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Mar 2, 2015 16:55:53   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
The only reason the city is upset is because regular citizens are helping and the poor bureaurats may loose out in regulating what the less fortunate receive.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/02/sacramento-targets-pay-it-forward-group

Good Samaritans Warned: Stop Giving Away Free Things or Face $1,000 Fine

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In Sacramento, a group of charitable housemates has been holding free giveaways on their front lawn. All recently homeless, the housemates say they benefitted from the kindness of strangers in their times of need and now want to pay the goodwill forward by distributing donated goods to others. But the city is trying to shut down the operation, which it says counts as an illegal garage sale.

Under Sacramento city code, residents may only hold one lawn or garage sale per year; holding too many sales will yield a preliminary warning, followed by a fine of up to $1,000 upon the second offense. Kate Worsley and her housemates received a warning from the city last week, according to CBS Sacramento. Officials say the home has been holding too many garage sales and must be considered a business, which the neighborhood isn't zoned for.

Worsley insists that what they're doing isn't a sale at all, but a giveaway. All items, from used baby toys to canned goods to romance novels, are donated from members of the community—the housemates solicit them via a "pay-it-forward" Facebook group—and given away for free. Cash donations are accepted from those who want to give, with the money going to provide Sunday sack lunches for the homeless.

But altruism can be such an eyesore, complain neighbors like Brent Sanchez, who called the whole business "kind of tacky."

Worsley and her housemates are now considering whether to fight the city's code enforcement or start holding the giveaways at different homes around the area. Regardless, "code enforcement will not stop me from helping people," Worsley posted to the "Pay It Forward In Sacramento Ca" Facebook group. "I am still taking donations to help provide the people in need with the things they need," she told me in a message.

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Mar 2, 2015 17:04:58   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
AuntiE wrote:
The only reason the city is upset is because regular citizens are helping and the poor bureaurats may loose out in regulating what the less fortunate receive.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/02/sacramento-targets-pay-it-forward-group

Good Samaritans Warned: Stop Giving Away Free Things or Face $1,000 Fine

David Silver/Flickr

In Sacramento, a group of charitable housemates has been holding free giveaways on their front lawn. All recently homeless, the housemates say they benefitted from the kindness of strangers in their times of need and now want to pay the goodwill forward by distributing donated goods to others. But the city is trying to shut down the operation, which it says counts as an illegal garage sale.

Under Sacramento city code, residents may only hold one lawn or garage sale per year; holding too many sales will yield a preliminary warning, followed by a fine of up to $1,000 upon the second offense. Kate Worsley and her housemates received a warning from the city last week, according to CBS Sacramento. Officials say the home has been holding too many garage sales and must be considered a business, which the neighborhood isn't zoned for.

Worsley insists that what they're doing isn't a sale at all, but a giveaway. All items, from used baby toys to canned goods to romance novels, are donated from members of the community—the housemates solicit them via a "pay-it-forward" Facebook group—and given away for free. Cash donations are accepted from those who want to give, with the money going to provide Sunday sack lunches for the homeless.

But altruism can be such an eyesore, complain neighbors like Brent Sanchez, who called the whole business "kind of tacky."

Worsley and her housemates are now considering whether to fight the city's code enforcement or start holding the giveaways at different homes around the area. Regardless, "code enforcement will not stop me from helping people," Worsley posted to the "Pay It Forward In Sacramento Ca" Facebook group. "I am still taking donations to help provide the people in need with the things they need," she told me in a message.
The only reason the city is upset is because regul... (show quote)


Good ole California,they have a law for everything.

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Mar 2, 2015 17:38:44   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
Hemiman wrote:
Good ole California,they have a law for everything.

This crap makes me sick. I'm all for helping somebody in need and it just doesn't make any sense at all why people would complain about somebody doing as such. How many damn commercials are on TV wanting your hard earned money for other countries do you see. It never ends, and somebody wants to complain because it makes his neighborhood look bad...WTF! I think what this neighborhood in Commifornia is doing is awesome. I hope they continue their "pay it forward" campaign.

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Mar 2, 2015 17:49:36   #
Jeffhunter
 
AuntiE wrote:
The only reason the city is upset is because regular citizens are helping and the poor bureaurats may loose out in regulating what the less fortunate receive.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/02/sacramento-targets-pay-it-forward-group

Good Samaritans Warned: Stop Giving Away Free Things or Face $1,000 Fine

David Silver/Flickr

In Sacramento, a group of charitable housemates has been holding free giveaways on their front lawn. All recently homeless, the housemates say they benefitted from the kindness of strangers in their times of need and now want to pay the goodwill forward by distributing donated goods to others. But the city is trying to shut down the operation, which it says counts as an illegal garage sale.

Under Sacramento city code, residents may only hold one lawn or garage sale per year; holding too many sales will yield a preliminary warning, followed by a fine of up to $1,000 upon the second offense. Kate Worsley and her housemates received a warning from the city last week, according to CBS Sacramento. Officials say the home has been holding too many garage sales and must be considered a business, which the neighborhood isn't zoned for.

Worsley insists that what they're doing isn't a sale at all, but a giveaway. All items, from used baby toys to canned goods to romance novels, are donated from members of the community—the housemates solicit them via a "pay-it-forward" Facebook group—and given away for free. Cash donations are accepted from those who want to give, with the money going to provide Sunday sack lunches for the homeless.

But altruism can be such an eyesore, complain neighbors like Brent Sanchez, who called the whole business "kind of tacky."

Worsley and her housemates are now considering whether to fight the city's code enforcement or start holding the giveaways at different homes around the area. Regardless, "code enforcement will not stop me from helping people," Worsley posted to the "Pay It Forward In Sacramento Ca" Facebook group. "I am still taking donations to help provide the people in need with the things they need," she told me in a message.
The only reason the city is upset is because regul... (show quote)

They are turning their front yards into a place of business thus violating city code. They can find a church parking lot to do their giveaways from. I think it's a great way for people to help others in need. I've never had a yard sale in my life, I either give the s**t away or take it to the dump.

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Mar 2, 2015 18:03:25   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
This isn't really a problem. Just call Goodwill or most other charitable organizations and they'll come, pick it up and distribute to the needy. I'm sure they know that being they were recently homeless. Seems like they were looking for a town ordinance controversy. This could be a False F**g scenario with the goal of getting us anti-government enthusiasts to donate to their cause.

AuntiE wrote:
The only reason the city is upset is because regular citizens are helping and the poor bureaurats may loose out in regulating what the less fortunate receive.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/02/sacramento-targets-pay-it-forward-group

Good Samaritans Warned: Stop Giving Away Free Things or Face $1,000 Fine

David Silver/Flickr

In Sacramento, a group of charitable housemates has been holding free giveaways on their front lawn. All recently homeless, the housemates say they benefitted from the kindness of strangers in their times of need and now want to pay the goodwill forward by distributing donated goods to others. But the city is trying to shut down the operation, which it says counts as an illegal garage sale.

Under Sacramento city code, residents may only hold one lawn or garage sale per year; holding too many sales will yield a preliminary warning, followed by a fine of up to $1,000 upon the second offense. Kate Worsley and her housemates received a warning from the city last week, according to CBS Sacramento. Officials say the home has been holding too many garage sales and must be considered a business, which the neighborhood isn't zoned for.

Worsley insists that what they're doing isn't a sale at all, but a giveaway. All items, from used baby toys to canned goods to romance novels, are donated from members of the community—the housemates solicit them via a "pay-it-forward" Facebook group—and given away for free. Cash donations are accepted from those who want to give, with the money going to provide Sunday sack lunches for the homeless.

But altruism can be such an eyesore, complain neighbors like Brent Sanchez, who called the whole business "kind of tacky."

Worsley and her housemates are now considering whether to fight the city's code enforcement or start holding the giveaways at different homes around the area. Regardless, "code enforcement will not stop me from helping people," Worsley posted to the "Pay It Forward In Sacramento Ca" Facebook group. "I am still taking donations to help provide the people in need with the things they need," she told me in a message.
The only reason the city is upset is because regul... (show quote)

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Mar 2, 2015 18:03:36   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
AuntiE wrote:
The only reason the city is upset is because regular citizens are helping and the poor bureaurats may loose out in regulating what the less fortunate receive.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/02/sacramento-targets-pay-it-forward-group

Good Samaritans Warned: Stop Giving Away Free Things or Face $1,000 Fine

David Silver/Flickr

In Sacramento, a group of charitable housemates has been holding free giveaways on their front lawn. All recently homeless, the housemates say they benefitted from the kindness of strangers in their times of need and now want to pay the goodwill forward by distributing donated goods to others. But the city is trying to shut down the operation, which it says counts as an illegal garage sale.

Under Sacramento city code, residents may only hold one lawn or garage sale per year; holding too many sales will yield a preliminary warning, followed by a fine of up to $1,000 upon the second offense. Kate Worsley and her housemates received a warning from the city last week, according to CBS Sacramento. Officials say the home has been holding too many garage sales and must be considered a business, which the neighborhood isn't zoned for.

Worsley insists that what they're doing isn't a sale at all, but a giveaway. All items, from used baby toys to canned goods to romance novels, are donated from members of the community—the housemates solicit them via a "pay-it-forward" Facebook group—and given away for free. Cash donations are accepted from those who want to give, with the money going to provide Sunday sack lunches for the homeless.

But altruism can be such an eyesore, complain neighbors like Brent Sanchez, who called the whole business "kind of tacky."

Worsley and her housemates are now considering whether to fight the city's code enforcement or start holding the giveaways at different homes around the area. Regardless, "code enforcement will not stop me from helping people," Worsley posted to the "Pay It Forward In Sacramento Ca" Facebook group. "I am still taking donations to help provide the people in need with the things they need," she told me in a message.
The only reason the city is upset is because regul... (show quote)


Insanity. It is pure insanity. We are the most generous people on the planet without being forced by the govt. Leave it to the govt. to stop something that is simple and decent. God forbid people trying to help others. It does not surprise me this is in California. Those folks are crazy. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Mar 2, 2015 18:32:35   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
UncleJesse wrote:
This isn't really a problem. Just call Goodwill or most other charitable organizations and they'll come, pick it up and distribute to the needy. I'm sure they know that being they were recently homeless. Seems like they were looking for a town ordinance controversy. This could be a False F**g scenario with the goal of getting us anti-government enthusiasts to donate to their cause.


Actually, Goodwill places a majority of donations in their stores for sale. Further, the CEO of Goodwill is V E R Y highly paid. If you are going to follow your advice, use Salvation Army or AmVets.

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Mar 2, 2015 18:37:20   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Jeffh****r wrote:
They are turning their front yards into a place of business thus violating city code. They can find a church parking lot to do their giveaways from. I think it's a great way for people to help others in need. I've never had a yard sale in my life, I either give the s**t away or take it to the dump.


A place of business is where money is exchanged for goods. There is no money exchanging hands, hence not a business.

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Mar 2, 2015 18:44:33   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
AuntiE wrote:
A place of business is where money is exchanged for goods. There is no money exchanging hands, hence not a business.


:thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2015 18:44:56   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
AuntiE wrote:
Actually, Goodwill places a majority of donations in their stores for sale. Further, the CEO of Goodwill is V E R Y highly paid. If you are going to follow your advice, use Salvation Army or AmVets.


:thumbup:

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Mar 2, 2015 18:55:07   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
Actually, Goodwill places a majority of donations in their stores for sale. Further, the CEO of Goodwill is V E R Y highly paid. If you are going to follow your advice, use Salvation Army or AmVets.




I got turned off on Good Will a long time ago when I found out what they are doing. I will not give then the time of day. I think the idea of using a church parking lot will get you in trouble too. They have laws about everything in California and most of them are there just to harass people and they bring them out when they can cause problems for people they don't like.

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Mar 2, 2015 18:55:11   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
Seems to me this is an issue for the local HOA not city government. But then I'm not at all familiar with Sacramento other than its mayor was a former NBA point guard.

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Mar 2, 2015 19:04:45   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
AuntiE wrote:
Actually, Goodwill places a majority of donations in their stores for sale. Further, the CEO of Goodwill is V E R Y highly paid. If you are going to follow your advice, use Salvation Army or AmVets.


It's reported the Salvation Army (SA) was created by a 33rd Degree Freemason (William Booth) who went to the House of Rothschild to secure funding for the SA. Freemasonry and the Rothschild's are linked to the Illuminati - a known Luciferian organization. Just saying ...

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Mar 2, 2015 19:55:13   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
UncleJesse wrote:
This isn't really a problem. Just call Goodwill or most other charitable organizations and they'll come, pick it up and distribute to the needy. I'm sure they know that being they were recently homeless. Seems like they were looking for a town ordinance controversy. This could be a False F**g scenario with the goal of getting us anti-government enthusiasts to donate to their cause.


Say UncleJesse, h**e to bust your bubble on good will.
That is a company owned and operated by one person. And there is no good will involved in it. They sell everything they can salvage. And pay there workers less than minimum wage. The owner of the company receives more that $250,000.oo per year. How that for a charitable organization?

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Mar 2, 2015 20:09:44   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
AuntiE wrote:
A place of business is where money is exchanged for goods. There is no money exchanging hands, hence not a business.


You are so right AuntiE. But I fear the city powers that are, will take the donated moneys received, and somehow make that come out to a business. Because after all, the money is changing hands. I don't think the city cares one wit what the citizen care about, or what they need. Then they can all stand up and say, ( see, we are just making sure our neighborhoods are safe and commercial free. )

RETW

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