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China submarines outnumber U.S. fleet
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Feb 26, 2015 14:41:21   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
at41 wrote:
The article says the USA has 71 submarines and China more than 60. It further states that their subs are inferior and do not carry Nuclear Missiles. What was his point, that we should build more cheaper, inferior subs to have more subs than China?


Yep, very observant of you, we should definitely build cheaper and inferior subs. Congratulations! You win the STUPID Award!

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Feb 26, 2015 15:13:23   #
Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs
 
at41 wrote:
The article says the USA has 71 submarines and China more than 60. It further states that their subs are inferior and do not carry Nuclear Missiles. What was his point, that we should build more cheaper, inferior subs to have more subs than China?


We all know that quality tops quantity (diesel/snorkel ?) any day of the week. Moreover. we need a breakdown of their force structure and what PRECISELY are their capabilities in a possible war w/ the USN. So far, no Polaris types. What about cruise missiles? Apparently none of these questions were posed in the article nor elaborated on.

I wouldn't get too exercised over this topic just yet.

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Feb 26, 2015 15:38:17   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
JMHO wrote:
We never got chased into port, or picked up coming out (Charleston)...but, we did have to shake them when out-chopping from the Med after t***siting the Strait of Gibraltar. Also, chased/tracked some Foxtrots in the med...piss them off so they would go seek refuge in Alexandria Egypt.


Ha, my captain didn't engage with them much...he always wanted to run over the Green Peace jack offs...as I sat throttleman...I could always tell by aggressive bells and bell changes that we chasing after Green Peace. The bell log, needless to say, may have missed a couple of changes.

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Feb 26, 2015 15:43:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Mr Shako wrote:
We all know that quality tops quantity (diesel/snorkel ?) any day of the week. Moreover. we need a breakdown of their force structure and what PRECISELY are their capabilities in a possible war w/ the USN. So far, no Polaris types. What about cruise missiles? Apparently none of these questions were posed in the article nor elaborated on.

I wouldn't get too exercised over this topic just yet.
Just give Obama a bit more time. He'll make sure our navy would be defeated by a small flotilla of sampans.

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Feb 27, 2015 09:34:49   #
Blacksheep
 
WhosetheBoss wrote:
Remember Clinton's big trip to China when He opened trade with them, signed NAFTA which just about k**led US Manufacturing. Almost all our secrets were given to them, they are now almost the single source of our supplies for the production of our fleet. Obama continued all this by outlawing coal and trying to shut down smelting of metal, so most anything modern we build has China's hand in it. What in the hell did they think would happen??? Republicans were just as guilty licking their lips because their big corporations now had a cheap labor base.

Major problem with this is if we ever end up at war with China, there will be a 12 to 18 month lag to bring manufacturing back online here.

Thanks US Government!!!! NOT....
Remember Clinton's big trip to China when He opene... (show quote)


It was Richard Nixon who opened trade with China. Succeeding presidents merely continued it. No argument on NAFTA, a lot of private interests made huge fortunes by giving away our technology and manufacturing capability to China.

So many worthy of firing squads.....

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