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Who has a book of the Koran?
May 3, 2015 17:47:26   #
asphaltman
 
I wud like someone to look up Koran (9:11) and tell me if it matches this verse below. Notice the Eagle represents the USA. The USA never wins a war but always make peace. Please look up this verse and reply. I copied it off a shoebox.

For it is written that a son of Abrabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced, for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

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May 3, 2015 18:09:48   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
asphaltman wrote:
I wud like someone to look up Koran (9:11) and tell me if it matches this verse below. Notice the Eagle represents the USA. The USA never wins a war but always make peace. Please look up this verse and reply. I copied it off a shoebox.

For it is written that a son of Abrabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced, for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
I wud like someone to look up Koran (9:11) and tel... (show quote)


It is a false Quotation which claims the Quran called for and even justified the World Trade Center attacks. In reality, the verse quoted is not in the Quran, and it is not even a close t***slation.

False Quote:
Quran ( 9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

Actual Quote:
Quran 9:11 -- But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.

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May 3, 2015 18:13:05   #
asphaltman
 
mwdegutis wrote:
It is a false Quotation which claims the Quran called for and even justified the World Trade Center attacks. In reality, the verse quoted is not in the Quran, and it is not even a close t***slation.

False Quote:
Quran ( 9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

Actual Quote:
Quran 9:11 -- But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.
It is a false Quotation which claims the Quran cal... (show quote)


Ok, Thank u Sir. oh, btw, What is the difference in a Koran and a Quran?

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May 3, 2015 18:15:05   #
SeniorVerdad
 
mwdegutis wrote:
It is a false Quotation which claims the Quran called for and even justified the World Trade Center attacks. In reality, the verse quoted is not in the Quran, and it is not even a close t***slation.

False Quote:
Quran ( 9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

Actual Quote:
Quran 9:11 -- But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.
It is a false Quotation which claims the Quran cal... (show quote)


It appears that Islam(it happens to Biblical scripture also) also has so-called Theologians who misquote their sacred book and change it's meaning around for wh**ever reasons.

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May 3, 2015 18:17:43   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
asphaltman wrote:
Ok, Thank u Sir. oh, btw, What is the difference in a Koran and a Quran?


There is no difference when compared with the meaning but there is just the difference of spelling. Koran is usually referred to by Americans. Quran and Qur'an are the Arabic spellings of it.

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May 3, 2015 18:19:37   #
asphaltman
 
mwdegutis wrote:
There is no difference when compared with the meaning but there is just the difference of spelling. Koran is usually referred to by Americans. Quran and Qur'an are the Arabic spellings of it.


ok, Thanks

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May 3, 2015 18:54:35   #
paschn
 
I think it is also very noteworthy that a comparison be made as to the orthodox references to The Christ in the three holy books of the primary religions involved in the present U.S./Israel hegemony occurring in the M East;

Christian Bible
The Christ is accepted as our savior, the only begotten son of our God and Creator.

Qur'an
Speaks with reverence regarding The Christ. calls him an honorable man and prophet

Talmud
Speaks of The Christ with pure unabashed hatred. Describes him as being boiled for eternity in hot excrement and his mother as a whore.

It would seem that the "Christians" of the West have tied their horse to a rather vile wagon in their mindless support of Israel as it slaughters, (along with the West in general, U.S. specifically), Muslims/Christians through out the world. Tells volumes about their firm belief in living their religion as they grovel before The Synagogue.... "the chosen".

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May 3, 2015 19:02:46   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
paschn wrote:
I think it is also very noteworthy that a comparison be made as to the orthodox references to The Christ in the three holy books of the primary religions involved in the present U.S./Israel hegemony occurring in the M East;

Christian Bible
The Christ is accepted as our savior, the only begotten son of our God and Creator.

Qur'an
Speaks with reverence regarding The Christ. calls him an honorable man and prophet

Talmud
Speaks of The Christ with pure unabashed hatred. Describes him as being boiled for eternity in hot excrement and his mother as a whore.

It would seem that the "Christians" of the West have tied their horse to a rather vile wagon in their mindless support of Israel as it slaughters, (along with the West in general, U.S. specifically), Muslims/Christians through out the world. Tells volumes about their firm belief in living their religion as they grovel before The Synagogue.... "the chosen".
I think it is also very noteworthy that a comparis... (show quote)


However, in the end they will become saved and accept Jesus as Messiah and be forgiven.

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May 3, 2015 19:54:14   #
MarksDaman Loc: USA
 
Jesus may well have nothing more than a myth. Just sayin.

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May 3, 2015 20:39:52   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
MarksDaman wrote:
Jesus may well have nothing more than a myth. Just sayin.


He's REAL to me.

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May 4, 2015 08:23:59   #
ssgtgood
 
mwdegutis wrote:
There is no difference when compared with the meaning but there is just the difference of spelling. Koran is usually referred to by Americans. Quran and Qur'an are the Arabic spellings of it.


Qur'an is the correct spelling.

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May 4, 2015 08:48:36   #
ssgtgood
 
MarksDaman wrote:
Jesus may well have nothing more than a myth. Just sayin.


You might have a point if the only mention of Jesus of Nazareth was in the New Testament but He is also mentioned in the writings of Josephus AND Philo, two Jewish historians in the 1st century. No, Jesus of Nazareth was real. By the way Josephus was actually the tetrarch of Galilee. Mohammad was illiterate and never wrote anything. The Qur'an and the hadiths of Tobari were not written until at least 150 years AFTER the death of Mohammad. It was all based on traditions and no eye witnesses. Did you know that Allah was actually a black rock housed in the shrine called the Ka'ba in Mecca. A rock, imagine that. Worshiping a rock is idolatry pure and simple.

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May 5, 2015 14:24:02   #
SeniorVerdad
 
ssgtgood wrote:
You might have a point if the only mention of Jesus of Nazareth was in the New Testament but He is also mentioned in the writings of Josephus AND Philo, two Jewish historians in the 1st century. No, Jesus of Nazareth was real. By the way Josephus was actually the tetrarch of Galilee. Mohammad was illiterate and never wrote anything. The Qur'an and the hadiths of Tobari were not written until at least 150 years AFTER the death of Mohammad. It was all based on traditions and no eye witnesses. Did you know that Allah was actually a black rock housed in the shrine called the Ka'ba in Mecca. A rock, imagine that. Worshiping a rock is idolatry pure and simple.
You might have a point if the only mention of Jesu... (show quote)


I encourage you to find a book called the Archko Volume. It is a book of letters that were found in the Vatican back in the mid 1800's which were written by various Romans who occupied Gallilee in the days of Christ. There are also letters from different members of the Sanhedrin(sp) to the Sanhedrin about Jesus's birth and various other events of the time. A significant portion of the book goes into the finding and authentication of the letters and of various scholars involved in t***slation from the ancient languages into English. Very interesting reading.

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May 6, 2015 08:34:42   #
ssgtgood
 
SeniorVerdad wrote:
I encourage you to find a book called the Archko Volume. It is a book of letters that were found in the Vatican back in the mid 1800's which were written by various Romans who occupied Gallilee in the days of Christ. There are also letters from different members of the Sanhedrin(sp) to the Sanhedrin about Jesus's birth and various other events of the time. A significant portion of the book goes into the finding and authentication of the letters and of various scholars involved in t***slation from the ancient languages into English. Very interesting reading.
I encourage you to find a book called the Archko V... (show quote)


Thanks SeniorVerdad. I actually have the Archko Volume, very interesting reading. I found this book 15 years ago.
God bless
ssgtgood

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