Two Americas
Jul 10, 2013 22:54:31 #
Every ugly thing we ever had to rightfully say about totalitarian and oppressive regimes is done far more effectively here, in the US:. IRS, NSA, DOH. DOD.
This is not the direct Work of Obama, though he is integrally involved and culpable, nor the will of Congress but the choice of "we the peope": we took fear willingly as our guide to the future. Expected our reps to respond with impressive defensive stratigies based on security and not the highest ideals of this country. We got what we paid for.
This is not the direct Work of Obama, though he is integrally involved and culpable, nor the will of Congress but the choice of "we the peope": we took fear willingly as our guide to the future. Expected our reps to respond with impressive defensive stratigies based on security and not the highest ideals of this country. We got what we paid for.
Jul 10, 2013 23:09:57 #
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Speak for yourself. I opposed the "Patriot Act," (THERE is some irony) when practically all conservatives and a majority of liberals couldn't wait to pass it. This legislation, besides being of dubious constitutionality, is wide open for the abuse that is now happening. Once the government camel gets is nose under "We the People's" tent flap, it does not tamely withdraw.
rumitoid wrote:
Every ugly thing we ever had to rightfully say abo... (show quote)
Speak for yourself. I opposed the "Patriot Act," (THERE is some irony) when practically all conservatives and a majority of liberals couldn't wait to pass it. This legislation, besides being of dubious constitutionality, is wide open for the abuse that is now happening. Once the government camel gets is nose under "We the People's" tent flap, it does not tamely withdraw.
Jul 10, 2013 23:15:16 #
When the United States Constitution ensures the FREEDOM and LIBERTY to engage in the FREE MARKET SYSTEM that enables prosperity. Only a Christian moral society can be a FREE society, any other society is unworkable as individuals do not respect the rights and property of others.
Most liberals have absolutely no morals whatsoever and cannot live FREE having no respect for the rights of others. Such individuals must be controlled. C*******t agents seeking to take control of America subvert the United States Constitution.
Freedom requires strict compliance to the United States Constitution and the rule of LAW!
John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
Most liberals have absolutely no morals whatsoever and cannot live FREE having no respect for the rights of others. Such individuals must be controlled. C*******t agents seeking to take control of America subvert the United States Constitution.
Freedom requires strict compliance to the United States Constitution and the rule of LAW!
John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
Jul 10, 2013 23:23:37 #
banjojack wrote:
Speak for yourself. I opposed the "Patriot Act," (THERE is some irony) when practically all conservatives and a majority of liberals couldn't wait to pass it. This legislation, besides being of dubious constitutionality, is wide open for the abuse that is now happening. Once the government camel gets is nose under "We the People's" tent flap, it does not tamely withdraw.
You are not a country, banjojack, even if you feel like one. Lies about the "majority of liberals" approval; shame. In the second round of extentions, nine democrats and one independent opposed; the rest agreed. Third Round extentions: surprising Republican support, despite earlier resistance to everything with a whiff of Obama.
Jul 10, 2013 23:43:56 #
rumitoid wrote:
You are not a country, banjojack, even if you feel like one. Lies about the "majority of liberals" approval; shame. In the second round of extentions, nine democrats and one independent opposed; the rest agreed. Third Round extentions: surprising Republican support, despite earlier resistance to everything with a whiff of Obama.
He is responding to your wording in your first sentence, "Everything ugly [we] ever had....". As you use the word "we", you did not state "we" as a nation; therefor, it would be grammatically "we" individually, hence his statement, "I opposed the Patriot Act" is correct. He is one of the "we".
Jul 10, 2013 23:49:09 #
AuntiE wrote:
He is responding to your wording in your first sentence, "Everything ugly [we] ever had....". As you use the word "we", you did not state "we" as a nation; therefor, it would be grammatically "we" individually, hence his statement, "I opposed the Patriot Act" is correct. He is one of the "we".
Muchas gracias.
Jul 11, 2013 06:32:40 #
Michael Nestorick
Loc: Northeastern Pa.
I admit I don't like O'Bama but you have to also blame The Clinton's and the Bush's. You have to connect the dots . We the people have been deceived by our government for a very long time. They are all puppets who sold their soul to the evil rich elitest who really run this country, and are trying to destroy our Constitution and our American way of life.
Jul 11, 2013 12:32:28 #
"Either you're with us or you're against us" will be the downfall of the human race! Mankind's true progress as a species must evolve by a scientifically-based, technology driven, CONFLICT AVERSE and non-monetary system.
As such, I implore the cons and the libs to see the Zeitgeist video series starting with Zeitgeist the Movie, then Zeitgeist Addendum ending with Zeitgeist Moving Forward. Indeed, globally and drastic, well throughout change must occur if we are to survive as a species!
As such, I implore the cons and the libs to see the Zeitgeist video series starting with Zeitgeist the Movie, then Zeitgeist Addendum ending with Zeitgeist Moving Forward. Indeed, globally and drastic, well throughout change must occur if we are to survive as a species!
Jul 12, 2013 01:45:21 #
"Either you're with us or you're against us That is SO true. Either you are with the WORLD building up your treasures here, on this earth. Or you are not for laying up your treasures here, but rather in heaven. So in order to have a world that is FOR the same thing. A common faith but be. Right now the devil has this earth
and until that changes. 'WE' will not be for the same thing.
Jul 12, 2013 07:39:00 #
rumitoid wrote:
Every ugly thing we ever had to rightfully say abo... (show quote)
Yes, we did. I agree with your post entirely. I just wish more people would educate themselves on these realities but they are so preoccupied with hatred - which is *so* politically controllable.
Jul 12, 2013 07:48:28 #
banjojack wrote:
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Speak for yourself. I opposed the "Patriot Act," (THERE is some irony) when practically all conservatives and a majority of liberals couldn't wait to pass it. This legislation, besides being of dubious constitutionality, is wide open for the abuse that is now happening. Once the government camel gets is nose under "We the People's" tent flap, it does not tamely withdraw.
Speak for yourself. I opposed the "Patriot Act," (THERE is some irony) when practically all conservatives and a majority of liberals couldn't wait to pass it. This legislation, besides being of dubious constitutionality, is wide open for the abuse that is now happening. Once the government camel gets is nose under "We the People's" tent flap, it does not tamely withdraw.
I'm glad you did. I opposed the PATRIOT Act too. Not sure where you're getting your information from but a majority of liberals were actually opposed to it as well. Maybe you're referring specifically to the members of Congress who were rushed into v****g on the bill on the same day it was introduced as an emergency response to "clear and present danger" - which of course turned out to be a lie.
Jul 12, 2013 07:58:57 #
AuntiE wrote:
He is responding to your wording in your first sentence, "Everything ugly we ever had....". As you use the word "we", you did not state "we" as a nation; therefor, it would be grammatically "we" individually, hence his statement, "I opposed the Patriot Act" is correct. He is one of the "we".
I understood rumatoids wording and it appears you did to. Within his context "we" clearly implies we as a nation. I also understood banjojacks divergence from that context to announce his personal standing and I think rumatoid was only clarifying the difference.
BTW, grammar is an imperfect exercise in explaining our language it's not the end all. Just thought I'd add to the pedantic sidebar. ;)
Jul 12, 2013 08:05:19 #
Tom Fico wrote:
"Either you're with us or you're against us&q... (show quote)
I haven't see that series... but what you say makes sense to me. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the reference!
Jul 12, 2013 08:10:53 #
Michael Nestorick wrote:
I admit I don't like O'Bama but you have to also blame The Clinton's and the Bush's. You have to connect the dots . We the people have been deceived by our government for a very long time. They are all puppets who sold their soul to the evil rich elitest who really run this country, and are trying to destroy our Constitution and our American way of life.
I've tried to make that point many times... I might have been more successful in this forum had I not started by questioning an attack on Obama - now they all think I'm a fan. LOL. I *did* v**e for him because I think he was the better option available but you know what they say... lesser of two evils.
Jul 12, 2013 08:24:03 #
ABBAsFernando wrote:
i When the United States Constitution ensures the... (show quote)
LOL - 'always good for a laugh.
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