RETW Loc: Washington

http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/lying-headlines-about-religious-freedom-in-indiana/


Its about time some one made sense of this.

Guys in this country have been pushing there agenda on the American people for to long.

RETW

Richard94611

Gals have, too.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

I think he meant "gays". I didn't read it. Will not hit the "friend" or "like" buttons on anything. That can be dangerous. If they require that, I am not going to look at it.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Here's another viewpoint about the new Indiana law. Scroll down to watch the video.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-indiana-is-a-great-place-to-be-a-bigot/

RETW Loc: Washington

You are right. I did mean "Gays."
Sorry, it was very late and I was needing some sleep.

RETW
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Richard94611

Since blue eyes are hereditary, as is the condition of being gay, I think we should apply your same sanction to blue-eyed people. I don't like blue-eyed people. They look freaky to me. They make me uncomfortable about how strong and permanent my brown eyes are. Also, I think we should prohibit brown-eyed children from being adopted by blue-eyed foster parents because it runs the danger of making them feel "acceptable."

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Of course your wonderfully satirical post is quite logical.
But be prepared for the OPP replies that will try to convince you that:

1. Sexual orientation isn't hereditary, hence your analogy does not apply (though of course it would if the individuals whose blue eyes make you uncomfortable made a choice to wear color-adjusting lenses.)

2. Choice or no choice there are folks who say homosexuality is an a*********n to God so the folks in Indiana are just being righteous.

3. Further, not allowing Indianans to discriminate is an abridgment of their religious freedom.

All just t***sparent dressing-up of personal bias in the clothing of religion. Shameful.

Richard94611

Of course. I expect those kind of uninformed responses. Dumb people have not yet become extinct.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Paul
You know quite well that there is no "gay gene" and there has so far not been any research that indicates a primary cause of same sex preference of a hereditary nature. People, particularly boys often go through a same sex attractd phase which changes on its own with maturity. In adults due to the plasticity of the human brain, people can and do change from same sex attracted to opposite sex attracted (fairly often) or the other way around (once in a while)
I don't care if you have blue eyes, brown eyes, green eyes or one blue and one brown. I distrust people with pink eyes however, because albinos have to wear dark glasses when out in bright light. It is therefore difficult to read their facial expressions and interpret what they are saying or reacting to. The one albino person I know uses that to his advantage. It allows him to sleep in public and behind the dark glasses, no one knows whether he is paying attention or sleeping, which is very disconcerting. (hope you can tell I am being funny)

RETW Loc: Washington

So because you are gay, your rights trump every one else. Of course all in the name of the right to pursue happiness.
I can hear you all now. ((( Its right in the Constitution. ))) And its given to us by God. Yes, yes, yes, we have all heard that before. The only rights you care about is your own.

God did not give you the right to be gay.
He gave you the choice to be one or the other. He has told you what you should not do. Its your choice. Because you choose to be gay, dose not give you the right to force the rest of us to side with you. The constitution dose not give you the right , or a local, state, or federal judge the right, to force that life stile on any one.

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America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Gays are always having to talk about all their woes. Take the hint...we don't want to hear it any more. Try to be just a human and leave the gay garbage alone. Try being NORMAL for once.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

NPP - Although I don't think genetic disposition is a relevant factor in judging the validity of any sexual orientation, it looks like the question is far from over. See this article from November 2014:

http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-c********e-link-homosexuality

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

It is still just that there may be a link between sexual preference and genetic influence, nothing definite. It would have more validity if the twins were separated at birth so no environment was not involved and included several thousand heterosexual identical twins where NO STRETCH in the genetic linkage was present. There is probably a connection from the standpoint that certain personalities are more likely to be same sex attracted such as sensitive, fragile temperaments, or boys who have been chronically sick as little children, which might have a genetic linkage, are somewhat more likely to develop same sex attraction, but it may be because of the problem developing a truly masculine identity when you can't play and roughouse with other boys but must be sedate more like a girl. What you should be concerned about is if there is an identifiable gene and the a******n rate for those babies is very high.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

I agree that there is an enormous ethical question about how genetic information is used. Should people be allowed to abort if it's a boy and they wanted a girl? If she has read hair and everyone else in the family is blond? Should women carrying the gene for hemophilia be required to be sterilized so it isn't passed on?

I was originally a big proponent of the "gay gene" concept, but I find it irrelevant now. However I came to be all that I am, I know it is a good thing.

Richard94611

This may be of interest in this discussion:



The Scientist » The Nutshell
Zeroing in on the “Gay Gene”
The largest study yet of the genetic roots of homosexuality links sexual preference in men to two regions of the genome.

By Bob Grant | November 19, 2014


ALEKSANDAR STOJKOVIC/SHUTTERSTOCK
At least in men, homosexuality may be a function of genetics, according to a study of more than 400 pairs of gay brothers. The research, published yesterday (November 18) in Psychological Medicine, confirms the role of a stretch of the X c********e in determining sexual preference in men, a finding first suggested more than 20 years ago. Geneticist Dean Hamer, scientist emeritus at the National Institutes of Health, published a study in 1993 that proposed that Xq28, a region of the X c********e, might play a role in determining whether a man was gay. “When you first find something out of the entire genome, you’re always wondering if it was just by chance,” Hamer told Science of the new study, adding that the research “clarifies the matter absolutely.”

Hamer, who recently wrote an opinion piece in The Scientist about the responsibilities of researchers who study sexual orientation, only studied 38 pairs of brothers in his 1993 study, but he told New Scientist that he sees the new paper as confirmation of his work. “Twenty years is a long time to wait for validation, but now it’s clear the original results were right,” he said. “It’s very nice to see it confirmed.”

But as was the case in 1993, not all researchers are convinced that science is homing in on the biological roots of sexual preference. Even the senior author on the Psychological Medicine paper, Northwestern University psychologist Michael Bailey, had his doubts. “I thought that [Hamer] did a fine but small study,” he told Science. “If I had to bet, I would have bet against our being able to replicate it.”

But when Bailey, who also wrote an opinion piece for The Scientist on the search for the biological roots of homosexuality, and his colleagues analyzed single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in the DNA of the brother pairs, they found five SNPs that were commonly shared by all the gay men. And those SNPs clustered in the Xq28 region on the X c********e and in the 8q12 region of c********e 8.

Bailey and his colleagues are now working on a genome-wide association study to confirm the results of their genetic linkage research. This analysis, which will include DNA samples from more than 1,000 additional gay men, may narrow the search for genetic signals for homosexuality down to individual genes. “It looks promising for there being genes in both of these regions,” Bailey told Science. “But until somebody finds a gene, we don’t know.”