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Jul 30, 2013 19:40:55   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
snowbear37 wrote:
I think it's more an issue of states' rights vs. federal rights.

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791.[1] The Tenth Amendment states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited to the States, are reserved to the States or the people.

Unfortunately, many of the states' rights as well as the peoples' rights have been usurped by the Federal government. In many cases, because some of these rights are said to be part of the "commerce clause" (which in some cases, is a real "stretch").
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Progressives have used that stretched Commerce Clause and a number of states have already questioned their crap. Of course, progressives want pretty much to do away with the 10th Amendment as soon as possible. That would include the whole Constitution, too.

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Jul 30, 2013 19:44:05   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
working class stiff wrote:
Thanks for your response and now I realize my question wasn't as clear as it should have been. Let me try again....

What would happen when the laws governing gun ownership and sales of two different states conflict. Let's take a stereotypical hypothetical: NY state passes laws that severely regulate the types of firearms and ammunition available to it's citizens, and even taxes the ammo to raise funds to enforce its laws. Neighboring New Hampshire has a more open policy with no limits on the amount and types of guns and ammo a citizen could have.
One can guess that there would be a steady flow of firearms and munitions into NY.
Wouldn't that end up with NY suing NH in federal court, thus d**gging in the federal gov't, most likely with the commerce clause?
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I think there is a chance that you have failed to see that most of the newer laws pertain to guns produced and sold within the state involved. There is no way the feds can use the Commerce Clause on those laws since what they have always done concerns inter-state commerce not intra-state commerce. They have no control over intra-state commerce.

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Jul 30, 2013 19:45:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
TheC*****r wrote:
This is just one example of why it is important to promote your politics and v**e local. Both for state and congressional representation.

While the large cities may control the national e******ns, the dolts in Chicago, NY City and Detroit have no control of your state representatives.

The midterm e******ns can change the country even more than Obama, if the Liberal-Democrats control changes....

The one thing I would warn everyone about -- if you want to be politically active -- is not to act like the radicals you see on TV, and even your local political courthouse meetings.

Remember: Talk quiet but carry a big stick. Then only use it when you really can get what you want.

Just sayin
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Of course, all of us wield a big stick when intra-state commerce is involved so we need to elect people to state legislatures who will take advantage of that.

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