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Mar 26, 2015 17:17:42   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Too bad the cake baker didn't make a cake with two men buggering each other on the top instead of the traditional couple.

Nothing h********c about that !

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Mar 26, 2015 17:19:09   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
Are you sad that people who discriminate get less business? We do actually have an amendment against discrimination.

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Mar 26, 2015 17:34:39   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
skott wrote:
Are you sad that people who discriminate get less business? We do actually have an amendment against discrimination.


Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????

You can't tell me that there wasn't any other bakers that wouldn't have made them a cake without any hesitation !

If I went to a homo bakery and was told they didn't feel right about making a cake of an heterosexual wedding I'd have said hey no problem I'll go else where and that would have been that !

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Mar 26, 2015 17:43:09   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
4430 wrote:
Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????

You can't tell me that there wasn't any other bakers that wouldn't have made them a cake without any hesitation !

If I went to a homo bakery and was told they didn't feel right about making a cake of an heterosexual wedding I'd have said hey no problem I'll go else where and that would have been that !


Selling cakes are their business. What is wrong about making a cake?
Deciding that the two are committing a sin is GOD's business.

If you were black in the 1960's in the south, where I live, it would have been "wrong" for you to eat in a white restaurant. This will go the same way in the long run.

Unless the bakers were missing an eye, or a hand, then I have a problem with their literal t***slation of the Bible.(or at least the t***slation that they picked.) If they want to t***slate literally and affect other people with it, then they should be following the verse where Jesus says,"If your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off...."
I bet they don't choose that one. I have yet to meet anyone who does.

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Mar 26, 2015 17:54:41   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
skott wrote:
Selling cakes are their business. What is wrong about making a cake?
Deciding that the two are committing a sin is GOD's business.

If you were black in the 1960's in the south, where I live, it would have been "wrong" for you to eat in a white restaurant. This will go the same way in the long run.

Unless the bakers were missing an eye, or a hand, then I have a problem with their literal t***slation of the Bible.(or at least the t***slation that they picked.) If they want to t***slate literally and affect other people with it, then they should be following the verse where Jesus says,"If your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off...."
I bet they don't choose that one. I have yet to meet anyone who does.
Selling cakes are their business. What is wrong ab... (show quote)


OK I ask you again !

Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????

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Mar 26, 2015 18:01:29   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
4430 wrote:
OK I ask you again !

Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????


I have been in all of the jobs, that I have had. Haven't you? Did you quit?
One of those jobs was as a business owner. I actually knew that my customers were my customers. I didn't say I don't like that you are a Muslim, therefore I won't work for you. I didn't even raise he prices. It was frankly none of my business what religion she was.
When did it become the baker's business? If he had a real religious problem with putting two men on a cake, not having sex, or nude. Then he could have baked them a cake and they add the men.

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Mar 26, 2015 18:02:58   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
4430 wrote:
OK I ask you again !

Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????


I've read the Bible. Jesus had a habit of eating with the sinners. He did not walk around condemning them.

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Mar 26, 2015 18:17:42   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
skott wrote:
Are you sad that people who discriminate get less business? We do actually have an amendment against discrimination.


it is not an amendment learn something before you post

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Mar 26, 2015 18:19:31   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
4430 wrote:
Would you like to be forced to do something that you thought was wrong ??????

You can't tell me that there wasn't any other bakers that wouldn't have made them a cake without any hesitation !

If I went to a homo bakery and was told they didn't feel right about making a cake of an heterosexual wedding I'd have said hey no problem I'll go else where and that would have been that !


that's because you aren't pushing an agenda

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Mar 26, 2015 19:13:24   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
In a way you are right. A bakery is in a business and technically is offering a service and that is the action protected under EOT. What the person thinks or says and that includes discouraging certain customers is also protected.

Now moving on to God. This is where I do not agree with you. To judge, condemn, without proper evidence is sinful, but to judge, examine, is something else.

In Greek, the verb tense means to "not be continually involved in judging others" which is hardly the same as to never judge anyone. We are to judge, examine, ourselves and others, in order to discern, and discriminate right from wrong so as to lead a proper Christian life. Shortly after Jesus said, "Judge not," He twice commands believers in Mathew 7:6 to judge when He tells us to "not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine." Solomon, in I Kings 3:9-11, asked God for discernment (which in Hebrew means to mentally distinguish) in order to judge and rule his people. God granted his request. There are many other examples.

God has made it extremely easy for His followers to judge correctly; His words are His guideline. So is it right for a Christian to judge, examine, a Doctor that k**ls unborn children or people who promote a lifestyle that God calls abominable? You’d better believe it - in fact God orders it!

And in the end, what is wrong with baking the homosexuals a wedding cake. Let us fall back, if the issue was simply baking a cake .... then a Christian would bake the cake to be used as nourishment. To satisfy hunger, and a true Christian would ensure they are not over charging for that cake. But, here is the problem. A wedding cake is not for nourishment, it is a symbol and dates back to Roman times when a cake (not the same as you see in wedding now, but made of fruit, honey, and nuts) was crumbled over the head of the bride. This was done for a) luck and b) fertility. And as a such, a baker should not be forced by law or pressure to provide a antichristian symbol. I believe that this is being argued in a court in Utah.

skott wrote:
Selling cakes are their business. What is wrong about making a cake?
Deciding that the two are committing a sin is GOD's business.

If you were black in the 1960's in the south, where I live, it would have been "wrong" for you to eat in a white restaurant. This will go the same way in the long run.

Unless the bakers were missing an eye, or a hand, then I have a problem with their literal t***slation of the Bible.(or at least the t***slation that they picked.) If they want to t***slate literally and affect other people with it, then they should be following the verse where Jesus says,"If your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off...."
I bet they don't choose that one. I have yet to meet anyone who does.
Selling cakes are their business. What is wrong ab... (show quote)

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Mar 26, 2015 19:21:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
True enough, but Jesus (and I intend no disrespect to Christians) was in a way a politician. Politicians who are trying to persuade or convince a population to change their views, beliefs or habits will pick up more v**es from those who have been outside of the community. Therefore, Jesus did eat with sinners, stayed in their homes, and probably kissed the kids (in fact he did, when he said bless the children to come unto me and forbid them not). He was looking for converts.... Try to convert a dev**ed Jew to Muslim or Christianity.... it is difficult at best if not impossible. Jesus needed a quick and large amount of followers, and he was not going to get that by judging sinners, alienating them by quoting the Torah....but, he could get them with promises of everlasting life where they could eat what they wanted, work when they wanted.... in fact break all the old laws and still be accepted into heaven.

skott wrote:
I've read the Bible. Jesus had a habit of eating with the sinners. He did not walk around condemning them.

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Mar 26, 2015 21:38:36   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
alex wrote:
that's because you aren't pushing an agenda


that is the entire point. the ONLY reason that the homosexual couple wanted that particlar baker to do the cake was because they knewit was against his moral standard to validate a homosexual activity. In other cases where the baker had said, I will make the cake but you will have to put the two same sex figures on it, the homosexual couple said "no, that is part of doing the cake and you have to do it" Therefore it should be perfectly obvious that the agenda was the goal.
Since the cake was to celebrate homosexual sexual behavior, I think I would have done it, but an act of sodomy would have adorned the cake to remind the wedding participants what this was really all about.

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Mar 26, 2015 21:55:44   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
skott wrote:
Are you sad that people who discriminate get less business? We do actually have an amendment against discrimination.


Your statement as this being discrimination is pure hogwash skott !

The bakery served these guys many times but for this request they respectively refused so the ones who demand tolerance showed no tolerance to the bakery !

As usual they just acted like liberal hypocrites they just can not accept the fact that there are some who's not buying their line of crap !

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Mar 27, 2015 10:22:48   #
astrolite
 
skott wrote:
Are you sad that people who discriminate get less business? We do actually have an amendment against discrimination.


Yes but.... Guess who decides exactly what IS discrimination?

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Mar 27, 2015 10:27:00   #
astrolite
 
Well I guess that makes more room for the several MILLION MUSLIMS Obama has scheduled for Indiana?

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