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Mar 12, 2015 20:57:00   #
jelun
 
Um, because there are no clergy who believe that love thy neighbor means all your neighbors?
Could this really be true?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/03/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-restricting-marriage-to-people-of-faith/

Oklahoma House passes bill restricting marriage to people of faith
March 11, 2015 by Michael Stone 463 Comments
A bill that would restrict the right to marry to people of faith and would mandate all marriage licenses be approved by a member of the clergy was approved by the Oklahoma state House on Tuesday.
The bill, approved by a Republican majority, now goes to the state Senate for consideration.
House Bill 1125, sponsored by Republican State Representative Todd Russ, is a radical measure that would end secular marriage licenses in the state. In addition, the bill would bar all judges and other secular officials from performing marriages in Oklahoma.
Russ claims the radical legislation is motivated by his desire to protect court clerks from having to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Russ says he doesn’t want these workers put in the position of having to condone or facilitate same-sex marriage.
Under the legislation, atheists and others not wanting to be married by a religious official could file an affidavit through the court clerk’s office claiming a common-law marriage.
Republican supporters of the legislation want to remove the state from the marriage process. Rep. Dennis Johnson, a Republican, said:
Marriage was not instituted by government. t was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.
Johnson and other Republicans are confused. For the record, marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults, and as a legal contract it is governed by the state. A wedding, on the other hand, may or may not be a religious ceremony, depending upon the wishes of the couple.
If conservative Christians could only understand this simple and basic distinction, which in many ways mirrors the constitutional distinction between church and state, a great deal of time, energy, and taxpayer money could be saved, and used towards more productive ends.
As it stands, the legislation is thinly disguised anti-gay Christian bigotry, pure and simple. The bill is a naked attempt to force Christian theocracy upon the citizens of Oklahoma.
A toxic combination of anti-gay discrimination and discrimination against non-theists, the bill is emblematic of the dangerous and h**eful nature of conservative Christianity in America.
(Large portions of this article were previously published here)

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Mar 12, 2015 21:15:26   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
jelun wrote:
Um, because there are no clergy who believe that love thy neighbor means all your neighbors?
Could this really be true?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/03/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-restricting-marriage-to-people-of-faith/

Oklahoma House passes bill restricting marriage to people of faith
March 11, 2015 by Michael Stone 463 Comments
A bill that would restrict the right to marry to people of faith and would mandate all marriage licenses be approved by a member of the clergy was approved by the Oklahoma state House on Tuesday.
The bill, approved by a Republican majority, now goes to the state Senate for consideration.
House Bill 1125, sponsored by Republican State Representative Todd Russ, is a radical measure that would end secular marriage licenses in the state. In addition, the bill would bar all judges and other secular officials from performing marriages in Oklahoma.
Russ claims the radical legislation is motivated by his desire to protect court clerks from having to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Russ says he doesn’t want these workers put in the position of having to condone or facilitate same-sex marriage.
Under the legislation, atheists and others not wanting to be married by a religious official could file an affidavit through the court clerk’s office claiming a common-law marriage.
Republican supporters of the legislation want to remove the state from the marriage process. Rep. Dennis Johnson, a Republican, said:
Marriage was not instituted by government. t was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.
Johnson and other Republicans are confused. For the record, marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults, and as a legal contract it is governed by the state. A wedding, on the other hand, may or may not be a religious ceremony, depending upon the wishes of the couple.
If conservative Christians could only understand this simple and basic distinction, which in many ways mirrors the constitutional distinction between church and state, a great deal of time, energy, and taxpayer money could be saved, and used towards more productive ends.
As it stands, the legislation is thinly disguised anti-gay Christian bigotry, pure and simple. The bill is a naked attempt to force Christian theocracy upon the citizens of Oklahoma.
A toxic combination of anti-gay discrimination and discrimination against non-theists, the bill is emblematic of the dangerous and h**eful nature of conservative Christianity in America.
(Large portions of this article were previously published here)
Um, because there are no clergy who believe that l... (show quote)


Gee - next thing you know Oklahoma will pass a law saying you have to be white to come in through the front door of state buildings. You know, to protect the sensibilities of the state workers who base their r****m in their interpretation of the Bible.

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Mar 12, 2015 21:28:22   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Gee - next thing you know Oklahoma will pass a law saying you have to be white to come in through the front door of state buildings. You know, to protect the sensibilities of the state workers who base their r****m in their interpretation of the Bible.


A simple sign saying "no admittance to f*ggits"will do.

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Mar 12, 2015 21:29:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
jelun wrote:
Um, because there are no clergy who believe that love thy neighbor means all your neighbors?
Could this really be true?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/03/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-restricting-marriage-to-people-of-faith/

Oklahoma House passes bill restricting marriage to people of faith
March 11, 2015 by Michael Stone 463 Comments
A bill that would restrict the right to marry to people of faith and would mandate all marriage licenses be approved by a member of the clergy was approved by the Oklahoma state House on Tuesday.
The bill, approved by a Republican majority, now goes to the state Senate for consideration.
House Bill 1125, sponsored by Republican State Representative Todd Russ, is a radical measure that would end secular marriage licenses in the state. In addition, the bill would bar all judges and other secular officials from performing marriages in Oklahoma.
Russ claims the radical legislation is motivated by his desire to protect court clerks from having to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Russ says he doesn’t want these workers put in the position of having to condone or facilitate same-sex marriage.
Under the legislation, atheists and others not wanting to be married by a religious official could file an affidavit through the court clerk’s office claiming a common-law marriage.
Republican supporters of the legislation want to remove the state from the marriage process. Rep. Dennis Johnson, a Republican, said:
Marriage was not instituted by government. t was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.
Johnson and other Republicans are confused. For the record, marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults, and as a legal contract it is governed by the state. A wedding, on the other hand, may or may not be a religious ceremony, depending upon the wishes of the couple.
If conservative Christians could only understand this simple and basic distinction, which in many ways mirrors the constitutional distinction between church and state, a great deal of time, energy, and taxpayer money could be saved, and used towards more productive ends.
As it stands, the legislation is thinly disguised anti-gay Christian bigotry, pure and simple. The bill is a naked attempt to force Christian theocracy upon the citizens of Oklahoma.
A toxic combination of anti-gay discrimination and discrimination against non-theists, the bill is emblematic of the dangerous and h**eful nature of conservative Christianity in America.
(Large portions of this article were previously published

Um, because there are no clergy who believe that l... (show quote)
There should be a civil marriage that is as legal as the religious one. for those who do not have a religion but done by the justice of the peace. No it would not be sanctified by God, but would still be a contract that would hold up in court.

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Mar 12, 2015 21:34:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Hemiman wrote:
You liberals don't like it tough s**t,eat it.It's the law in OK. Keep your f*ggit asses out.The good folks that don't want to bake cakes for your perverted weddings doesn't like getting sued because he doesn't want to be part of homo.perversion.


That is why a civil union, not celebrated in a church, with no religious affirmation, and not sanctified, but would hold up in those civil claims such as inheritence of properties.

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Mar 13, 2015 00:59:53   #
jelun
 
Hemiman wrote:
You liberals don't like it tough s**t,eat it.It's the law in OK. Keep your f*ggit asses out.The good folks that don't want to bake cakes for your perverted weddings doesn't like getting sued because he doesn't want to be part of homo.perversion.


Well no, you illiterate puke, it isn't the law in OK. It has been passed in the House not in the Senate and not signed by the governor.

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Mar 13, 2015 01:02:47   #
jelun
 
no propaganda please wrote:
There should be a civil marriage that is as legal as the religious one. for those who do not have a religion but done by the justice of the peace. No it would not be sanctified by God, but would still be a contract that would hold up in court.


HAHAHAAAA, there IS a civil marriage that is MORE legal than the religious one. People can enter into the contract of a civil marriage without a church it cannot legally be done in reverse.

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Mar 13, 2015 10:09:46   #
astrolite
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Gee - next thing you know Oklahoma will pass a law saying you have to be white to come in through the front door of state buildings. You know, to protect the sensibilities of the state workers who base their r****m in their interpretation of the Bible.


Didn't Obama (or wh**ever his real name is) pass a law (p**********l directive OR EDICT) that NO American citizen can enter The AMERICAN PUBLIC"S White House? Only MUSLIM TERRORISTS AND THEIR ILK ALLOWED.

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Mar 13, 2015 10:12:00   #
Common Sense Rebel
 
jelun wrote:
HAHAHAAAA, there IS a civil marriage that is MORE legal than the religious one. People can enter into the contract of a civil marriage without a church it cannot legally be done in reverse.


All marriages should be religious and between a man and woman only!

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Mar 13, 2015 10:20:21   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
jelun wrote:
HAHAHAAAA, there IS a civil marriage that is MORE legal than the religious one. People can enter into the contract of a civil marriage without a church it cannot legally be done in reverse.


Good, a civil union or a religious marriage. Separates the two concepts just fine, so what is the problem? Why are you L***Q people demanding the availability of a marriage as in religiously sanctified action? Just to disrupt and damage the established culture is the most logical answer.

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Mar 13, 2015 12:47:00   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Good, a civil union or a religious marriage. Separates the two concepts just fine, so what is the problem? Why are you L***Q people demanding the availability of a marriage as in religiously sanctified action? Just to disrupt and damage the established culture is the most logical answer.


NPP - One could easily make the argument that opposition to marriage e******y logically has the sole purpose to disrupt and damage the culture of fairness that is (finally!) becoming part of the established culture.

And you well know that L***Q people are demanding marriage e******y from the state and not from any religious institution (though in some churches the congregations have decided to offer marriage e******y).

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Mar 13, 2015 13:56:08   #
Had enough
 
astrolite wrote:
Didn't Obama (or wh**ever his real name is) pass a law (p**********l directive OR EDICT) that NO American citizen can enter The AMERICAN PUBLIC"S White House? Only MUSLIM TERRORISTS AND THEIR ILK ALLOWED.


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Mar 13, 2015 13:58:48   #
Had enough
 
PaulPisces wrote:
NPP - One could easily make the argument that opposition to marriage e******y logically has the sole purpose to disrupt and damage the culture of fairness that is (finally!) becoming part of the established culture.

And you well know that L***Q people are demanding marriage e******y from the state and not from any religious institution (though in some churches the congregations have decided to offer marriage e******y).




Name your source. I do not believe one single Church would ever offer marriage e******y without a government gun to it's head!!

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Mar 13, 2015 14:01:10   #
Had enough
 
Common Sense Rebel wrote:
All marriages should be religious and between a man and woman only!


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Mar 13, 2015 14:21:16   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Had enough wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Marriage should be between a man and a woman, that is the definition. But a civil union should be allowed with legal rights between two men or two women so they can inherit the property, file income ta together. Just don't pretend it is marriage. but then the L***Q claim is that you are a man on those days you feel as if you are and a woman when you feel like one of those no matter what your DNA says.

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