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May 3, 2015 01:45:48   #
Al-ien
 
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with them probably 90+ most of the time but something has been troubling me for some time. I'd like to know what some of you feel about this.
As most of you know, that watch, Judge Jeannine has been on a crusade to fix the electric grid, which is fine. I can't understand though when she says that if the grid goes down, it can put millions of life at risk, I believe she said 9 million or 90 million which is irrelevant but the cost to secure it would only cost in the neighborhood of 2 billion dollars which is chicken feed in the realm of the federal spending. I find this to be a false premise. by any measure of the imagination, I can't think of any reason that ANY politician would not try to solve this despite party affiliation. They made excuses that there is an energy lobby of some sort that is the problem. That sounds farfetched because the government could force them to comply if it concerned national security. What am I missing? I tried to contact the judge by Face book but got no reply, which I didn't expect but I am annoyed by her poor explanation.

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May 3, 2015 02:38:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry I have not watched her and do not know if she may be talking about a temporary problem or a protracted issue say from an EMT.

CONSEQUENCES OF POWER FAILURE,

TEMPORAY. Not much. A dirty house and dirty people. But, most people will do fine. This is a loss of 10 or fewer days. As the circumstance goes on, then there are big problems.

Protracted grid failure = Mass death
Hospitalized on life support
Premature babies
People in need of immediate surgery
Some elderly, depending on their need for medications
Inner-city dwellers
Stupid people (not intending to be unkind)
Then the spread of disease from unsanitary conditions. Dysentery, Typhus, TB, Cholera, Measles, and a host of others
Starvation would claim billions in the US alone
People would freeze to death or die from the heat
Very young babies
Elderly, those that were healthy after the initial culling
Infections would claim anyone with depressed i****e s****m (which is the vast majority of Americans)

What would be lost
Ability to make chemicals used in medicine and equipment
T***sportation, including private cars
Toilets that flush
Refrigeration
Heating and cooling
Grocery stores
Fresh water
Petrol, both oil and gas
Communications
Large farms

Both of the above lists are incomplete. These are just the first things that came to mind.

Life would become a bitter, brutal struggle for survival. We would not and cannot just go retro and go back to the 1800s. Society thrived in the 1800s for four very simple reasons: 1) a non-electric infrastructure already existed; 2) people had the sk**ls, knowledge and tools to make do; 3) our population levels were far lower, and most people lived rural and raised a significant portion of their own food; and 4) there were relatively few people who didn’t earn their way. To be blunt, if you didn’t work, you seldom ate. Those who couldn’t work (the disabled, the elderly, etc.) were cared for by family members or charitable institutions.

Al-ien wrote:
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with them probably 90+ most of the time but something has been troubling me for some time. I'd like to know what some of you feel about this.
As most of you know, that watch, Judge Jeannine has been on a crusade to fix the electric grid, which is fine. I can't understand though when she says that if the grid goes down, it can put millions of life at risk, I believe she said 9 million or 90 million which is irrelevant but the cost to secure it would only cost in the neighborhood of 2 billion dollars which is chicken feed in the realm of the federal spending. I find this to be a false premise. by any measure of the imagination, I can't think of any reason that ANY politician would not try to solve this despite party affiliation. They made excuses that there is an energy lobby of some sort that is the problem. That sounds farfetched because the government could force them to comply if it concerned national security. What am I missing? I tried to contact the judge by Face book but got no reply, which I didn't expect but I am annoyed by her poor explanation.
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with t... (show quote)

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May 3, 2015 02:48:21   #
Al-ien
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Sorry I have not watched her and do not know if she may be talking about a temporary problem or a protracted issue say from an EMT.

CONSEQUENCES OF POWER FAILURE,

TEMPORAY. Not much. A dirty house and dirty people. But, most people will do fine. This is a loss of 10 or fewer days. As the circumstance goes on, then there are big problems.

Protracted grid failure = Mass death
Hospitalized on life support
Premature babies
People in need of immediate surgery
Some elderly, depending on their need for medications
Inner-city dwellers
Stupid people (not intending to be unkind)
Then the spread of disease from unsanitary conditions. Dysentery, Typhus, TB, Cholera, Measles, and a host of others
Starvation would claim billions in the US alone
People would freeze to death or die from the heat
Very young babies
Elderly, those that were healthy after the initial culling
Infections would claim anyone with depressed i****e s****m (which is the vast majority of Americans)

What would be lost
Ability to make chemicals used in medicine and equipment
T***sportation, including private cars
Toilets that flush
Refrigeration
Heating and cooling
Grocery stores
Fresh water
Petrol, both oil and gas
Communications
Large farms

Both of the above lists are incomplete. These are just the first things that came to mind.

Life would become a bitter, brutal struggle for survival. We would not and cannot just go retro and go back to the 1800s. Society thrived in the 1800s for four very simple reasons: 1) a non-electric infrastructure already existed; 2) people had the sk**ls, knowledge and tools to make do; 3) our population levels were far lower, and most people lived rural and raised a significant portion of their own food; and 4) there were relatively few people who didn’t earn their way. To be blunt, if you didn’t work, you seldom ate. Those who couldn’t work (the disabled, the elderly, etc.) were cared for by family members or charitable institutions.
Sorry I have not watched her and do not know if sh... (show quote)




Thank's Penny. What you say is precisely why I question it. There would be such a loss of life. Her explanation doesn't support any reasoning.

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May 3, 2015 03:03:01   #
mcmlx
 
Al-ien wrote:
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with them probably 90+ most of the time but something has been troubling me for some time. I'd like to know what some of you feel about this.
As most of you know, that watch, Judge Jeannine has been on a crusade to fix the electric grid, which is fine. I can't understand though when she says that if the grid goes down, it can put millions of life at risk, I believe she said 9 million or 90 million which is irrelevant but the cost to secure it would only cost in the neighborhood of 2 billion dollars which is chicken feed in the realm of the federal spending. I find this to be a false premise. by any measure of the imagination, I can't think of any reason that ANY politician would not try to solve this despite party affiliation. They made excuses that there is an energy lobby of some sort that is the problem. That sounds farfetched because the government could force them to comply if it concerned national security. What am I missing? I tried to contact the judge by Face book but got no reply, which I didn't expect but I am annoyed by her poor explanation.
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with t... (show quote)


Because it's the US government who WANTS to take the grid down. Government wants to have a New World Order, and by rendering us "helpless", which we aren't, will succeed more in the master plan.
The foreigners who come to our country already know how to live off of the most meager resources.
MCMLX

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May 3, 2015 03:05:49   #
mcmlx
 
And, what is wrong with using your abilities to survive?!
I think that most of our ancestors did.
MCMLX

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May 3, 2015 03:17:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The reasons well society would break apart in a cascading fashion. When generators fail, seriously ill patient would die. No way to get them to cemeteries and no refrigeration the disposal of bodies would be a problem and health risk. Then as people took the last petro from gas stations, cars and trucks would no longer move merchandise, therefore no fresh food at markets. Markets would have to dispose of rotting goods such as meat and fruits, to keep pests such as flies and roaches from contaminating packaged goods. L**ting in inner cities would be unstoppable, so people will arm themselves and shoot each other, see above for body disposal problems. As inner city people move to outlying areas, they would be a burden due to having no usable sk**ls. Large farms; cattle, vegetable, and fruit would start to fail, lack of ability to quickly plant, harvest and t***sport. Lack of refrigeration would eliminate the long term storage of meats. And then it just might get bad. Medicine could not be produced and most people are not herbalist so they will not know how to gather and prepare homeopathic drugs. Just think about everything that would fail without power and step it back. In two years, the US will lose 30 percent of its population, in 5 to 10 years, 50 percent, until around year 25 the population would again stabilize. Right now we have 130,000,000 people...... scared yet?

This scarred my husband too. So, I own a home in the southwest that is a self sustaining earth shelter. Own water, own land, and completely off the grid. And it is fully stocked. If things go from bad to worse, after day 5 I would gather my family and we would caravan west. Imagine over 600 Jewish people living on a farmette.....:lol: Too tragic for even me to think about.

Al-ien wrote:
Thank's Penny. What you say is precisely why I question it. There would be such a loss of life. Her explanation doesn't support any reasoning.

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May 3, 2015 03:20:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Only about 22 percent of Americans have survival sk**ls and only about 2 percent can turn a cannon into a plow shear....

mcmlx wrote:
And, what is wrong with using your abilities to survive?!
I think that most of our ancestors did.
MCMLX

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May 3, 2015 04:26:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Pennylynn wrote:
The reasons well society would break apart in a cascading fashion. When generators fail, seriously ill patient would die. No way to get them to cemeteries and no refrigeration the disposal of bodies would be a problem and health risk. Then as people took the last petro from gas stations, cars and trucks would no longer move merchandise, therefore no fresh food at markets. Markets would have to dispose of rotting goods such as meat and fruits, to keep pests such as flies and roaches from contaminating packaged goods. L**ting in inner cities would be unstoppable, so people will arm themselves and shoot each other, see above for body disposal problems. As inner city people move to outlying areas, they would be a burden due to having no usable sk**ls. Large farms; cattle, vegetable, and fruit would start to fail, lack of ability to quickly plant, harvest and t***sport. Lack of refrigeration would eliminate the long term storage of meats. And then it just might get bad. Medicine could not be produced and most people are not herbalist so they will not know how to gather and prepare homeopathic drugs. Just think about everything that would fail without power and step it back. In two years, the US will lose 30 percent of its population, in 5 to 10 years, 50 percent, until around year 25 the population would again stabilize. Right now we have 130,000,000 people...... scared yet?

This scarred my husband too. So, I own a home in the southwest that is a self sustaining earth shelter. Own water, own land, and completely off the grid. And it is fully stocked. If things go from bad to worse, after day 5 I would gather my family and we would caravan west. Imagine over 600 Jewish people living on a farmette.....:lol: Too tragic for even me to think about.
The reasons well society would break apart in a ca... (show quote)


No offense, but every Jew I have ever met loves to argue. Debate might be more accurate. There would certainly never be a dull moment. Got room for a truculent goy?

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May 3, 2015 05:42:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
No offence ever taken with you!!!

Trust me, there is never a dull moment or conversation. In fact, there is never a moment when it is quite without a discussion. Or someone playing music or someone having a drama...... it is fun. I would not want to have it any other way!!!

Loki wrote:
No offense, but every Jew I have ever met loves to argue. Debate might be more accurate. There would certainly never be a dull moment. Got room for a truculent goy?

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May 3, 2015 05:45:41   #
Loyal American
 
Today on another thread on OPP were comments about the Amish. With their beliefs and lifestyle, I think they would survive without the grid, don't you? I envy them.

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May 3, 2015 05:56:56   #
okie don
 
There Amish here in Oklahoma. Buggies and all. They'd make it all right.

All 'terrorists' would need to do is shoot out some t***sformers with high powered rifles, like occurred in CA about a year ago and we're "' shut down"'...(:

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May 3, 2015 05:59:33   #
okie don
 
Tesla has just come out with some Lithium batterys last week.($3500). Install them on your garage wall, hooked to solar panels and apparently they will run your home. Googke Tesla batteries, I guess, and check them out...(:

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May 3, 2015 06:17:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Do you have more information on this? You see the batteries (storage for nighttime use of electrical) are a pain in the behind to maintain and are more expensive to replace a line than your quoted.

Speaking of the little farmettee, I got word a few days ago that we now have 15 little calves (no, none are pure red), 4 lambs, and one horse. I have to get out there to see them!!!

okie don wrote:
Tesla has just come out with some Lithium batterys last week.($3500). Install them on your garage wall, hooked to solar panels and apparently they will run your home. Googke Tesla batteries, I guess, and check them out...(:

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May 3, 2015 06:35:37   #
dwallace2015
 
Wise up...Obama is a Muslim. He is the enemy of all Democracy, including and especially the US. He has been actively wiping his ass with the Constitution and Bill of Rights since he entered office. He is a t*****r to the US, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and mostly his own oath of office. He has reportedly violated that oath more than 250 times. As to the grid, if it goes down, so doe's America. That is Obama's overriding agenda. He wants America to fail, crash, burn and then he will declare "Martial Law" and become America's first dictator. He wishes to form the "North American Union", and the arrogant bastard has already printed and stockpiled new currency, called the "AMEROs". See pics on internet.
He is doing exactly what Castro did in Cuba. There will be no more e******ns, just Obama, decade after decade till he finally dies.
Wh**ever group controls Obama is actively pushing him to succeed.

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May 3, 2015 06:45:32   #
larrypuckett1939
 
THE ENERGY COMPANY'S DON'T WANT TO FIX THE GRID, BECAUSE THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THIS WAY.
DON'T STOP A BILLION(PROBABLY TRILLION) DOLLAR CASH COW!!
true patriot


Al-ien wrote:
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with them probably 90+ most of the time but something has been troubling me for some time. I'd like to know what some of you feel about this.
As most of you know, that watch, Judge Jeannine has been on a crusade to fix the electric grid, which is fine. I can't understand though when she says that if the grid goes down, it can put millions of life at risk, I believe she said 9 million or 90 million which is irrelevant but the cost to secure it would only cost in the neighborhood of 2 billion dollars which is chicken feed in the realm of the federal spending. I find this to be a false premise. by any measure of the imagination, I can't think of any reason that ANY politician would not try to solve this despite party affiliation. They made excuses that there is an energy lobby of some sort that is the problem. That sounds farfetched because the government could force them to comply if it concerned national security. What am I missing? I tried to contact the judge by Face book but got no reply, which I didn't expect but I am annoyed by her poor explanation.
I follow Fox pretty religiously and I agree with t... (show quote)

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