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Apr 26, 2015 12:22:41   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Half of Americans believe this stuff. Can you believe it?

“Well, after 12 million new jobs, a stock market that has more than doubled, deficits that have been cut by two-thirds, health care inflation at the lowest rate in nearly 50 years, manufacturing coming back, auto industry coming back, clean energy doubled — I’ve come not only to answer that question, but I want to return to the debate that is central to this country, and the alternative economic theory that’s presented by the other side,” the president said in Cleveland.

50 percent of America now saying in the latest CNN poll that his presidency is a success. The other half say a failure.

And now obamacare is becoming more popular to the point where the GOP is trying to figure out how to extend obamacare if scotus k**ls the subsidy in June.

Next, rinos will become democrat, believe that government intervention in the economy works and give up on the core belief that tax cuts are the only way to stimulate jobs and economy.

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Apr 26, 2015 12:43:45   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Half of Americans believe this stuff. Can you believe it?

“Well, after 12 million new jobs, a stock market that has more than doubled, deficits that have been cut by two-thirds, health care inflation at the lowest rate in nearly 50 years, manufacturing coming back, auto industry coming back, clean energy doubled — I’ve come not only to answer that question, but I want to return to the debate that is central to this country, and the alternative economic theory that’s presented by the other side,” the president said in Cleveland.

50 percent of America now saying in the latest CNN poll that his presidency is a success. The other half say a failure.

And now obamacare is becoming more popular to the point where the GOP is trying to figure out how to extend obamacare if scotus k**ls the subsidy in June.

Next, rinos will become democrat, believe that government intervention in the economy works and give up on the core belief that tax cuts are the only way to stimulate jobs and economy.
Half of Americans believe this stuff. Can you bel... (show quote)


Where are the jobs? Here is the answer:

Here is Paul Ryan, Chairman of the House, Ways and Means Committee on the - TPA - Congress has Trade Promotion Authority

4/25/2015 Weekly Republican Address: Paul Ryan (R-WI)

This is better than "Fast Track" which is so dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?Source=GovD&v=mOEUD6YYzLk

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Apr 26, 2015 12:49:38   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
More government control and socialist intervention they believe works. The free market is gone away. They're all rinos in congress now.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Where are the jobs? Here is the answer:

Here is Paul Ryan, Chairman of the House, Ways and Means Committee on the - TPA - Congress has Trade Promotion Authority

4/25/2015 Weekly Republican Address: Paul Ryan (R-WI)

This is better than "Fast Track" which is so dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?Source=GovD&v=mOEUD6YYzLk

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Apr 26, 2015 12:49:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Half of Americans believe this stuff. Can you believe it?

“Well, after 12 million new jobs, a stock market that has more than doubled, deficits that have been cut by two-thirds, health care inflation at the lowest rate in nearly 50 years, manufacturing coming back, auto industry coming back, clean energy doubled — I’ve come not only to answer that question, but I want to return to the debate that is central to this country, and the alternative economic theory that’s presented by the other side,” the president said in Cleveland.

50 percent of America now saying in the latest CNN poll that his presidency is a success. The other half say a failure.

And now obamacare is becoming more popular to the point where the GOP is trying to figure out how to extend obamacare if scotus k**ls the subsidy in June.

Next, rinos will become democrat, believe that government intervention in the economy works and give up on the core belief that tax cuts are the only way to stimulate jobs and economy.
Half of Americans believe this stuff. Can you bel... (show quote)


RINOs are ALREADY Democrats; the miracle would be if they started acting like Republicans.

Most of those new jobs are part time, and would you like to guess how many are being filled by wetbacks?

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Apr 26, 2015 12:52:36   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
When will it be popular again to get government out of the way? Even the rinos are running over each other to give more power to either congress directly or to some government bureaucracy.

Loki wrote:
RINOs are ALREADY Democrats; the miracle would be if they started acting like Republicans.

Most of those new jobs are part time, and would you like to guess how many are being filled by wetbacks?

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Apr 26, 2015 12:55:48   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
It not about jobs. It's about control. With his TPA idea giving HIM more power as the chair of the committee.

No one has heard this before or that it's a problem but changing it will give him a lot of power.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Where are the jobs? Here is the answer:

Here is Paul Ryan, Chairman of the House, Ways and Means Committee on the - TPA - Congress has Trade Promotion Authority

4/25/2015 Weekly Republican Address: Paul Ryan (R-WI)

This is better than "Fast Track" which is so dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?Source=GovD&v=mOEUD6YYzLk

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Apr 26, 2015 13:57:04   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
UncleJesse wrote:
More government control and socialist intervention they believe works. The free market is gone away. They're all rinos in congress now.


The US Constitution puts Congress in control of approving treaties and trade bills. The TPA bill, which just passed the House, restores this authority to Congress. Would you please take the time to listen to Paul Ryan explaining this bill to the people so we might pressure the Senate to also pass it?

Trade Promotion Authority bill
House just passed this TPA (Trade Promotion Authority Bill) Senate must approve
Open markets to American products. 96% of consumers live in other contries.
Make and grow things at home in America and then sell them abroad, bringing American industry back home.
Congress must approve trade agreements level the playing field for USA workers businesses to remain at home and sell overseas.
Holds Administration accountable, puts Congress in the dirvers seat
1) Tears down barriers for US products overseas and enforces our intellectual properties
2) Congress must read this negotiating bill
3) Publish full text to these negotiated trade treaties for all Americans to read.
President cannot negotiate trade agreements with TPA congressional consent.

It upsets me that you would not even take the time to look at this You Tube clip above.

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Apr 26, 2015 13:59:19   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Loki wrote:
RINOs are ALREADY Democrats; the miracle would be if they started acting like Republicans.

Most of those new jobs are part time, and would you like to guess how many are being filled by wetbacks?


Would you also please look at this TPA bill that just passed the House by watching Paul Ryan (Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee) on this You Tube clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?Source=GovD&v=mOEUD6YYzLk

This Trade Promotion Authority puts Congress and the people back in control of these trade agreements, reigning in rogue presidents that throw American jobs overseas. Even the labor unions should be jumping for joy.

Stop complaining and do your homework!

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Apr 26, 2015 14:12:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Would you also please look at this TPA bill that just passed the House by watching Paul Ryan (Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee) on this You Tube clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?Source=GovD&v=mOEUD6YYzLk

This Trade Promotion Authority puts Congress and the people back in control of these trade agreements, reigning in rogue presidents that throw American jobs overseas. Even the labor unions should be jumping for joy.

Stop complaining and do your homework!
Would you also please look at this TPA bill that j... (show quote)


From NumbersUSA.org:

WE JOIN UNIONS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND MORE IN BROAD COALITION AGAINST THREAT OF ANTI-WORKER TRADE BILL


UPDATED: Tue, APR 21st 2015 @ 10:11 am EDT by Roy Beck
We are opposing the corporate lobbies, Pres. Obama and Republican congressional leaders who together are trying to pass a Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) bill that would likely lead to cutting the American people out of future decisions about certain flows of foreign workers.

We have a chance for victory primarily because most Democrats in Congress appear ready to side against Pres. Obama and for American workers. We need to work to hold as many Democrats as possible while creating a majority against the bill by persuading enough Republicans to side against the corporate lobbies and for American workers.

We have sent notices to every Member of Congress that read:

NumbersUSA will score a v**e for Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) as a v**e against American workers.

President Obama has made it abundantly clear that he believes he has virtually unfettered authority to change U.S. i*********n l*w. It should not be surprising, therefore, that his administration is attempting to use the T***s-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement to commit America to immigration increases that Congress has neither debated nor approved. Despite a U.S. labor force participation rate that is at its lowest level since 1978, President Obama wants to use the TPP to further reduce the jobs available to U.S. workers and instead reserve certain jobs for foreign workers under the agreement. It is indefensible that Congress would now consider surrendering even more of its authority over immigration to this President in order to fast track a trade agreement that will harm American workers, and the text of which Congress has not even seen. Therefore, NumbersUSA will score a v**e for TPA as a v**e for continued executive overreach and a v**e against American workers.

V**e NO on TPA
Committees in both chambers are set to v**e on this any day. A bill could arrive on the floor of the Senate and House soon after.

Why is NumbersUSA, an organization that deals only with immigration issues, involved in a complicated battle over trade policy?

Hundreds of organizations of all kinds of ideologies and interests (unions, environmental, national sovereignty, civil liberties, populist and more) are opposing the trade bill for many different reasons.

OUR REASON: The consequence of passing fast-track trade authority is that any President can much more easily ram through international trade agreements that expand guest worker programs without any public debate.

That's what happened under Pres. Bush during the five years he was given fast-track trade authority. His Administration secretly negotiated trade agreements that guaranteed the opportunity for other countries to send certain numbers of their workers to take U.S. jobs. Congress was not allowed to amend the agreements in any way. It either had to approve the whole thing or to reject it entirely and throw international trade concerns into a tizzy.

Once a flow of foreign workers is included in a trade treaty, that takes away the ability of future White Houses and Congresses to change those numbers. Instead of the officials elected by the American people having control over immigration and foreign-worker policies, international courts basically are given control over the work visas written into trade agreements.

Our Constitution gives Congress authority over how many immigrants and work authorizations to approve each year.
Our Constitution doesn't give that authority to the President, but fast-track trade legislation essentially does.
Our Constitution doesn't give foreign powers and entities the authority over U.S. work permits to foreign workers, but fast-track trade authority essentially does.
In 2007, Congress declined to renew the fast-track trade authority for Presidents, allowing it to expire.

In 2003 in reaction to the Bush Administration including immigration in trade agreements, Congress objected with a strongly worded resolution that was approved UNANIMOUSLY. The resolution began:


Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that (1) trade agreements are not the appropriate vehicle for enacting immigration-related laws or modifying current immigration policy; and
(2) future trade agreements to which the United States is a party and the legislation implementing the agreements should not contain immigration-related provisions.
The U.S. Trade Representative and the Executive Branch have been on notice since 2003 that they do not have the authority to negotiate immigration provisions in free trade agreements.

Nonetheless, the Obama Administration has been doing just that with the T***s-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement that is expected to come up soon.

Here is what was reported this week in The Hill newspaper:


TPP's provisions are largely secret but, according to Curtis Ellis of the American Jobs Alliance, the U.S. Trade Representative revealed that "temporary entry" guest worker visas are a "key feature" of the pact. Ellis said that Obama Administration previously used the U.S.-South Korea trade pact to expand the length of time a L-1 visa holder can work in the U.S. That pact is viewed as a model for negotiating the TPP.
NumbersUSA and its national network of citizen activists were often part of coalitions opposing the Bush abuses of trade agreements. And we were in the middle of pressures that led to the congressional pushback in 2003.

Remaining consistent, our network today is mobilized to stop Obama abuses of trade agreements that would guarantee that certain numbers of U.S. jobs may not be held by American workers.

ROY BECK is President & Founder of NumbersUSA

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Apr 26, 2015 14:19:03   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
What are you crazy? I did watch it! You liar.

When politicians claim that TPA is “good bipartisanship" it means increasing protectionism and government control. Now a deal can't even be made between the president and Israel for a quick trade to an imminent threat like needing to fund the iron dome when they saw Hamas had a bunch of rockets from Iran. Instead, the new TPA says it has to have a six month prior written approval to congress or it is illegal.

TPA deals with notification and oversight by Congress. There has been significant controversy from the Left over how much access members of Congress or civil society groups have to review negotiating proposals and drafts and to have their concerns heard by U.S. negotiators.

Now it looks like the lefties are turning the rinos. More rules - - over 100 pages of them - - to gum up the process and pressure negotiators to water down deals to appease protectionist and liberal constituencies. And they're all mainly liberal political agenda things.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
The US Constitution puts Congress in control of approving treaties and trade bills. The TPA bill, which just passed the House, restores this authority to Congress. Would you please take the time to listen to Paul Ryan explaining this bill to the people so we might pressure the Senate to also pass it?

Trade Promotion Authority bill
House just passed this TPA (Trade Promotion Authority Bill) Senate must approve
Open markets to American products. 96% of consumers live in other contries.
Make and grow things at home in America and then sell them abroad, bringing American industry back home.
Congress must approve trade agreements level the playing field for USA workers businesses to remain at home and sell overseas.
Holds Administration accountable, puts Congress in the dirvers seat
1) Tears down barriers for US products overseas and enforces our intellectual properties
2) Congress must read this negotiating bill
3) Publish full text to these negotiated trade treaties for all Americans to read.
President cannot negotiate trade agreements with TPA congressional consent.

It upsets me that you would not even take the time to look at this You Tube clip above.
The US Constitution puts Congress in control of ap... (show quote)

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Apr 26, 2015 14:21:50   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Loki wrote:
From NumbersUSA.org:

WE JOIN UNIONS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND MORE IN BROAD COALITION AGAINST THREAT OF ANTI-WORKER TRADE BILL


UPDATED: Tue, APR 21st 2015 @ 10:11 am EDT by Roy Beck
We are opposing the corporate lobbies, Pres. Obama and Republican congressional leaders who together are trying to pass a Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) bill that would likely lead to cutting the American people out of future decisions about certain flows of foreign workers.

We have a chance for victory primarily because most Democrats in Congress appear ready to side against Pres. Obama and for American workers. We need to work to hold as many Democrats as possible while creating a majority against the bill by persuading enough Republicans to side against the corporate lobbies and for American workers.

We have sent notices to every Member of Congress that read:

NumbersUSA will score a v**e for Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) as a v**e against American workers.

President Obama has made it abundantly clear that he believes he has virtually unfettered authority to change U.S. i*********n l*w. It should not be surprising, therefore, that his administration is attempting to use the T***s-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement to commit America to immigration increases that Congress has neither debated nor approved. Despite a U.S. labor force participation rate that is at its lowest level since 1978, President Obama wants to use the TPP to further reduce the jobs available to U.S. workers and instead reserve certain jobs for foreign workers under the agreement. It is indefensible that Congress would now consider surrendering even more of its authority over immigration to this President in order to fast track a trade agreement that will harm American workers, and the text of which Congress has not even seen. Therefore, NumbersUSA will score a v**e for TPA as a v**e for continued executive overreach and a v**e against American workers.

V**e NO on TPA
Committees in both chambers are set to v**e on this any day. A bill could arrive on the floor of the Senate and House soon after.

Why is NumbersUSA, an organization that deals only with immigration issues, involved in a complicated battle over trade policy?

Hundreds of organizations of all kinds of ideologies and interests (unions, environmental, national sovereignty, civil liberties, populist and more) are opposing the trade bill for many different reasons.

OUR REASON: The consequence of passing fast-track trade authority is that any President can much more easily ram through international trade agreements that expand guest worker programs without any public debate.

That's what happened under Pres. Bush during the five years he was given fast-track trade authority. His Administration secretly negotiated trade agreements that guaranteed the opportunity for other countries to send certain numbers of their workers to take U.S. jobs. Congress was not allowed to amend the agreements in any way. It either had to approve the whole thing or to reject it entirely and throw international trade concerns into a tizzy.

Once a flow of foreign workers is included in a trade treaty, that takes away the ability of future White Houses and Congresses to change those numbers. Instead of the officials elected by the American people having control over immigration and foreign-worker policies, international courts basically are given control over the work visas written into trade agreements.

Our Constitution gives Congress authority over how many immigrants and work authorizations to approve each year.
Our Constitution doesn't give that authority to the President, but fast-track trade legislation essentially does.
Our Constitution doesn't give foreign powers and entities the authority over U.S. work permits to foreign workers, but fast-track trade authority essentially does.
In 2007, Congress declined to renew the fast-track trade authority for Presidents, allowing it to expire.

In 2003 in reaction to the Bush Administration including immigration in trade agreements, Congress objected with a strongly worded resolution that was approved UNANIMOUSLY. The resolution began:


Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that (1) trade agreements are not the appropriate vehicle for enacting immigration-related laws or modifying current immigration policy; and
(2) future trade agreements to which the United States is a party and the legislation implementing the agreements should not contain immigration-related provisions.
The U.S. Trade Representative and the Executive Branch have been on notice since 2003 that they do not have the authority to negotiate immigration provisions in free trade agreements.

Nonetheless, the Obama Administration has been doing just that with the T***s-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement that is expected to come up soon.

Here is what was reported this week in The Hill newspaper:


TPP's provisions are largely secret but, according to Curtis Ellis of the American Jobs Alliance, the U.S. Trade Representative revealed that "temporary entry" guest worker visas are a "key feature" of the pact. Ellis said that Obama Administration previously used the U.S.-South Korea trade pact to expand the length of time a L-1 visa holder can work in the U.S. That pact is viewed as a model for negotiating the TPP.
NumbersUSA and its national network of citizen activists were often part of coalitions opposing the Bush abuses of trade agreements. And we were in the middle of pressures that led to the congressional pushback in 2003.

Remaining consistent, our network today is mobilized to stop Obama abuses of trade agreements that would guarantee that certain numbers of U.S. jobs may not be held by American workers.

ROY BECK is President & Founder of NumbersUSA
From NumbersUSA.org: br br WE JOIN UNIONS, ENVIRO... (show quote)


Damn these crooked lying unions. TPA is not TPP., nor is it Fast Track. The Trade Promotion Authority restores Congressional, workers and businesses input on these trade treaties. This will restore fair trade, where our businesses and workers remain at home and sell abroad, making these foreign markets open up to our business.

Please, please watch this You Tube video of Paul Ryan explaining TPA and turn off the AFL-CIO International union lackeys in China c****e propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOEUD6YYzLk

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Apr 26, 2015 14:29:29   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
UncleJesse wrote:
What are you crazy? I did watch it! You liar.

When politicians claim that TPA is “good bipartisanship" it means increasing protectionism and government control. Now a deal can't even be made between the president and Israel for a quick trade to an imminent threat like needing to fund the iron dome when they saw Hamas had a bunch of rockets from Iran. Instead, the new TPA says it has to have a six month prior written approval to congress or it is illegal.

TPA deals with notification and oversight by Congress. There has been significant controversy from the Left over how much access members of Congress or civil society groups have to review negotiating proposals and drafts and to have their concerns heard by U.S. negotiators.

Now it looks like the lefties are turning the rinos. More rules - - over 100 pages of them - - to gum up the process and pressure negotiators to water down deals to appease protectionist and liberal constituencies. And they're all mainly liberal political agenda things.
What are you crazy? I did watch it! You liar. br... (show quote)


Totally ridiculous. National defense will not be tied up in TPA. You know that. Did you really watch that video? CR does not lie, neither does Paul Ryan. You are the one in favor of China controlling the world market, shutting out US competition, and you want to promote socialism. Ryan is not a Red.

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Apr 26, 2015 14:42:23   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
It's quite the opposite. If Mississippi farmers want to sell their rice to China, let them without government interference of blocking it because some congressional committee chair reviewing it after six months doesn't like the human rights infraction being done by some Chinese policeman on Nepali monks.

The new focus is primarily on liberalizing other countries’ laws to boost U.S. exports. That may sound good for libs but it interferes with free trade.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Totally ridiculous. National defense will not be tied up in TPA. You know that. Did you really watch that video? CR does not lie, neither does Paul Ryan. You are the one in favor of China controlling the world market, shutting out US competition, and you want to promote socialism. Ryan is not a Red.

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Apr 26, 2015 17:52:16   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
UncleJesse wrote:
It's quite the opposite. If Mississippi farmers want to sell their rice to China, let them without government interference of blocking it because some congressional committee chair reviewing it after six months doesn't like the human rights infraction being done by some Chinese policeman on Nepali monks.

The new focus is primarily on liberalizing other countries’ laws to boost U.S. exports. That may sound good for libs but it interferes with free trade.


We have restrictions on trading with the enemy. You want to sell your rice to China, or North Korea or Iran with no regard for our laws? I think you are being very unrealistic. Perhaps you would like to exchange our military secrets, copyrights or industrial patents for campaign contributions when you run for office?

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Apr 26, 2015 19:32:20   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Paul Ryan's ideas seem to end up being a loser or vetoed.

Mr. Genius believed in balancing the budget by making senior citizens give up medicare, buy their own private insurance policy and then the following year he'd give them a tax credit they could write-off the amount on their income. He believed in it so much, it wouldn't officially start until 2024, after he's had ten years to find a safe hide-away from mobs of angry citizens. Even the other rino's are embarrassed by the idea.

He gave up so much to the libs in order to pass the budget the libs nicknamed him Rinoway.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
We have restrictions on trading with the enemy. You want to sell your rice to China, or North Korea or Iran with no regard for our laws? I think you are being very unrealistic. Perhaps you would like to exchange our military secrets, copyrights or industrial patents for campaign contributions when you run for office?

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