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Mar 10, 2015 05:26:24   #
BOHICA
 
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of the last 100 years has unearthed nothing that undermines the Gospel accounts. There is no "new evidence" supporting the idea that Jesus was merely a “good man.” There is no “new evidence” debunking the accounts of miracles and the resurrection based on new analysis of “myth theory” over a long period of time. To the contrary, recent discoveries have given more credibility to the nature and content of the New Testament record than ever before - See more at: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-jesus.htm#sthash.05PeHsHD.dpuf

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Mar 10, 2015 06:30:51   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
BOHICA wrote:
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of the last 100 years has unearthed nothing that undermines the Gospel accounts. There is no "new evidence" supporting the idea that Jesus was merely a “good man.” There is no “new evidence” debunking the accounts of miracles and the resurrection based on new analysis of “myth theory” over a long period of time. To the contrary, recent discoveries have given more credibility to the nature and content of the New Testament record than ever before - See more at: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-jesus.htm#sthash.05PeHsHD.dpuf
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Jesus IS the Way, the T***h and the Life: no one comes to the Father except through Him. Was he a liar, a lunatic or Lord? That is the question we will all have to answer one day.

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Mar 10, 2015 06:33:45   #
BOHICA
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Jesus IS the Way, the T***h and the Life: no one comes to the Father except through Him. Was he a liar, a lunatic or Lord? That is the question we will all have to answer one day.


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Mar 10, 2015 07:37:58   #
nerodian45
 
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Mar 10, 2015 07:41:07   #
BOHICA
 
nerodian45 wrote:
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I believe you're on the wrong thread.

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Mar 10, 2015 08:12:25   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
BOHICA wrote:
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of the last 100 years has unearthed nothing that undermines the Gospel accounts. There is no "new evidence" supporting the idea that Jesus was merely a “good man.” There is no “new evidence” debunking the accounts of miracles and the resurrection based on new analysis of “myth theory” over a long period of time. To the contrary, recent discoveries have given more credibility to the nature and content of the New Testament record than ever before - See more at: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-jesus.htm#sthash.05PeHsHD.dpuf
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of ... (show quote)


I believe in Jesus and I believe he, or God, kept me out of Viet Nam, when I was in the Marine Corps.

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Mar 10, 2015 08:40:24   #
moccisan
 
Many religions say he was a good and wise teacher. He can’t be both if he is not Jesus. No matter who he is he doesn’t belong in the class with great profits and spiritual leaders. He may have been wise but he would also know he is the greatest con man that ever crossed the stage of history. On the other hand he could have been a good man but he had the IQ of a poach egg if he thought he was Jesus. Ever wonder why historians can’t agree on which place this man that had the greatest impact ever on history was buried? You can go today and find where most of the great profits and teachers are buried so why not Jesus? Could it be history had no reason to keep track of a grave that contained no body? He is who He says He is!

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Mar 10, 2015 08:47:35   #
BOHICA
 
moccisan wrote:
Many religions say he was a good and wise teacher. He can’t be both if he is not Jesus. No matter who he is he doesn’t belong in the class with great profits and spiritual leaders. He may have been wise but he would also know he is the greatest con man that ever crossed the stage of history. On the other hand he could have been a good man but he had the IQ of a poach egg if he thought he was Jesus. Ever wonder why historians can’t agree on which place this man that had the greatest impact ever on history was buried? You can go today and find where most of the great profits and teachers are buried so why not Jesus? Could it be history had no reason to keep track of a grave that contained no body? He is who He says He is!
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Show me the body. There isn't one. And you can bet the Romans searched high and low for it.

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Mar 10, 2015 10:54:54   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
moccisan wrote:
Many religions say he was a good and wise teacher. He can’t be both if he is not Jesus. No matter who he is he doesn’t belong in the class with great profits and spiritual leaders. He may have been wise but he would also know he is the greatest con man that ever crossed the stage of history. On the other hand he could have been a good man but he had the IQ of a poach egg if he thought he was Jesus. Ever wonder why historians can’t agree on which place this man that had the greatest impact ever on history was buried? You can go today and find where most of the great profits and teachers are buried so why not Jesus? Could it be history had no reason to keep track of a grave that contained no body? He is who He says He is!
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You can go to the Holy Land and find innumerable burial sites for biblical personages, all of which are identified by local legends and beliefs. Sometimes there are multiple locations for the same individual, again supported by local folklore. The only certain burial spot for a biblical personage of Jesus time was that of Joseph Caiaphas, known simply as Caiaphas. In the New Testament, Caiaphas was the Jewish high priest who is said to have organized the plot to k**l Jesus. His ossuary was discovered in a burial cave in South Jerusalem in 1990 and has been certified as authentic.

Jesus wasn't a Prophet, He was the fulfillment of the Prophecies. John the Baptist proclaimed him as the One for whom he was preparing the way. Each and every miracle performed by him was in fulfillment of a specific prophecy.

The only con job here is the one you are trying to perpetrate on those ignorant of history. Your citing of the beliefs of "many" religions is irrelevant, as is the historians inability to agree on the location of a specific burial site. In the absence of explicit evidence, no agreement can ever be reached in certainty about burial places, only a possible consensus of opinions, not facts.

The only written material which has survived from that time are the Talmud and Torah of Judaism, the writings of Josephus, and the New Testaments. None them gave GPS coordinates to burial sites.

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Mar 10, 2015 11:05:58   #
DotsMan
 
BOHICA wrote:
I believe you're on the wrong thread.


How can you determine where he/she belongs?
My 20 month old granddaughter expresses herself more clearly than this character.

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Mar 11, 2015 10:10:48   #
moccisan
 
Quite the contrary! Apparently you completely missed my point but I get that a lot. Organized religion does that to people. With your knowledge of the Bible, you should know religions of the world can’t get you to heaven, only the acceptance that Christ did for you and me what we had no possibility of doing for ourselves – period. Christianity is not a religion - it is a relationship which is what sets it apart from religions of the world.

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Mar 11, 2015 10:42:44   #
BOHICA
 
moccisan wrote:
Quite the contrary! Apparently you completely missed my point but I get that a lot. Organized religion does that to people. With your knowledge of the Bible, you should know religions of the world can’t get you to heaven, only the acceptance that Christ did for you and me what we had no possibility of doing for ourselves – period. Christianity is not a religion - it is a relationship which is what sets it apart from religions of the world.


Could you please use the quote/reply button, when replying to someone? It avoids a lot of confusion. Thanks.

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Mar 11, 2015 11:31:33   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
BOHICA wrote:
Could you please use the quote/reply button, when replying to someone? It avoids a lot of confusion. Thanks.


He, or she, likes you keep you guessing.

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Mar 11, 2015 12:21:53   #
richard0135 Loc: little rock, arkansas
 
BOHICA wrote:
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of the last 100 years has unearthed nothing that undermines the Gospel accounts. There is no "new evidence" supporting the idea that Jesus was merely a “good man.” There is no “new evidence” debunking the accounts of miracles and the resurrection based on new analysis of “myth theory” over a long period of time. To the contrary, recent discoveries have given more credibility to the nature and content of the New Testament record than ever before - See more at: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-jesus.htm#sthash.05PeHsHD.dpuf
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of ... (show quote)



There are no Factual records that Jesus even lived. The census records kept by the Roman's, shows no birth record for a Jesus in that time period. Furthur more, also, the Bible is written by God's know who. It has been re-written 2500 times to change a supposed inerrant wording at first writing, by other writings. Now, if it the first writing was inerrant (Iinfalable), then, why in the hell does the Bible keep changing? Why did Jesus say at his Sermon on the Mount, "That some of you will not be here at the coming". I submit not one of those people, now over 2,000 years old will be here. In the beginning there were Adam, Eve, and their two children, Cain and Able. That would be four people: AGREED? Cain k**led Able and was expelled to Nod east of Eden. That was where he met his bride and HER VILLAGE OF PEOPLE. Where in the hell did these people come from? Then later on in the Bible, God tells Moses; Free My People. Who in the hell got his people? I could go on and on, but I am sure YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE FAITH.

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Mar 11, 2015 12:36:39   #
LAwrence
 
BOHICA wrote:
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of the last 100 years has unearthed nothing that undermines the Gospel accounts. There is no "new evidence" supporting the idea that Jesus was merely a “good man.” There is no “new evidence” debunking the accounts of miracles and the resurrection based on new analysis of “myth theory” over a long period of time. To the contrary, recent discoveries have given more credibility to the nature and content of the New Testament record than ever before - See more at: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-jesus.htm#sthash.05PeHsHD.dpuf
When examined, the “Historical Jesus” movement of ... (show quote)


What you have written is good, but the bible states that true believers come to Jesus Christ by the faith and light given to them by God's Holy Spirit which draws men to Jesus through the gospel message. Jesus said in effect to doubting Thomas that it is good that you have seen and believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and believed.

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