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If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking
Mar 6, 2015 19:40:51   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking
By: Bryan Fischer
Posted: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:19 AM

Bryan Fischer Host of "Focal Point"

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal... points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy

Smoking is legal but lethal. So is homosexuality.

Homosexuality is only legal in the United States because of an act of judicial tyranny committed by the Supreme Court in 2003, in which the Court imposed its view of sexual morality on the entire nation, something these same enlightened folk are always telling us should never be done by anyone to anybody at any time. At any rate, homosexuality is “legal,” just like cigarette smoking. And it’s just as deadly.

Our public policies toward both behaviors and habits should be similar if not the same. For instance, with regard to our youth, at a minimum we should educate them about the enormous health risks involved in both smoking and homosexuality, urge them not to dabble in either form of behavior, and provide resources to help them quit if they start.

We should not allow pro-homosexual student clubs on middle school and high school campuses any more than we would allow smoking clubs on school grounds.

Recent pieces in the New York Times and The Independent (UK) have stressed that the health consequences of cigarette smoking are far worse even than we thought.

Now the health risks of active engagement in the homosexual lifestyle are roughly comparable to the health risks associated with smoking. For instance, a study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology reported on the impact of homosexuality on life expectancy. Here’s how the Journal concluded its abstract on the study (emphasis mine):

In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal, hardly a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy, and knock his life expectancy back to what it was in in the 19th century.

From The Independent (emphasis mine):

Two in every three smokers are k**led by their habit, new research has found.

A study of 200,000 people in Australia – smokers and non-smokers over the age of 45 – has found that more people die from smoking tobacco than previously thought.

It was believed that around half of long-term smokers are k**led by smoking-related illnesses such as cancer and heart disease but the figure now stands at around 67%...

This means that, based on the study, the 10 million smokers in the UK could be expected to die 10 years earlier than those who never smoked or those who had quit and given their bodies enough time to recover.

From the New York Times (emphasis mine):

However bad you thought smoking was, it’s even worse.

A new study adds at least five diseases and 60,000 deaths a year to the toll taken by tobacco in the United States. Before the study, smoking was already blamed for nearly half a million deaths a year in this country from 21 diseases, including 12 types of cancer...

Research has shown that their death rates are two to three times higher than those of people who have never smoked, and that on average, they die more than a decade before nonsmokers.

Analyzing deaths among the participants from 2000 to 2011, the researchers found that, compared with people who had never smoked, smokers were about twice as likely to die from infections, kidney disease, respiratory ailments not previously linked to tobacco, and hypertensive heart disease, in which high blood pressure leads to heart failure. Smokers were also six times more likely to die from a rare illness caused by insufficient blood flow to the intestines...

“The smoking epidemic is still ongoing, and there is a need to evaluate how smoking is hurting us as a society, to support clinicians and policy making in public health,” said Brian D. Carter, an epidemiologist at the American Cancer Society and the first author of an article about the study, which appears in The New England Journal of Medicine. “It’s not a done story...”

In an editorial accompanying the article, Dr. Graham A. Colditz, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, said the new findings showed that officials in the United States had substantially underestimated the effect smoking has on public health. He said smokers, particularly those who depend on Medicaid, had not been receiving enough help to quit.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a smoking habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see tobacco deprive them of their health and their very lives.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a homosexual habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see homosexuality deprive them of their health and their very lives.

The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, again not a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, publishes a list of at least 10 health risks associated with homosexuality, lesbianism and t*********rism.

Here are just some of the health risks the GLMA lists for homosexuality: HIV/AIDS, STDS (syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, hepatitis, Human Papilloma V***s, herpes, etc), substance abuse, alcohol abuse, eating disorders, depression, anxiety, prostate cancer, testicular cancer, colon cancer, and anal cancer.

To borrow from the experts the New York Times quotes, we should “evaluate how (homosexuality) is hurting us as a society,” reconsider our “policy making in public health,” and make sure that homosexuals are “receiving enough help to quit.”

We want them to learn they don’t have to yield to homosexual impulses any more than they have to yield to the impulse to light up.

Let the conversation begin.

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Mar 6, 2015 19:52:53   #
mcmlx
 
Our government, as a supporter of the New World Order, will keep encouraging homosexuality because it fits with population control.
The writer makes an excellent case. However, don't look for anything to change...except in our personal lives.

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Mar 7, 2015 03:21:53   #
eden
 
"Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a homosexual habit ?"

The ignorance is palpable. A "habit"... Really? Here is an obverse question.
"Do we want to discourage young men and women from being brainwashed by the fundamentalist religious Luddites who would d**g them forward into the twelfth century?

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Mar 7, 2015 06:15:10   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
eden wrote:
"Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a homosexual habit ?"

The ignorance is palpable. A "habit"... Really? Here is an obverse question.
"Do we want to discourage young men and women from being brainwashed by the fundamentalist religious Luddites who would d**g them forward into the twelfth century?


One of my cousins and a neighbor I grew up with both chose the homo route and both are now dead from contacting AIDS !

Sounds like your saying no one should be allowed to warn folks that are going down that road to destruction !

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Mar 7, 2015 08:12:44   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
4430 wrote:
If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking
By: Bryan Fischer
Posted: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:19 AM

Bryan Fischer Host of "Focal Point"

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal... points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy

Smoking is legal but lethal. So is homosexuality.

Homosexuality is only legal in the United States because of an act of judicial tyranny committed by the Supreme Court in 2003, in which the Court imposed its view of sexual morality on the entire nation, something these same enlightened folk are always telling us should never be done by anyone to anybody at any time. At any rate, homosexuality is “legal,” just like cigarette smoking. And it’s just as deadly.

Our public policies toward both behaviors and habits should be similar if not the same. For instance, with regard to our youth, at a minimum we should educate them about the enormous health risks involved in both smoking and homosexuality, urge them not to dabble in either form of behavior, and provide resources to help them quit if they start.

We should not allow pro-homosexual student clubs on middle school and high school campuses any more than we would allow smoking clubs on school grounds.

Recent pieces in the New York Times and The Independent (UK) have stressed that the health consequences of cigarette smoking are far worse even than we thought.

Now the health risks of active engagement in the homosexual lifestyle are roughly comparable to the health risks associated with smoking. For instance, a study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology reported on the impact of homosexuality on life expectancy. Here’s how the Journal concluded its abstract on the study (emphasis mine):

In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal, hardly a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy, and knock his life expectancy back to what it was in in the 19th century.

From The Independent (emphasis mine):

Two in every three smokers are k**led by their habit, new research has found.

A study of 200,000 people in Australia – smokers and non-smokers over the age of 45 – has found that more people die from smoking tobacco than previously thought.

It was believed that around half of long-term smokers are k**led by smoking-related illnesses such as cancer and heart disease but the figure now stands at around 67%...

This means that, based on the study, the 10 million smokers in the UK could be expected to die 10 years earlier than those who never smoked or those who had quit and given their bodies enough time to recover.

From the New York Times (emphasis mine):

However bad you thought smoking was, it’s even worse.

A new study adds at least five diseases and 60,000 deaths a year to the toll taken by tobacco in the United States. Before the study, smoking was already blamed for nearly half a million deaths a year in this country from 21 diseases, including 12 types of cancer...

Research has shown that their death rates are two to three times higher than those of people who have never smoked, and that on average, they die more than a decade before nonsmokers.

Analyzing deaths among the participants from 2000 to 2011, the researchers found that, compared with people who had never smoked, smokers were about twice as likely to die from infections, kidney disease, respiratory ailments not previously linked to tobacco, and hypertensive heart disease, in which high blood pressure leads to heart failure. Smokers were also six times more likely to die from a rare illness caused by insufficient blood flow to the intestines...

“The smoking epidemic is still ongoing, and there is a need to evaluate how smoking is hurting us as a society, to support clinicians and policy making in public health,” said Brian D. Carter, an epidemiologist at the American Cancer Society and the first author of an article about the study, which appears in The New England Journal of Medicine. “It’s not a done story...”

In an editorial accompanying the article, Dr. Graham A. Colditz, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, said the new findings showed that officials in the United States had substantially underestimated the effect smoking has on public health. He said smokers, particularly those who depend on Medicaid, had not been receiving enough help to quit.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a smoking habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see tobacco deprive them of their health and their very lives.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a homosexual habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see homosexuality deprive them of their health and their very lives.

The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, again not a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, publishes a list of at least 10 health risks associated with homosexuality, lesbianism and t*********rism.

Here are just some of the health risks the GLMA lists for homosexuality: HIV/AIDS, STDS (syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, hepatitis, Human Papilloma V***s, herpes, etc), substance abuse, alcohol abuse, eating disorders, depression, anxiety, prostate cancer, testicular cancer, colon cancer, and anal cancer.

To borrow from the experts the New York Times quotes, we should “evaluate how (homosexuality) is hurting us as a society,” reconsider our “policy making in public health,” and make sure that homosexuals are “receiving enough help to quit.”

We want them to learn they don’t have to yield to homosexual impulses any more than they have to yield to the impulse to light up.

Let the conversation begin.
If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking ... (show quote)


How about we include Hillbilly hand fishing? Or dipping snuff? Or using cell phones in the middle of the aisle in Walmart? Or people who refuse to use turn signals? Or who tailgate you in the fast lane - when you're already exceeding the speed limit?

How about we include EVERY behavior - that irritates me? I KNOW that my moral beliefs are superior to everybody else's, because mine are RIGHT - and everybody else's wrong, so I should be the one to "re-educate" all the dufuses out there.

Personally, I'm a smoker and have been for years and I don't appreciate folks trying to "save" me - as though I'm unaware or incapable of making informed decisions. I mean, if society is going to mother everybody and decide what is safe and what isn't, then the list MUST get a whole lot bigger. Personal water craft, four wheelers and such, must be banned, as they are terribly unsafe and k**l and maim 1000's every year. All motor vehicles will need to be limited to 25 miles per hour maximum, because vehicle crashes k**l and maim more people in the USA, than ALL diseases combined - every single year.

What I find especially irritating - is that every single person who wants to "preach" to everybody else - has some unsafe behaviors themselves - and often behaviors that affect the safety of others as well - but who refuse to acknowledge their OWN errors.

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Mar 7, 2015 09:42:03   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
lpnmajor wrote:


What I find especially irritating - is that every single person who wants to "preach" to everybody else - has some unsafe behaviors themselves - and often behaviors that affect the safety of others as well - but who refuse to acknowledge their OWN errors.


Well the messenger post out the warning it is then up to the hearer to accept or reject that message !

Would you be equally irritated if someone walking by your house and saw you setting there not knowing the rest of the house was enveloped with fire and shouted out your house is on fire run and save yourself ??

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Mar 7, 2015 20:32:02   #
gilda grumble
 
Banning homos would be like asking Bill Clinton to stop smoking cigars or give up women...

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Mar 7, 2015 21:05:50   #
eden
 
4430 wrote:
Well the messenger post out the warning it is then up to the hearer to accept or reject that message !

Would you be equally irritated if someone walking by your house and saw you setting there not knowing the rest of the house was enveloped with fire and shouted out your house is on fire run and save yourself ??


Well there is such a thing as false equivalency but that is really a stretch.
Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about you would be a little less judgemental. If you really are gay then the chances of changing that would be roughly equivalent medically of changing your eye color just by deciding they should be another color.

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Mar 7, 2015 22:06:05   #
Kevyn
 
4430 wrote:
If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking
By: Bryan Fischer
Posted: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:19 AM

Bryan Fischer Host of "Focal Point"

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal... points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy

Smoking is legal but lethal. So is homosexuality.

Homosexuality is only legal in the United States because of an act of judicial tyranny committed by the Supreme Court in 2003, in which the Court imposed its view of sexual morality on the entire nation, something these same enlightened folk are always telling us should never be done by anyone to anybody at any time. At any rate, homosexuality is “legal,” just like cigarette smoking. And it’s just as deadly.

Our public policies toward both behaviors and habits should be similar if not the same. For instance, with regard to our youth, at a minimum we should educate them about the enormous health risks involved in both smoking and homosexuality, urge them not to dabble in either form of behavior, and provide resources to help them quit if they start.

We should not allow pro-homosexual student clubs on middle school and high school campuses any more than we would allow smoking clubs on school grounds.

Recent pieces in the New York Times and The Independent (UK) have stressed that the health consequences of cigarette smoking are far worse even than we thought.

Now the health risks of active engagement in the homosexual lifestyle are roughly comparable to the health risks associated with smoking. For instance, a study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology reported on the impact of homosexuality on life expectancy. Here’s how the Journal concluded its abstract on the study (emphasis mine):

In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

So this peer-reviewed scientific journal, hardly a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, points out that active participation in the homosexual lifestyle will rob a young man of somewhere between eight and 20 years of his life expectancy, and knock his life expectancy back to what it was in in the 19th century.

From The Independent (emphasis mine):

Two in every three smokers are k**led by their habit, new research has found.

A study of 200,000 people in Australia – smokers and non-smokers over the age of 45 – has found that more people die from smoking tobacco than previously thought.

It was believed that around half of long-term smokers are k**led by smoking-related illnesses such as cancer and heart disease but the figure now stands at around 67%...

This means that, based on the study, the 10 million smokers in the UK could be expected to die 10 years earlier than those who never smoked or those who had quit and given their bodies enough time to recover.

From the New York Times (emphasis mine):

However bad you thought smoking was, it’s even worse.

A new study adds at least five diseases and 60,000 deaths a year to the toll taken by tobacco in the United States. Before the study, smoking was already blamed for nearly half a million deaths a year in this country from 21 diseases, including 12 types of cancer...

Research has shown that their death rates are two to three times higher than those of people who have never smoked, and that on average, they die more than a decade before nonsmokers.

Analyzing deaths among the participants from 2000 to 2011, the researchers found that, compared with people who had never smoked, smokers were about twice as likely to die from infections, kidney disease, respiratory ailments not previously linked to tobacco, and hypertensive heart disease, in which high blood pressure leads to heart failure. Smokers were also six times more likely to die from a rare illness caused by insufficient blood flow to the intestines...

“The smoking epidemic is still ongoing, and there is a need to evaluate how smoking is hurting us as a society, to support clinicians and policy making in public health,” said Brian D. Carter, an epidemiologist at the American Cancer Society and the first author of an article about the study, which appears in The New England Journal of Medicine. “It’s not a done story...”

In an editorial accompanying the article, Dr. Graham A. Colditz, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, said the new findings showed that officials in the United States had substantially underestimated the effect smoking has on public health. He said smokers, particularly those who depend on Medicaid, had not been receiving enough help to quit.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a smoking habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see tobacco deprive them of their health and their very lives.

Do we want to discourage young men and women from developing a homosexual habit because we h**e them? Just the opposite. We love them and don’t want to see homosexuality deprive them of their health and their very lives.

The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, again not a part of the vast, rightwing conspiracy, publishes a list of at least 10 health risks associated with homosexuality, lesbianism and t*********rism.

Here are just some of the health risks the GLMA lists for homosexuality: HIV/AIDS, STDS (syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, hepatitis, Human Papilloma V***s, herpes, etc), substance abuse, alcohol abuse, eating disorders, depression, anxiety, prostate cancer, testicular cancer, colon cancer, and anal cancer.

To borrow from the experts the New York Times quotes, we should “evaluate how (homosexuality) is hurting us as a society,” reconsider our “policy making in public health,” and make sure that homosexuals are “receiving enough help to quit.”

We want them to learn they don’t have to yield to homosexual impulses any more than they have to yield to the impulse to light up.

Let the conversation begin.
If We Treated Homosexuality Like We Treat Smoking ... (show quote)
Perhaps the lower life expectancy is due to the stress and fear the mindless hatred focused on gay people adds to their lives. Following your assinine premis the people who are the source for this hatred should be held accountable for negligent homicide for the harm their ignorance and hatred causes.

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Mar 7, 2015 22:36:00   #
Data
 
let me add to this. We are being subjected ad campaigns telling us that we should v******te our children. Parents are whining that these parents should be forced to v******te. Well here's a thought. If these v*****es work, and say my kid has been v******ted then why should I worry. Your kid wasn't and mine was I should feel secure that my kid is safe, right? Maybe the v*****es don't really work and there is an underlining reason the Govt. is pushing this B/S on Americans. In fact the Govt. is starting a low key program in which it will be mandatory for the kids to be v******ted, then parents, and this will become law. Well Homosexuality is legal, yet this behavior is riddled with diseases and they are teachers some of them. You can go out and drink it is legal, and many states are legalizing pot. Critical thinking in this country is non exsistent.

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Mar 8, 2015 07:27:07   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
eden wrote:

Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about you would be a little less judgemental. If you really are gay then the chances of changing that would be roughly equivalent medically of changing your eye color just by deciding they should be another color.


Well I know your going to h**e this , but there are some that have left the homo lifestyle and have went on to life fulfilled lifestyles !

Two men I knew would more than likely still be alive had they not made the decision to go down the gay route as they got AIDS and their lives were cut short !

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Mar 8, 2015 07:33:46   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Kevyn wrote:
Perhaps the lower life expectancy is due to the stress and fear the mindless hatred focused on gay people adds to their lives. Following your assinine premis the people who are the source for this hatred should be held accountable for negligent homicide for the harm their ignorance and hatred causes.


Just because one believes that homosexuality is wrong doesn't equate to hatred !

Men and women were created for each other so if God created Adam and Bruce then none of us would be here having this discussion in the first cause once those two died that's been it !

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Mar 8, 2015 14:50:47   #
eden
 
4430 wrote:
Well I know your going to h**e this , but there are some that have left the homo lifestyle and have went on to life fulfilled lifestyles !

Two men I knew would more than likely still be alive had they not made the decision to go down the gay route as they got AIDS and their lives were cut short !


"There are some that have left the homo lifestyle and have went on to life fulfilled lifestyles!"
Really? Are you quoting some recognized scientific study or just repeating some folk tale from the hinterland?
And your two friends, red blooded, Cope chewing, whiskey drinking lady k**ler American males were some how tricked into seeing "Broke Back Mountain" thinking it was a great western movie, and it all went downhill after that?

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Mar 8, 2015 14:59:17   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
eden wrote:
"There are some that have left the homo lifestyle and have went on to life fulfilled lifestyles!"
Really? Are you quoting some recognized scientific study or just repeating some folk tale from the hinterland?


Ya can believe it or not I guess it really doesn't matter but I saw several live interviews of those that left that lifestyle !

The real kicker is they are not treated very well by those that stay !

I guess that just lowers the availability of provincial conquests !

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