Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Heterosexual-Homosexual double standard.

Persecution of Religious Liberty!

Colorado double standard: Bakers should not be forced to make anti-gay cakes
Todd Starnes
By Todd StarnesPublished April 07, 2015FoxNews.com
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Marjorie Silva owns Azucar Bakery in Denver. (Ivan Moreno/AP)
Bill Jack wants to make one thing perfectly clear: Bakers should not be forced to make a cake that would violate their conscience or freedom of expression.

Jack, of Castle Rock, Colo., is making national headlines over an experiment he conducted in the wake of attacks on Christian business owners who refuse to provide services for same-sex marriages.

Last year, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission ruled that the Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood unlawfully discriminated against a gay couple who wanted a wedding cake. Jack Phillips, the owner of the cake shop, is a devout Christian, and his attorneys argued that to force him to participate in the gay wedding would violate his religious beliefs.
The Civil Rights Commission saw it differently.

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So if Christian bakers who oppose gay marriage are compelled under law to violate their beliefs – what about bakers who support gay marriage? Would they be compelled to make an anti-gay marriage cake?

Jack, who is a devout Christian, asked three bakeries to produce two cakes – each shaped like an open Bible.

On one side of one cake he requested the words, “God h**es sin – Psalm 45:7.” On the other side he wanted the words, “Homosexuality is a detestable sin – Leviticus 18:22.”

On the second cake he asked them to write another Bible verse: “While we were yet sinners Christ died for us – Romans 5:8” along with the words “God loves sinners.”

And finally, Jack wanted the bakers to create an image – two g***ms holding hands, with a red “X” over them – the universal symbol for “not allowed.”

Now if you read the national news accounts of Jack’s experiment – you would’ve read that he wanted gay slurs written on the cakes. But that wasn’t true.

According to the commission’s own report, there’s no mention of Jack using any gay slurs – unless you consider Bible verses to be gay slurs.

Mark Silverstein, the legal director for Colorado’s chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, accused Jack of wanting obscenities written on the cakes.

“There’s no law that says that a cake-maker has to write obscenities in the cake just because the customer wants it,” he told the Associated Press.

Does the ACLU consider the Bible to be obscene?

As you probably guessed, the bakeries rejected Jack’s request for what some would call “anti-gay” cakes.

“If he wants to h**e people, he can h**e them not here in my bakery,” Azucar Bakery owner Marjorie Silva told 7NEWS. She called the writing and imagery “h**eful and offensive.”

So Jack filed a discrimination complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission – just as the gay couple did in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case.

Using the commission’s logic – if a Christian baker is forced to violate his beliefs, shouldn’t all bakers be forced to violate theirs, too?

Absolutely not, says the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

It ruled that Azucar did not discriminate against Jack based on his creed. It argued that the bakery refused to make the cakes because of the “derogatory language and imagery,” The Denver Channel reported.

Jack told me it’s a double standard – pure and simple.

“I think it is hypocritical,” he said. “It’s unequal treatment before the law. The Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act is being used to coerce businesses to participate in events that violate their consciences.”

Jack said he decided to conduct his experiment to prove the Colorado law was “only being applied to Christian business people.”

“Christians need to understand that this is the state of Christianity in the United States,” he said. “We are now second-class citizens. Our free speech is being censored.”

To be clear, Jack believes the bakeries had the right to deny him service. His point was to draw attention to the hypocrisy.

“I stand for liberty for all, not liberty for some,” he said. “If we don’t have liberty for all, then we have liberty for none.”

Alliance Defending Freedom is a religious liberty law firm that represents the Masterpiece Cakeshop.

It believes the Civil Rights Commission reached the right conclusion in Jack’s case, but it blasted the commission’s inconsistencies when it came to the case involving its client.

“The commission’s inconsistent rulings mean that the owners of these three cake shops may run them according to their beliefs, while Jack cannot,” ADF attorney Jeremy Tedesco said.

“These cake artists should not be forced to violate their conscience, but clearly the commission should have done the same for Jack Phillips,” he said. “He risks losing his lifelong business altogether if he continues to run it consistent with his faith. Such blatant religious discrimination has no place in our society.”

That’s a great point. If the owner of Azucar Bakery can run her business according to her beliefs – why can’t the owner of the Masterpiece Cakeshop?

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

How about the right to arm Bears?? Not so much?

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

A bears arms are all they need.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

The right to bear Arms, or the right to arm bears, now that is the question.

Haughty Lib Loc: Boston, NYC, D.C.

You feel the way you do because you're a bigot, and likely a self-loathing homosexual as well.. H**e is the most sinful lifestyle of all.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Still calling people bigots I see. Your Prejudice!

RETW Loc: Washington

Dead ass wrong.


The Constitution reads like this. " the Government shall not make any laws for, or against religion“. It dose not say religion can’t be in government. Our founding fathers new full well most people in this country at that time practiced some form of religion. And a good many laws came into being out of the religious teachings. (( Its wrong to k**l with out just cause. Its wrong to steal, its wrong to lie or bring false witness, and so forth.)) The alternative
To this is, sure you can k**l another if you can get away with it. Go ahead and steal, lie c***t, bring false witness. These and many more were done in the old world. But the common man/woman, along with our founding fathers, had no place for them here on this continent.

The settlers and founders had a strong sense of right and wrong brought about by teachings from the bible. And the last time I checked, the good book does not teach the practice of homosexuality. Be it male or female. They are both wrong in the eyes of god. End of story.

Two males can not produce a child, nor can two females produce one either.
This is a proven fact. What good than, is the gay or lesbian life style. It isn’t, its an a*********n, and affront to all. Its an aversion to what’s right and wrong. As well as a sin to god. Don’t get in my face and tell me you have more rights than me just because your gay. Bull s**t. You don’t, and you never will have. The very thought of some male bedding down with another and committing sodomy, is so repulsive, it makes most sick just to think about. Have you no p***e in your self, no honor, no love of self to let yourself be used in this manor. Have you ever heard of the dignity of man. Stand up and be counted among men. Do something useful with your life. No good can come from the practice of homosexuality.

RETW

Liberty Tree

You can add me to your group!

Kevyn

We're you buggered by a trusted adult when you were a child?

DamnYANKEE

H**e ??? its more like SICK and D********G :evil: :evil: :evil:

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

That made me laugh, thanks dennis!

The last thing you good people need in Washington state are armed bears. They are tough enough as it is when they go naked. :shock: :shock: :shock:

God bless!

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

RETW Loc: Washington

Kevyn, stop that and be a good boy. Come and give mummy a big kiss

astrolite

You forgot to print the last sentence: Except if the church is promoting the l*****t agenda and l*****t politicians!

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

tell that to the far left. we already know that.

rolse

In this day and age what would EVER make you think that any of the privileged classes would give a damn about what the constitution says?

For that matter what would make you think that what now passes for our government has anything to do with what the constitution says?