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Apr 18, 2015 08:17:40   #
jelun
 
Giving credit where credit is due.
Many representatives of Christian organizations (and others) have stepped up to the proverbial plate and declared these actions unacceptable.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2015/04/s**t-shaming_moron_preacher_brother_dean_harasses_tempe_mosque.php?page=2


S**t-Shaming" Preacher Harasses Tempe Mosque, Tears Up Quran
By Stephen Lemons Fri., Apr. 17 2015 at 11:52 AM 5 Comments
I h**e giving morons free publicity, but sometimes it's necessary to spotlight the stupid as a sort of public service.

Such is the case with Tucson's notorious "s**t-shaming" street preacher Brother Dean Saxton, who has garnered attention in the past by blasting University of Arizona coeds for wearing revealing clothing and therefore, in his cretinous opinion, deserving of rape.

Seems Saxton has been making the trek to Tempe recently to stand outside of the Islamic Community Center on Fridays (the Muslim day of worship), yell at people and tell them they will burn in hell.

He's even taken to tearing up a Quran in an effort to provoke a fight with worshippers, as you can see in this video, shot last Friday by members of the Tempe mosque.

"You guys are phonies," Saxton shouted from the sidewalk, as he ripped pages from Islam's holy book. "If you guys were real Muslims, you would k**l me just for being an infidel. Not only am I an infidel, I desecrate the Quran."

Saxton also brought along a half-dozen other brain surgeons, some of whom held signs with such pearls of wisdom as "Muhammad is a liar, false prophet, murderer, child-molesting pervert."

Sure, the First Amendment protects Saxton as long as he remains on the sidewalk, but can you imagine what would occur if someone did the same thing to a Christian congregation, standing outside a chuch shouting invective while tearing up a Bible?

According to Liban Yousuf, spokesman for the Arizona branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Tempe mosque pretty much has been ignoring Saxton, who's appeared at the mosque every Friday for the last six weeks.

But since Saxton has been able to rally a few sympathizers of late, the mosque felt it needed to go public.


I think this "gentleman" wants to die and is too timid to do the dirty deed himself. If someone taunts people about not k*****g them are they not inciting to violence those people?
It is wonderful to see that the community is rallying around this group.

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Apr 18, 2015 09:40:23   #
Missouri Loc: Cherokee Reservation
 
jelun wrote:
Giving credit where credit is due.
Many representatives of Christian organizations (and others) have stepped up to the proverbial plate and declared these actions unacceptable.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2015/04/s**t-shaming_moron_preacher_brother_dean_harasses_tempe_mosque.php?page=2


S**t-Shaming" Preacher Harasses Tempe Mosque, Tears Up Quran
By Stephen Lemons Fri., Apr. 17 2015 at 11:52 AM 5 Comments
I h**e giving morons free publicity, but sometimes it's necessary to spotlight the stupid as a sort of public service.

Such is the case with Tucson's notorious "s**t-shaming" street preacher Brother Dean Saxton, who has garnered attention in the past by blasting University of Arizona coeds for wearing revealing clothing and therefore, in his cretinous opinion, deserving of rape.

Seems Saxton has been making the trek to Tempe recently to stand outside of the Islamic Community Center on Fridays (the Muslim day of worship), yell at people and tell them they will burn in hell.

He's even taken to tearing up a Quran in an effort to provoke a fight with worshippers, as you can see in this video, shot last Friday by members of the Tempe mosque.

"You guys are phonies," Saxton shouted from the sidewalk, as he ripped pages from Islam's holy book. "If you guys were real Muslims, you would k**l me just for being an infidel. Not only am I an infidel, I desecrate the Quran."

Saxton also brought along a half-dozen other brain surgeons, some of whom held signs with such pearls of wisdom as "Muhammad is a liar, false prophet, murderer, child-molesting pervert."

Sure, the First Amendment protects Saxton as long as he remains on the sidewalk, but can you imagine what would occur if someone did the same thing to a Christian congregation, standing outside a chuch shouting invective while tearing up a Bible?

According to Liban Yousuf, spokesman for the Arizona branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Tempe mosque pretty much has been ignoring Saxton, who's appeared at the mosque every Friday for the last six weeks.

But since Saxton has been able to rally a few sympathizers of late, the mosque felt it needed to go public.


I think this "gentleman" wants to die and is too timid to do the dirty deed himself. If someone taunts people about not k*****g them are they not inciting to violence those people?
It is wonderful to see that the community is rallying around this group.
Giving credit where credit is due. br Many repres... (show quote)




Hope you will read your Bible.
Try the New Testament.. The Gospels.
Jesus teaches us LOVE.... Forgiveness.. Peace...

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Apr 18, 2015 09:56:48   #
jelun
 
Missouri wrote:
Hope you will read your Bible.
Try the New Testament.. The Gospels.
Jesus teaches us LOVE.... Forgiveness.. Peace...




Jesus and his lessons are long gone.
Just read the so-called Christians on this website and you will agree.

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Apr 18, 2015 11:29:14   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Perhaps in the new world orchestrated and embraced by liberals the words of Jesus is obsolete, but his message will remain in the hearts and minds of those who have given their lives into his protection. His words will never go away and neither will true Christians. They may, as we did, have to go into hiding or teach one another in secrecy when the new world order finally consumes the morals of the USA, but they have endured worse in the past 2,000 plus years. This too shall pass.

jelun wrote:
Jesus and his lessons are long gone.
Just read the so-called Christians on this website and you will agree.

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Apr 18, 2015 11:35:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Perhaps in the new world orchestrated and embraced by liberals the words of Jesus is obsolete, but his message will remain in the hearts and minds of those who have given their lives into his protection. His words will never go away and neither will true Christians. They may, as we did, have to go into hiding or teach one another in secrecy when the new world order finally consumes the morals of the USA, but they have endured worse in the past 2,000 plus years. This too shall pass.


Torah vs Talmud, A warning to Christians.

A refresher is in order:
Quotes from the Babylonian Talmud:
Here are some very enlightening 13 (thirteen) quotes below from the Babylonian Talmud and other commentaries and tracts I cite from such as the Zohar, Aruch, Yalkut, Tosefta, Soferim, etc., besides the Gaza and Palestine Map and Talmudic quotes by Stuart Wilde he makes in his article below, which shows the centuries long mentality driving the Talmudic Z*****ts of the current debacle and the massacre occurring there, plus chronicles the 64 year decades long land-grabbing fiasco and why they don't really want peace as they claim, except "peace" - i.e., in the sense of the absence of opposition to them such as in the old red c*******t Soviet Union Bolshevik style meaning of the word "peace", viz, "c*******t 'peace' ".

Please note especially the highlighted in bold Talmudic numerical references quotes I make below of #4, #5, #8 and #10. They show hard evidence of what I have been saying for years that the Talmudic Z*****t Kaballastic Pharisee Jews have infiltrated Christianity and influenced and distorted Christian doctrine for at least since the time of the 2nd century C.E. with the Babylonian Gnostic Kaballistic doctrine of Marcion the Heretic and the lingering Spirit of Marcionism until this very day in Christian and Catholic seminaries worldwide by infiltrating their priesthood and leadership as high level 33 degree+ Master Masons, Kaballists, hidden Gnostics, Jesuits and other Illuminati-Satanist types infiltrated at the very top since the original Apostles of Yahshua all died out. They did this to change the doctrine Yahshua taught of Law AND Grace together into a licentious Grace-only doctrine of demons to destroy the application of the Torah/Law for blessings upon the non-Jew "goyim" believers in Yahshua HaMashiyach by further distorting the words and teachings of Paul and then de-emphasizing Yahshua and the rest of the Apostles of Yahshua.

The Talmudic influence on Christianity to distort and undermine and eventually supplant the then mainstream faith of the original Apostolic Nazarene Torah believers of Yahshua's and the Apostles' original Hebrew Nazarene - Israel Torah-Grace oriented Ecclesia/Assembly is thus not only strongly hinted at but the evidence becomes overwhelming this indeed did happen with the introduction of "Pauline Christianity" by certain disciples of Paul distorting his teachings after his death and even before then. Pursuit of this investigative line opens up amazing pictures of and insight into this infiltration of Talmudists into not only Catholicism and all subsequent denominations of Christianity and churchianity, but also later even Mohammedanism, and even still later Mormonism and other false religions and cults too numerous to mention here, and all of this being concealed from the innocent followers.

They did this by making it "forbidden" for anyone of the "goyim", to teach, be taught, learn or study the Torah so that he could learn its "secrets" and be blessed by YHWH for obedience to it. They wanted to strip any of the "goy " from obtaining blessings of keeping of the precepts and commandments of Torah so that they, these r****t Talmudical Pharaisical Jews of the Synagogue of Satan that Yahshua condemned, could reserve these blessings from the Father Yahweh ONLY for themselves, because, after all, they're the "exclusive chosen race", and hence they also invented the alleged 7 Noahide Laws for ONLY the Christian "goyim".

And most Christians in their blindness of the masses and naivete, simply trust in their leaders and pastors like "dumb sheep" or the "goyim/cattle" and just go along with it and fall for it, being seduced by words and they simply parrot what their leaders and false shepherds say without being able to think for themselves, being under a demonic kaballistic trance, enchantment or spell in a zombie-like state.

That is the sad state that most Christians are in today, being taken in as fools and ens***ed by these master long hidden wolves in sheep's clothing anti-Christ/Mashiyach Talmudists hard at work in their religion and churches everywhere, but vainly imagining that they are "saved" and walking rightly in the original Faith and doctrines of Yahshua HaMashiyach. But continuing to willfully sin wholesale against the Torah after initially repenting and accepting Yahshua's Salvation while falsely believing that Yahshua's victory at Calvary now gives them license to continue sinning and engage "after their salvation experience" in all kinds of paganism and debauchery in a life of disobedience and non-observance to Yahweh's Torah/Laws, precepts and principles of judgment and justice and worship as He dictates.

And so then, they live as they please instead thinking they shall escape judgment, after all "the law is done away with" they reason in their own debauched drugged up dumbed down minds, and now "eternal salvation is "easy faith" and "easy belief" and "guaranteed" and "once saved always saved" and "you're OK if you still want to or continue to sin" " is the lies they are constantly told and continually keep parroting to themselves and to others as the parrots they are. May Yahweh cause them as the blind and the deaf to see and hear and then repent and have mercy on their souls.

Adolph Hitler once said keep telling a lie often enough and the people will come to believe that the lie is the t***h. How sad, but true it is. As a master of enchantment he was certainly onto something.

And as the article on Marcion in the above web link states: "One discovery is that the popularity of the Scofield Reference Bible has also contributed to the thriving of the spirit of Marcion in churches today. According to Botkin, several of Scofield’s notes strongly suggest a Marcionite view of Law and Grace and a reader of the notes is left with the impression that Law and Grace are mutually exclusive. "

Thus in this way, many of these naive "Grace-only" believers become either witting or unwitting dupes and agents or hasbarim for the Babylonian Talmudists Z*****ts seduced into becoming advocates for and advocating their theology and agenda, even though they may say or even think or publish information that they are vehemently opposed to the Talmudic Z*****ts. Yet the insincere witting dupe and hasbara agent among them will actually hold to the exact opposite view and secretly support the Babylonian Talmudist Z*****ts in their agenda and vigorously promote their agenda and goal to destroy the Torah/Law blessings for the obedient non-Jew "goyim" believers in Yahshua/Jesus by deliberately propagating such false gospel of the law being done away with allegedly while actually hypocritically and secretly practicing or believing in it themselves.

This is the old Talmudic origin Kaballastic enchanting demonic Hegelian Dialectic trick of Stalin's infamy saying he "will destroy the opposition by joining them as "false opposition" to the "established order" while pretending to be in agreement with them as the opposition but secretly working against them in order to undermine their movement, or in this case, the Faith/Belief/Principlesof Divine Law/Practices of the Believer of Yahweh/Yahshua HaMashiyach.

This process of seduction and abduction of the Faith of the Faithful/emunah believers has been going on for centuries but the unwitting initially ignorant "innocent" dupe who has been informed of the error of their ways but continues on in such does just as much damage to the Faith and to the innocent lambs of the Body of Mashiyach harming their souls as the witting insincere deliberate ones do, and both will be ultimately held accountable by the Almighty Yahweh Himself.

Now please read the 13 Talmudic references below which I mentioned above with special attention and emphasis onto the highlighted in bold Talmudic numerical references quotes I make below of #4, #5, #8 and #10, and I believe you will very quickly see just exactly what I am talking about. This is serious heavy stuff but it is the T***h that must be presented by you to those with eyes to see and ears to hear IF you are fully immersed in the Ruach Kodesh/Holy Spirit AND a true believer in Yahshua HaMashiyach.



1. "The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses."- Rabbi Ismael, Rabbi Chambar, et. al.

2. "The decisions of the Talmud are the words of the living God. Jehovah Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven." - Rabbi Menachem Commentary on Fifth Book.

3. "Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for that book."-Tract Mechilla.

4. "It is more wicked to question the words of the rabbis than that of the Torah."- Michna Sanhedryn 11:3.

5. "It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the Torah/Law. He who would do it would be as guilty as though he destroyed the whole world." - Jektut Chadasz, 171, 3.

6. "Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die." - Sanhedryn, 59a, Aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga

7. "To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the k*****g of all Jews, for if they knew what we teach about them they would k**l us openly." - Libbre David 37.

8. "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." Libbre David 37.

9. "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."-Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17.

10. "R. Johanan said: A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death, for it is written, Moses commanded us a law for an inheritance; it is our inheritance, not theirs. Then why is this not included in the Noachian laws? -- On the reading morasha [an inheritance] he steals it; on the reading me'orasah [betrothed], he is guilty as one who violates a betrothed maiden, who is stoned. An objection is raised: R. Meir used to say. Whence do we know that even a heathen who studies the Torah is as a High Priest? From the verse, "[Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments:] which, if man do, he shall live in them". Priests, Levites, and Israelites are not mentioned, but men: hence thou mayest learn that even a heathen who studies the Torah is as a High Priest! -- That refers to their own seven laws."-Sanhedrin 59a [My commentary -- Here is the absolute proof of what I have said about the Babylonian Pharisee synagogue of Satan Talmudic Jews have infiltrated and subverted the original Apostolic doctrine of Nazarene Israelite and Hebrew Christian churches and assemblies and have been caught red-handed here in admitting "straight from the horse's mouth" that they have been engaged in a satanic conspiracy against the Most High Elohim and His Son's Redemptive Work for centuries by changing it into a Grace-only doctrine of demons instead of Law AND Grace: This section in Sanhedrin 59a is actually saying that the religion/faith of Christianity, i.e., "the heathen", or non-Jew "goyim" must be subverted and undermined and suppressed at all costs in their religious faith and practice from studying and learning the Torah/Law and prevented from carrying it out and practicing it, even to the point of their being executed to death by stoning or wh**ever means available, because otherwise they are thieves who will rob and "steal" their "inheritance" of the Torah which belongs to "only them", the Jews, and not "heathen men" in general", and thereby these "heathen men" would be blessed by Yahweh and shall then live and prosper eternally instead of "them", the Jews. A real wacko paranoid schizophrenic spirits New World Order conspiracy case of "us" vs "them" mentality--JLS]

11. "The Jews are human beings , but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."-Baba Mecia 114, 6 [i.e.: 114b].

12. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and commanded to serve the Jew day and night." - Midrasch Talpioth, p225-L.

13. As soon as the King Messiah will declare himself, He will destroy Rome and make a wilderness of it. Thorns and weeds will grow in the Pope's palace.
Then He will start a merciless war on non-Jews and will overpower them. He will slay them in masses, k**l their kings and lay waste the whole Roman land. He will say to the Jews:'I am the King Messiah for whom you have been waiting. Take the Silver and Gold from the Goyim.'" - Josiah 60, 6 Rabbi Abarbanel to Daniel 7, 13.

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Apr 18, 2015 11:50:52   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
I prefer not to use the "quote reply" on a piece that long. Can't help but notice, however, how much like the Koran it sounds. HMmmm...?

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Apr 18, 2015 11:57:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Wickedness comes in more than 1 flavor.

dennisimoto wrote:
I prefer not to use the "quote reply" on a piece that long. Can't help but notice, however, how much like the Koran it sounds. HMmmm...?

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Apr 18, 2015 12:01:24   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
The Bible also teaches to beware of your enemies. Do not be unwitting accomplices of treachery.

jelun wrote:
Jesus and his lessons are long gone.
Just read the so-called Christians on this website and you will agree.

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Apr 18, 2015 12:05:56   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
jelun wrote:
Jesus and his lessons are long gone.
Just read the so-called Christians on this website and you will agree.


If JESUS and HIS sayings and teachings are long gone why do you liberals make every attempt to ban HIM from everything? Because deep down even the foolish know HE is the WAY! If liberals weren't petrified of HIM the ten commandments wouldn't bother you h*****g in a court house. Islam is as phony as the majority of liberals that's why Islam doesn't bother any of you. If JESUS isn't a threat to you why make a big deal out of HIS outdated teachings?

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Apr 18, 2015 12:08:54   #
gapamen Loc: North Carolina
 
MajorAhrens wrote:
If JESUS and HIS sayings and teachings are long gone why do you liberals make every attempt to ban HIM from everything? Because deep down even the foolish know HE is the WAY! If liberals weren't petrified of HIM the ten commandments wouldn't bother you h*****g in a court house. Islam is as phony a
s the majority of liberals that's why Islam doesn't bother any of you. If JESUS isn't a threat to you

why
make a big deal out of HIS outdated teachings?


:thumbdown:

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Apr 18, 2015 12:20:19   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You are very right. In fact what is quoted above and in many of his documents is the Talmud Bavli (Babylonian Talmud), composed in Babylonia (modern-day Iraq). And many of the quotes can be found in the Quran. The Talmud that is used by Jews is the Talmud Yerushalmi (Jerusalem Talmud), compiled in what is now northern Israel. The Talmud Eretz Yisrael (Talmud of the Land of Israel), is shorter than the Bavli. Not to say that all Jews use only the Talmud Yerushalmi , because there was a large Jewish presence in Babylonia in the early days. But, many of the "law" contained in that text reflect the issues and problems faced by Babylonians and when the Hebrews moved into the Israel, the circumstances and therefore the "laws" changed. Another way of explaining, when the US was settled, many of the English laws followed the settlers. But, as the nation evolved those laws from England were replaced or became obscure by the development of laws to manage the new world.

I could prepare a response to the member eagleye, but I have had nothing but negative experiences in trying to explain to him. This is probably due to his Muslim beliefs. Which he did not say in so many words but indicated when he replied to a remark I had made about fatigue, with a "thank Allah."

Good observation on your part.


dennisimoto wrote:
I prefer not to use the "quote reply" on a piece that long. Can't help but notice, however, how much like the Koran it sounds. HMmmm...?
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 18, 2015 12:23:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Very good question, and I do not think you will get a civil response.
MajorAhrens wrote:
If JESUS and HIS sayings and teachings are long gone why do you liberals make every attempt to ban HIM from everything? Because deep down even the foolish know HE is the WAY! If liberals weren't petrified of HIM the ten commandments wouldn't bother you h*****g in a court house. Islam is as phony as the majority of liberals that's why Islam doesn't bother any of you. If JESUS isn't a threat to you why make a big deal out of HIS outdated teachings?


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 18, 2015 12:25:59   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
jelun wrote:
Jesus and his lessons are long gone.
Just read the so-called Christians on this website and you will agree.


My neighbor's cat just tossed up a hairball....or...was that YOU?

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Apr 18, 2015 12:29:02   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
jelun wrote:
Giving credit where credit is due.
Many representatives of Christian organizations (and others) have stepped up to the proverbial plate and declared these actions unacceptable.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2015/04/s**t-shaming_moron_preacher_brother_dean_harasses_tempe_mosque.php?page=2


S**t-Shaming" Preacher Harasses Tempe Mosque, Tears Up Quran
By Stephen Lemons Fri., Apr. 17 2015 at 11:52 AM 5 Comments
I h**e giving morons free publicity, but sometimes it's necessary to spotlight the stupid as a sort of public service.

Such is the case with Tucson's notorious "s**t-shaming" street preacher Brother Dean Saxton, who has garnered attention in the past by blasting University of Arizona coeds for wearing revealing clothing and therefore, in his cretinous opinion, deserving of rape.

Seems Saxton has been making the trek to Tempe recently to stand outside of the Islamic Community Center on Fridays (the Muslim day of worship), yell at people and tell them they will burn in hell.

He's even taken to tearing up a Quran in an effort to provoke a fight with worshippers, as you can see in this video, shot last Friday by members of the Tempe mosque.

"You guys are phonies," Saxton shouted from the sidewalk, as he ripped pages from Islam's holy book. "If you guys were real Muslims, you would k**l me just for being an infidel. Not only am I an infidel, I desecrate the Quran."

Saxton also brought along a half-dozen other brain surgeons, some of whom held signs with such pearls of wisdom as "Muhammad is a liar, false prophet, murderer, child-molesting pervert."

Sure, the First Amendment protects Saxton as long as he remains on the sidewalk, but can you imagine what would occur if someone did the same thing to a Christian congregation, standing outside a chuch shouting invective while tearing up a Bible?

According to Liban Yousuf, spokesman for the Arizona branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Tempe mosque pretty much has been ignoring Saxton, who's appeared at the mosque every Friday for the last six weeks.

But since Saxton has been able to rally a few sympathizers of late, the mosque felt it needed to go public.


I think this "gentleman" wants to die and is too timid to do the dirty deed himself. If someone taunts people about not k*****g them are they not inciting to violence those people?
It is wonderful to see that the community is rallying around this group.
Giving credit where credit is due. br Many repres... (show quote)



I can bet you have some publication you read, "How to be a jerk wad in one easy lesson"........

Only one thing wrong about you...you are still alive.

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Apr 18, 2015 12:30:40   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
MajorAhrens wrote:
If JESUS and HIS sayings and teachings are long gone why do you liberals make every attempt to ban HIM from everything? Because deep down even the foolish know HE is the WAY! If liberals weren't petrified of HIM the ten commandments wouldn't bother you h*****g in a court house. Islam is as phony as the majority of liberals that's why Islam doesn't bother any of you. If JESUS isn't a threat to you why make a big deal out of HIS outdated teachings?


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