Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

An irate mom and her teenage niece were arrested after choking, punching and kicking a teacher unconscious inside a middle school in Hempstead, L.I., officials said.

Annika McKenzie, 34, allegedly ambushed a veteran math teacher at Alverta B. Gray Schultz Middle School on Wednesday after claiming the instructor "put her hands on" on McKenzie's 12-year-old daughter that day, Hempstead Village police said.

McKenzie reportedly walked past a security checkpoint and confronted Catherine Engelhardt, a 22-year veteran of the Hempstead School District, outside her classroom at 2 p.m., where she shoved the teacher against a wall, placed her in a headlock and then threw her to the floor in an incident caught on school surveillance.

"She's taught in the middle school for over 20 years. She's very passionate and committed about her job," fellow middle school teacher Elias Mestizo told the Daily News. "I was talking to parents today and all spoke highly of her."

He said McKenzie's daughter called her mom from school and not long after the mom put Engelhardt in a chokehold. The teacher lost consciousness for several minutes, Mestizo said.
Once on the ground, Engelhardt was punched and kicked by several students, including McKenzie's 14-year-old niece, police said.

"A juvenile female, relative of the adult, began to punch the teacher in the head," Hempstead Police Chief Michael McGowan told Newsday.

McKenzie was arraigned at Nassau County's First District Court on Thursday, charged with second-degree assault and strangulation. Bail was set at $5,000.

The niece, who was not named, has been charged as a minor.
And more teens could face discipline, according to reports. The investigation has been handed over to Nassau County police.

McKenzie could not be reached for comment.

"It's not like I thought a parent would do something, but I knew something violent was going to happen," Engelhardt told WABC Thursday night. "I've warned them time and again that the children have no respect for adults. Yes, I fear for my safety. They can't control the kids."

Engelhardt was treated and released at an area hospital.
But the violent assault brought calls for tighter security at Hempstead schools.

"Security did not ask for credentials, did not ask where she was going. She walked right by them," Mestizo, president of the Hempstead Classroom Teachers Association, told the Daily News.

"We have teachers saying for more than a year there's a systemic problem with security of district buildings," Mestizo added. "Teachers don't feel safe. Students don't feel safe."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teacher-choked-punched-kicked-irate-mom-cops-article-1.2188560

Do take the time to watch the video.

funguy1949

the real issue is, was this a sexual hands on or a desiaplian type hands on. That is the real issue.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I do not agree. There are ways of handling a situation without chocking a person half to death. And in the class room sits a standard for children to emulate.

CNN news says that the teacher never touched the child.

NBC has not run the story but here is the link to ABC http://6abc.com/news/adult-juvenile-arrested-after-ny-teacher-choked-inside-school/664132/.

It has happened, but women are not normally child molesters. I found a list of 120 women.....nation wide that has been arrested, not for necessarily child molestation, but for other actions such as sexual overtones in conversations, swearing at a child or in the presence of a child, slapping a child, or shoving. None of the reports on the teacher that was attacked say what kind of "hands on" so we will have to wait to see what comes out later.

funguy1949

Regardless of either way the parent is at fault for not going to the authority's. Now days kids from liberal family's are brainwashed to lie/c***t/bully others/even steal.I should know I have 2 liberal family's one on each side there kid's are always getting into trouble as well as the parents.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I was disappointed with the way this woman elected to handle the issue. And further when she encouraged other students to join in to repeatedly kick and hit the teacher as she was on the floor is shameful. This was both assault and battery.

I am sorry about the liberals in your family, but they are no reflection on you. Hang in there.... at times I think about our America in 100 years. The Me Generation kids raising those who are I Will Have children. Sad!!

Thank you for your comments.

funguy1949

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: 100%
Fully agree with you Penny

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

The teachers don't feel safe - from their students. The students don't feel safe - from other students.

This is a classic example of the lack of discipline and teaching personal responsibility. How can we expect children to act right, when their parents don't know how? There is no longer discipline anywhere anymore. No one can touch a child, for any reason, or they'll face molestation charges, assault charges, or who knows what else. Don't they realize that kids KNOW this and take advantage of it?

Regardless of the details of this incident, it is indicative of a larger, systemic failure of our education mechanism.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:Teachers are beginning to receive some very unpleasant rewards from the liberal brainwashing the kids are getting at school and this is just the tip of the iceberg,kids from the Obama years haven't even arrived on the scene yet.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you and I agree with you.

Actually it is deeper than what you say. Teachers/principals have their hands tied they are not permitted to talk loudly to a student, to punish them by detention in most schools, to swat them, to call attention to the students' bad behavior in the presence of other students. The only thing that a teacher/principal can do is call the parent(s) and hope that they will take remedial action.

At the White House Summit on Early Education, Secretaries Burwell and Duncan announced the release of a policy statement on expulsion and suspension practices in early learning settings. Exclusionary discipline practices occur at high rates in early learning settings, and at even higher rates for young boys of color. The effort, part of President Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative, encourages states, early childhood programs, and families to partner in preventing, reducing, and eventually eliminating the expulsion and suspension of young children from early learning programs. As part of this commitment, Secretary Burwell announced that HHS will dedicate $4 million toward early childhood mental health consultation services to prevent this troubling practice and to help all children thrive in early learning settings.

Also, see

Dear Colleague Letter on the Nondiscriminatory Administration of School Discipline
Guidance letter prepared with our partners at the U.S. Department of Justice describing how schools can meet their obligations under federal law to administer student discipline without discriminating on the basis of race, color, or national origin.
download files English [PDF, 587] | En español [PDF, 644K]
•Guiding Principles [PDF, 1MB] Prólogo de Secretario Arne Duncan En español [PDF, 314K]
Guidance document which draws from emerging research and best practices to describe three key principles and related action steps that can help guide state- and locally controlled efforts to improve school climate and school discipline.
•Directory of Federal School Climate and Discipline Resources [PDF, 1MB]
Index of the extensive Federal technical assistance and other resources on school discipline and climate available to schools and districts.
•Compendium of School Discipline Laws and Regulations
Document describing an online tool that catalogues the laws and regulations related to school discipline in each of the 50 States, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico states and compares laws across states and jurisdictions. You can access the description of the Compendium here [PDF, 674K], and you can access the tool itself online.
•Overview of the Supportive School Discipline Initiative [PDF, 266K]
Outline of recent federal efforts on these issues through the interagency Supportive School Discipline Initiative



Note, the student and the attacker in the video were black.

funguy1949

IT all started when spare the rod & spoil the kids.Some nut job thought they were smarter, than the rest of the world,cause they had a degree. in child PYC. In my day a little desiplain went a long way

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I raised a number of children, some adopted, some that had no homes. Each child was different. A stern look at one was enough to get him or her to check themselves. Others need to be sent to a quite place so they could think, and still others need a sharp reminder such as a swat to the behind. In this day and age, I suppose the last group could have had me jailed for discipline. But, the good news all these kids now look back as they are struggling with behavior problems and they go through the list of what Momma did with them and their siblings, and all find the one that works on their child.

I do not think that all children should be spanked, but certainly there are those that earn a swat on the behind. And yes, we have moved from allowing parents to raise their children to parents who are afraid of their children.

In the case of this teacher, no one has come out to say just how she put her hands on the kid. And I bet it was a grab to the arm to get them to stop in their tracks and pay attention. I also bet we will not know.

funguy1949

Yep just a swat on the behind was all it took to get a hand on things,at making us kids toe the line by my Mom,all dad had to do was give use kids as we called it the evil eye would send us running.An now days both would have landed in jail for just those 2 simple disiplains, but it did keep & teach us how to behave our selves,& do right as adults.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

You are so very correct. I have one friend local here that is a sub teacher...I tell him I give him a lot of respect that he can handle being a part time teacher....I know I would not be able to deal with all that coming from a student or a parent...too tempting for me to want to beat a kid half senseless if they went off on me or an innocent student and too tempting to me in maybe wanting to take a framing hammer to the parent for their attitude or more...so no thank you...I am NOT wanting to teach in a classroom...I know better.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You bring back memories, my husband was the one that our kids feared, not because he would or had ever swatted any of our children...... he talked to them. All I had to do was tell them I was calling their dad and they would beg me to swat their behind or they would volunteer for time out. My loving husband, when he talked to the kids it could take hours. They would need to tell him in their own words what they did, why or their thought on why they did it, and then the 3000 questions would begin. It wore the kids out. I only turned them over to him when I had exhausted all my techniques. Gee.... I miss him!!!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

It takes a very patient person to be a teacher. I could not do it, I do not have what it takes. You have seen me get to the end of my rope here on OPP...imagine what I would say to a half witted kid thinking they are some God's gift to mankind? I would definitely loose my teaching license and probably spend some time in Anger Management Classes. :lol: