for a mere 2 bucks each pair. Hit the road, walk around town...get a peddlers license so you don't get in trouble with the law.....when you have sold them buy another batch but buy 200 this time...keep doing it until you reach a point when you have to hire help to sell them. Expand your sales area. Now go back online and find a distributor that makes/sells towels or t shirts with flip flops on the front design....sell them for the same level of profit. You can find towels for less than 2 dollars each and t shirts for about 2 dollars each with the flip flop design so that your customers are getting something a bit trendy looking something that matches...you will sell out quickly. If you did this you would make some decent extra money for simply doing it. WORK...I am SOOO horrible...yep. The numbers for cost of these things are a guess for buying a unit or bulk from a large wholesale outlet and more than likely they will not be American. BUT if you did buy from an American supplier...they will get their goods from a non American manufacturer anyway. China or maybe Nam.
Jun 4, 2015 05:18:30 #
fiatlux wrote:
You so completely epitomize the blindness and racism typical of so many on the Right there is no need to respond. Your comment is a testimony to the ugliness of privilege. Thank you for being so persuasive.
Racism....humm...you are one sick person. The compound I have for the care of children...not a single child there is white. Your comments are a testimony of pure ignorance. And as you toss at me that I am NOT a liberal that in itself steams your cookies even more...well guess what? You PINKO liberals in general only can consider someone like Hillary that chubbs money for donations to her personal pocket and only gives about 10 percent to anyone outside of her immediate family.....you are sure one sick person. You got your one vote...but your waste it for some Nazi Socialist pile of dung to rape this Nation even more than before. You should be ashamed of yourself and what you do (and do not do) in life. How does having that tattoo on your forehead that says, LAZY LIB on it, work for you? Toss a few more of your pathetic tid bit remarks, please...give me a reason to really shred you.
I will think of you when my Family members and I go down to our place on St. Croix and invite our friends to spend a week there...yep...every time I call for the garbage disposal to come by and pick up the trash......
Jun 4, 2015 06:50:03 #
fiatlux wrote:
A truly remarkable life, good going. Impressive, r... (show quote)
Make that two votes. In my opinion, which according to you, my opinion does not count for much - nevertheless --
There are others out there who have done what I have done, and more, but as I said, they must have God behind them and a strong determination.
Illegitimate children - if you don't know how it happened after the second one, no more welfare for additional. I bet they would know very quickly 'how it happened.'
Workfare to draw welfare or disability. The government isn't even checking to see how severe your disability is, or IF you really have one. Our liberal leadership wants to bankrupt the country and put us on a par with an extremely lowered standard of living - think 1600's Muslims.
Imagine a country where all the capable people took their money to some island and left - and the LEFTIES to their own devices. There would be a free-for-all among those left - the strong would survive, but with the money men, those with brains capable of producing innovation, and believers gone - things would turn to the law of the jungle quickly.
Then make it ONE MAN - ONE VOTE, you'd all be in the same leaky boat.
Read the book "Lord of The Flies."
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