Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

Now, before some of you go on a finger-pointing anti-r****t rant...based solely on the title...read and ponder this post.

It is my observation that SOME/MOST African-Americans...are devoid of DIVERSITY of thought. You hear them preach diversity in the context of inclusion, but you rarely see them preach diversity of thought. Why is that?

That's not to say that they are incapable of diversity of thought. That would be an ignorant and bigoted assessment. I'm referring to what they actually demonstrate. When you have a race of people that almost unanimously march in lock-step in their thinking and v****g, it puzzles me as to the cause.

Now, if you were to poll an AA individually with questions on their personal beliefs, principles and values they quite often espouse very conservative values. Mainly in the South. But as a group, they abandon those conservative principles and values and support political factions that are the antithesis of conservatism. Why is that?

I get it that what I've laid out is the fact that they do have diversity of thought, but don't seem to v**e their values. However you want to characterize it or frame it, it's still puzzling. Maybe they're just single-issue v**ers. Maybe they just listen to what their "leadership" tells them to do and they do it without thinking it through, I don't know.


Your thoughts.

robmull Loc: florida

The melting-pot of "Americanism," is the least r****t group of people in the world. I suppose some of the biggest offenders of racial ine******y are Parisians, Japanese and Chinese, who completely ostracize ANY other race; Parisians don't even like non-Parisian French; and forget about the French Canadian in Paris!!! Well, it's rather a "tribal" mentality, and b****s in America have that same "tribal" instinct. For a Judeo-Christian, [unarmed] black person to v**e for a pro-infanticide olive-skinned president can be nothing other than a "tribal," r****t ideology.

I love that "unarmed" designation the MSM ALWAYS gives to the "unarmed" black kid who was somehow involved with disrespecting the law and suffered the consequences. If you are a known strong-armed-robber, gang-banger or basic low-life criminal with a LONG arrest record, and resist arrest...the results could be fatal; "unarmed" or not!!!

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Your observations are, in my mind, spot on. I was raised in a black ghetto during the '50's and any comparison of then to now would not favor the latter. There was far less violence and much more family ethic then. Further, the stereotypical black then was one of being a hard worker.

The question one might ask is what happened. Daniel Patrick Moynihan predicted years in the early '70's what we see today, and Dr. Thomas Sowell wrote a book that depicts these changes titled "White Liberals and Black Rednecks"

I'd add this thought to the mix - so called leaders, like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, learned how to turn black victim-hood into political power and personal profit. The political power they've garnered within the Democrat Party became a mutually reinforcing marriage of convenience - and in order to sustain the power they need to sustain the victimization.

Just consider the simple reality that if b****s v**ed just 60/40 for Democrats, not a single Democrat would have been elected to a national office for the last two generations.

The single biggest threat to this hold on the black v**e is a diversity of thought. There is no greater threat to the Democrat Party than a black person going off the reservation (or if you prefer, plantation) and having thoughts not approved for a person of his skin color.

Doubt that, consider just this one example. Compare and contrast the Clarence Thomas and Bill Clinton "scandals" - If you assume that Thomas was totally guilty of what he was charged with and compare that to what clearly Clinton did multiple times, you see what I mean. The very people who expressed the most concern regarding Thomas are the same people who defended Clinton. Thomas represented a major threat - a black man with conservative ideology - should such a thing spread real danger would ensue for every Democrat office holder of any significance.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

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Charlatans like Jackson & Sharpton and highly educated and fast-talking Svengalis like Tavis Smiley, Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson and Cornell West have a stranglehold on the Black "psychi" in this country.

They have a unique ability to tap into the angst of Black America and exploit it to manipulate these unsuspecting people. Worshipping at the altar of Victimology is their ethos. Marxism is the underlying foundation of it all.

Will Black America ever wake up and realize they've been bamboozled for the past 50 years?

How is it they cannot see that an African-American was elected as President to two consecutive terms, yet race relations are the worse they've been in 35 years? Can they not see that the same outside rabble rousers that show up to events like in Ferguson and Baltimore are on the same side as those who manipulate them? Can they not see that the man behind the Resolute Desk is one of them? And everyone he has around and under him are the same?

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Neither Jackson nor Sharpton are Marxist - both profit greatly by leveraging their political power - Sharpton's multi-million dollar tax problems are one sign - and Jackson's family having the Budweiser franchise for much of Illinois is another. What they do would be less sickening, but no less wrong, if it were due to ideology - they're motivated by greed as much as any mean spirited capitalist you could name.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Olden, while I subscribe to and agree with your hypothesis, I would also include many, if not most, white Liberals in this classification.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

So how diverse is white conservative thinking?

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

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While there are several political identifiers (which somewhat identify one's thoughts on issues) the African-American almost unanimously identifies themselves as Democrats. Little to no diversity of thought outside the perimeter of the Democrat Plantation.

W***e A******ns cover the whole political spectrum quite diversely from the FAR Right Anarchists to the FAR Left C*******ts/F*****ts and everything in between. You don't see much of that in the black community.

As for your question of, "how diverse is white conservative thinking?", I can give you several examples.

First, the term "conservative" means different things to different people. But, assuming you mean "people on the Right", there is much overlap, but also diversity on a number of topics/issues:

This is easier showing this on a chalk board or a matrix so as to be able to point and talk for a quicker and more articulate explanation, but here goes...

Under the "Right" umbrella are the following factions:
Anarchists, Libertarians, Conservatives, Progressive Republicans (aka Moderates, Establishment GOP, RINOs, Democrat Lite), TEA Party, Constitutionalists, and wh**ever else.

Conservatives are much like the TEA Party and Constitutionalists. They believe in small gov't, balanced budgets, reducing debt and deficits by cutting spending, pro-life, marriage=man/woman, anti-drugs, pro individual rights (see, Bill of Rights), anti-i*****l i*********n, low taxes and federal regulation, pro-business, strong military, pro-death penalty to murderers, and wh**ever I can't think of off the top of my head.

As I said, there is overlap on the Right, but also diversity in thought. Take Libertarians for example: They'll check a lot of the same boxes as Cons, but differ when it comes to social issues and foreign policy as well as specifics on spending cuts. They're kind of a "live and let live" bunch that believes in maximum freedom with maximum personal responsibility without government intervention and legislating morality. Kind of a "Leave me alone, I got this" attitude.

Now, that's not to say that the Left doesn't have diversity in their camp, but my argument is that B****S don't display diversity in thought, not the Democrat Party.

Your question combined race and political affiliation, which my original premise did not.

Does that clear things up a little for you, or were you just tossing out a snarky rhetorical question? Hard to tell these days on OPP.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

No...not snarky. You recognize that liberals do not all march in lockstep. And you did not mix race and political affiliation. My question was in response to poppagringo who did mix race with political affiliation by remarking that white liberals also are devoid of diversity of thought, which I thought was too simple so I turned it around. I also recognize that conservatives do not have a single way of viewing the world. I do like your matrix conception for how to chart political thought.

:thumbup:

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

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Oops!!! My mistake, I thought you were addressing me with your question, but after you pointed out that you were replying to poppagringo, I went back to check and sure enough, I jumped in where I didn't belong. Sorry about that. I must've saw my name and just knee-jerked a response. Oh well, I answered for him. Hopefully with some tact and a tad of insight.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

No problem....and you were tactful (and insightful), which I appreciate.

ssgtgood

Maybe they're just dumba$$es.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

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We all have "those" in our respective groups, but it's larger than something that simple. I hope.

I think certain "leaders" gained their trust so many years ago, and have endorsed others behind them, using the race card to foment animosity and discontent among the masses. Divide and conquer. Alinsky taught these agitators/"community organizers" very well how to manipulate. Part of that manipulation is "Tell a lie enough times for long enough and it becomes the t***h". They've mastered that tactic.

Some of these snakes use this tactic and extortion for power and wealth for themselves as individuals (Jackson & Sharpton). Others push for a broader power structure shift towards something much more sinister. (Tavis Smiley, Lamont Hill, Michael Eric Dyson and especially Cornell West). These guys worship at the altar of Black Liberation Theology which is based in h**e and Marxism. And let's not forget the Rev Wright and Louis Farrakhan...and while we're at it, let's toss in a little Malik Shabazz of the NBB to round out this toxic witches brew of "Black Leadership".

Black people need to stop listening to these lying race-baiters, hucksters and freedom h**ers and (because they don't trust Whitey) start listening to Dr. Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson. Dr. Sowell is brilliant. Love his books and listening to him speak. Dr. Carson has become a worthy statesman as well. I love where his head is at, even though he's given me pause a couple of times by statements I didn't quite agree with. However, a man of his character (for me) will always be given the benefit of the doubt and a second listen and chance to clarify statements.