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Life does NOT begin at conception.
Mar 12, 2015 19:24:28   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing that "Life begins at conception." Even though you mean well, it give A******nists a page on which to argue a contrary position.

Take that page away from them. It does not exist except in the debates and arguments, because it is not true.

Life began when God breathed into Adam's nostrils, the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul. God established in the Garden of Eden, that like begets like, so when man and wife combine sperm and egg in the woman's womb, they are not just passing on waste material, they are passing on life and soul.

Unless someone is willing to assert and defend the position that life begins in the sperm only after it unites with the egg, and the that life begins in the egg only after it unites with the sperm; and can establish that there is a "life-making "spark" that unites them," then they must accept the premise that the egg was alive when it was placed into position for mating in the female, and the sperm was alive when it was placed in position for mating by the male in the female.

It is not "New life" that is in the womb, it is life as old as Eden's Garden, for it was there that God placed life in the Man, and it was living when God formed Eve from Adam's living rib.

And that life has not ceased at any step along the way, but has progressed from generation to generation from the first generation to the present generation, uninterrupted at any point in the succession.

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Mar 12, 2015 20:40:06   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Theo wrote:
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing that "Life begins at conception." Even though you mean well, it give A******nists a page on which to argue a contrary position.

Take that page away from them. It does not exist except in the debates and arguments, because it is not true.

Life began when God breathed into Adam's nostrils, the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul. God established in the Garden of Eden, that like begets like, so when man and wife combine sperm and egg in the woman's womb, they are not just passing on waste material, they are passing on life and soul.

Unless someone is willing to assert and defend the position that life begins in the sperm only after it unites with the egg, and the that life begins in the egg only after it unites with the sperm; and can establish that there is a "life-making "spark" that unites them," then they must accept the premise that the egg was alive when it was placed into position for mating in the female, and the sperm was alive when it was placed in position for mating by the male in the female.

It is not "New life" that is in the womb, it is life as old as Eden's Garden, for it was there that God placed life in the Man, and it was living when God formed Eve from Adam's living rib.

And that life has not ceased at any step along the way, but has progressed from generation to generation from the first generation to the present generation, uninterrupted at any point in the succession.
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: however, try and tell that to the new-age liberal who thinks with blinders on.

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Mar 12, 2015 20:41:12   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Theo wrote:
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing that "Life begins at conception." Even though you mean well, it give A******nists a page on which to argue a contrary position.

Take that page away from them. It does not exist except in the debates and arguments, because it is not true.

Life began when God breathed into Adam's nostrils, the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul. God established in the Garden of Eden, that like begets like, so when man and wife combine sperm and egg in the woman's womb, they are not just passing on waste material, they are passing on life and soul.

AMEN and God Bless you for this response

Unless someone is willing to assert and defend the position that life begins in the sperm only after it unites with the egg, and the that life begins in the egg only after it unites with the sperm; and can establish that there is a "life-making "spark" that unites them," then they must accept the premise that the egg was alive when it was placed into position for mating in the female, and the sperm was alive when it was placed in position for mating by the male in the female.

It is not "New life" that is in the womb, it is life as old as Eden's Garden, for it was there that God placed life in the Man, and it was living when God formed Eve from Adam's living rib.

And that life has not ceased at any step along the way, but has progressed from generation to generation from the first generation to the present generation, uninterrupted at any point in the succession.
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing... (show quote)

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Mar 12, 2015 21:22:22   #
WhosetheBoss Loc: Arkansas
 
Theo wrote:
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing that "Life begins at conception." Even though you mean well, it give A******nists a page on which to argue a contrary position.

Take that page away from them. It does not exist except in the debates and arguments, because it is not true.

Life began when God breathed into Adam's nostrils, the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul. God established in the Garden of Eden, that like begets like, so when man and wife combine sperm and egg in the woman's womb, they are not just passing on waste material, they are passing on life and soul.

Unless someone is willing to assert and defend the position that life begins in the sperm only after it unites with the egg, and the that life begins in the egg only after it unites with the sperm; and can establish that there is a "life-making "spark" that unites them," then they must accept the premise that the egg was alive when it was placed into position for mating in the female, and the sperm was alive when it was placed in position for mating by the male in the female.

It is not "New life" that is in the womb, it is life as old as Eden's Garden, for it was there that God placed life in the Man, and it was living when God formed Eve from Adam's living rib.

And that life has not ceased at any step along the way, but has progressed from generation to generation from the first generation to the present generation, uninterrupted at any point in the succession.
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing... (show quote)


Constitutionally life begins at conception and the reason I say is because if a man k**ls a woman right after conception, when they perform the autopsy and find the just conceived child, the man is charged with 2 murders.

Roe vs Wade ruled the unborn fetus had no rights as a person and therefore the mother's rights were the only important matter. For this ruling to be real in the law, then not even men can be charged with murder of an unborn fetus. Yet they recognize the real t***h in charging murder of the life in the mother.

The majority opinion is: The majority opinion allowed states to protect "fetal life after viability" even though a fetus is not "a person within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment". Supporters of Roe contend that the decision has a valid constitutional foundation, or contend that justification for the result in Roe could be found in the Constitution but not in the articles referenced in the decision.

If a fetus is not a person with standing and has no rights, then every man charged with murder in the death of a fetus has been discriminated against on the basis of sex, a woman's choice but a mans murder.

It is either unconstitutional to have an a******n murdering the child, or its unconstitutional to charge men with murder when a fetus is terminated. To have it both ways is to discriminate against men for the same act women are allowed.

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Mar 13, 2015 08:38:11   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Theo wrote:
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing that "Life begins at conception." Even though you mean well, it give A******nists a page on which to argue a contrary position.

Take that page away from them. It does not exist except in the debates and arguments, because it is not true.

Life began when God breathed into Adam's nostrils, the breath of life, and Adam became a living soul. God established in the Garden of Eden, that like begets like, so when man and wife combine sperm and egg in the woman's womb, they are not just passing on waste material, they are passing on life and soul.

Unless someone is willing to assert and defend the position that life begins in the sperm only after it unites with the egg, and the that life begins in the egg only after it unites with the sperm; and can establish that there is a "life-making "spark" that unites them," then they must accept the premise that the egg was alive when it was placed into position for mating in the female, and the sperm was alive when it was placed in position for mating by the male in the female.

It is not "New life" that is in the womb, it is life as old as Eden's Garden, for it was there that God placed life in the Man, and it was living when God formed Eve from Adam's living rib.

And that life has not ceased at any step along the way, but has progressed from generation to generation from the first generation to the present generation, uninterrupted at any point in the succession.
It is way past time for Christians to stop arguing... (show quote)

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Beautifully said! I agree with you though I had never thought of it that way. That said, if one is speaking to a progressive, democrat, socialist, c*******t, that then creates even MORE animosity as they are terrified of anything to do with faith, love, God, Jesus - and everything else that some "liberal" hasn't proven with "science". If any conservative proves something scientifically, that isn't accepted by the left either. The political left views Christianity the same way "vampires" view wooden stakes - and for the same reasons. If they accept anything to do with Christianity, they cannot live the kind of lives they so love; i.e., they cannot whore around, cannot lie incessantly, cannot c***t their fellow man, cannot desire the total control of others. In their eyes they MUST see Christianity as the worst possible thing they can think of and they would LOVE to see it wiped from the face of the earth - it reminds them too readily what THEY have become and what THEY crave. What they crave is total control of others, and a decadent lifestyle - Christianity gets in their way.

Thank you for your post. It is wonderful!

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Mar 13, 2015 10:30:40   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Tasine wrote:
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Beautifully said! I agree with you though I had never thought of it that way. That said, if one is speaking to a progressive, democrat, socialist, c*******t, that then creates even MORE animosity as they are terrified of anything to do with faith, love, God, Jesus - and everything else that some "liberal" hasn't proven with "science". If any conservative proves something scientifically, that isn't accepted by the left either. The political left views Christianity the same way "vampires" view wooden stakes - and for the same reasons. If they accept anything to do with Christianity, they cannot live the kind of lives they so love; i.e., they cannot whore around, cannot lie incessantly, cannot c***t their fellow man, cannot desire the total control of others. In their eyes they MUST see Christianity as the worst possible thing they can think of and they would LOVE to see it wiped from the face of the earth - it reminds them too readily what THEY have become and what THEY crave. What they crave is total control of others, and a decadent lifestyle - Christianity gets in their way.

Thank you for your post. It is wonderful!
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It is wonderful isn't it? We need more people who can express their thoughts this well.

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Mar 13, 2015 11:14:11   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
no propaganda please wrote:
It is wonderful isn't it? We need more people who can express their thoughts this well.


Yep, we sure do!!

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