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Apr 9, 2015 23:52:38   #
Magnum
 
the federal government should give a 75% tax credit to home owners for any solar, wind or geothermal energy system their homes, this would create jobs in manufacture, sales, carpenters, builders, plumbers and electricians, it would save money for home owners, by using less gas, oil and electricity, it would produce electricty preventing brown outs, it would decrease the consumption of oil, people would have more money for discretionary spending and savings, decrease air pollution then we also push the car manufacturers to produce natural gas cars and trucks, with natural gas and electric cars the pollution would improve more.....a cleaner, better world and more money in peoples pockets

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Apr 10, 2015 00:19:06   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Magnum wrote:
the federal government should give a 75% tax credit to home owners for any solar, wind or geothermal energy system their homes, this would create jobs in manufacture, sales, carpenters, builders, plumbers and electricians, it would save money for home owners, by using less gas, oil and electricity, it would produce electricty preventing brown outs, it would decrease the consumption of oil, people would have more money for discretionary spending and savings, decrease air pollution then we also push the car manufacturers to produce natural gas cars and trucks, with natural gas and electric cars the pollution would improve more.....a cleaner, better world and more money in peoples pockets
the federal government should give a 75% tax credi... (show quote)


Great idea. Solar energy had its flaws at first, but the kinks are being worked out and it now seems very promising. I have my own topic on solar energy called "is solar energy the future?" It shows how very promising solar energy is, I'd like if you looked at it. Also read the posts if you do. This guy try's to trash it but I put more helpful links to counter him. I also have a topic called "the Venus project" that has a little about solar energy, but only a bout five minutes in an hour long documentary. Still an interesting documentary though that'll get a person thinking. :thumbup:

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Apr 10, 2015 00:39:26   #
MarlinMan StL Loc: Saint Louis, MO
 
First of all, the Federal Government doesn't give anything. It takes it. By force.

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Apr 10, 2015 00:44:02   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Right you are.... and all the tax credits and free things.... the money comes from someplace to pay for it.... People and their grand ideas. BTW, solar.... not free. Most power companies now charge those with panels to cover the cost of supplying electricity to those without solar. So....consumer, it is a loose/loose. Power companies.... win/win. And in the end, well taxpayer... ante up!!!

MarlinMan StL wrote:
First of all, the Federal Government doesn't give anything. It takes it. By force.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 10, 2015 00:48:49   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
MarlinMan StL wrote:
First of all, the Federal Government doesn't give anything. It takes it. By force.


A tax credit means a relief on taxes

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Apr 10, 2015 00:52:11   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Right you are.... and all the tax credits and free things.... the money comes from someplace to pay for it.... People and their grand ideas. BTW, solar.... not free. Most power companies now charge those with panels to cover the cost of supplying electricity to those without solar. So....consumer, it is a loose/loose. Power companies.... win/win. And in the end, well taxpayer... ante up!!!



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He said tax credit to people with solar panels. So I'm assuming he meant the person themselves pay for the personal panels then in turn get a tax credit. Taxes wouldn't be raised with this idea.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:10:20   #
EconomistDon
 
Magnum wrote:
the federal government should give a 75% tax credit to home owners for any solar, wind or geothermal energy system their homes, this would create jobs in manufacture, sales, carpenters, builders, plumbers and electricians, it would save money for home owners, by using less gas, oil and electricity, it would produce electricty preventing brown outs, it would decrease the consumption of oil, people would have more money for discretionary spending and savings, decrease air pollution then we also push the car manufacturers to produce natural gas cars and trucks, with natural gas and electric cars the pollution would improve more.....a cleaner, better world and more money in peoples pockets
the federal government should give a 75% tax credi... (show quote)


The current credit is 30 percent. I think that is pretty good. It ends in 2016; they need to extend it.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:20:52   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
EconomistDon wrote:
The current credit is 30 percent. I think that is pretty good. It ends in 2016; they need to extend it.


30 percent might be a better number for the economy. But I'm no economist.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:23:02   #
MarlinMan StL Loc: Saint Louis, MO
 
Anonymous wrote:
A tax credit means a relief on taxes


Taxation is theft. What is your point?

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Apr 10, 2015 01:28:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Question please. Where does the money come from to pay for the credit?

EconomistDon wrote:
The current credit is 30 percent. I think that is pretty good. It ends in 2016; they need to extend it.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:34:58   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
MarlinMan StL wrote:
Taxation is theft. What is your point?


that this would lessen your "being stolen from" if you put a panel on your house. And with our current system taxes are necessary. And I put emphasis on our current system. I agree the system needs to be changed or at least tweaked. Have you looked into the Venus project? It's a rough draft on how a tax free system could work.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:37:21   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Question please. Where does the money come from to pay for the credit?


The federal reserve.

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Apr 10, 2015 01:53:25   #
MarlinMan StL Loc: Saint Louis, MO
 
Anonymous wrote:
that this would lessen your "being stolen from" if you put a panel on your house. And with our current system taxes are necessary. And I put emphasis on our current system. I agree the system needs to be changed or at least tweaked. Have you looked into the Venus project? It's a rough draft on how a tax free system could work.


I am not interested in "lessening" the brute force perpetuated on my family by the zombies that believe in Federal coercion.

I have, indeed, looked at the "Venus Project". They have some very good ideas yet they still have the fatal flaw of statism. I think I will have to look again, just to be sure (due diligence).

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Apr 10, 2015 02:29:41   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
MarlinMan StL wrote:
I am not interested in "lessening" the brute force perpetuated on my family by the zombies that believe in Federal coercion.

I have, indeed, looked at the "Venus Project". They have some very good ideas yet they still have the fatal flaw of statism. I think I will have to look again, just to be sure (due diligence).


Statism was what I was also talking about when I said I disagree with some parts. But it's is only a rough draft, there are kinks to be worked out. I think a true democracy would work. People v**e for each descion unlike these bs package deals we get with politics. we could be smart about it to, give test before v****g to make sure the v**er actually knows what it is he is v****g for. And possibly requiring a higher than majority v**e could help. 60-40 70-30 something like that

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Apr 10, 2015 07:18:31   #
JimMe
 
Anonymous wrote:
He said tax credit to people with solar panels. So I'm assuming he meant the person themselves pay for the personal panels then in turn get a tax credit. Taxes wouldn't be raised with this idea.


For folk who are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a home, plus the added expense of property taxes and insurance and upkeep... Solar Panels are just too expensive even with a 75% tax credit...

The automobile industry didn't boom overnight... It took Henry Ford's innovation of the assembly line to LOWER THE COST TO THE CONSUMER OF THE PRODUCT that allowed the average person the ABILITY TO AFFORD HIS PRODUCT that sparked the car boom...

When solar panels are able to be AFFORDABLE TO THE AVERAGE CONSUMER TO PURCHASE... That's when we'll see a SOLAR FLARE IN BUYING...

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