saloopo Loc: Colorado

I knew you were so lazy that you would find an excuse, excuse, excuse.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

jelun: Your full of S**t! So is your usurper....did he thank you and the t*****rs who made it possible for him to stay in office?

jelun

I am sorry, I am busy celebrating.

jelun

Yes, he thanks me every time he vetoes some stupidity, signs an EO...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Why would anyone believe this administration about net neutrality after all the lies about the ACA. You would have to be a complete i***t. Oh that's right. Look who believes Obama.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Apparently the Net Neutrality bill and regulations (hundreds of pages of regulations) have been unavailable for reading, just the White House spin on what they claim to say. Rather like Obama Care don't you think?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Exactly what I mean. I***ts like jelun believe it's true because Obama says so. Amazing to me. Obama is just a politician for gods sake not God.

Ve'hoe

Aca wasnt a v**e it was reconciliation,,, without a v**e,, not a single republican v**e on it.... all dems,,, through trickery/c***ting...


From Forbes,, lest you "conveniently" forget as liars, uh er, progressie liberals are so wont to do....

"We have encountered many physicians and friends who don’t recall or recognize just how many interesting coincidences had to fall into place for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) to pass both houses of Congress and gain President Obama’s signature (March 23, 2010). This post serves as an informational overview – a reminder – as to how it all happened and is not meant in any way to be a judgment on the process – however convoluted – or on the final product...

Now the Democrats had a safe majority in the House and a filibuster-proof supermajority of 60 in the Senate. That scenario lasted only four months before fate intervened. Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died on August 25, 2009, leaving the Democrats, once again, with 59 seats (counting the two Independents). Exactly one month later, on September 25, Democrat Paul Kirk was appointed interim senator from Massachusetts to serve until the special e******n set for January 19, 2010 – once again giving the Democrats that 60th v**e. But the intrigue was just beginning....

The House had previously passed a similar, although not identical bill on November 7, 2009, on a 220 – 215 v**e. One Republican v**ed “aye,” on that bill,,, and 39 Democrats were against.

There didn’t seem to be an urgent need for Democrats to reconcile both bills immediately, because the Massachusetts special e******n (scheduled for January 19, 2010) was almost certain to fall to the Democrat, Attorney General Martha Coakley. After all, no Republican had been elected to the U.S. Senate from the Bay State since Edward Brooke in 1972 – 38 years before! But in yet another twist of fate, Republican Scott Brown ran his campaign as the 41st senator against ObamaCare and shocked nearly everyone by winning the special e******n by 110,000 v**es.

That left House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Obama in a dilemma. Everyone assumed that the Christmas Eve 2009 Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months previously. But now that strategy wouldn’t work, because the Democrats no longer had the 60th v**e in the Senate to end debate. What to do? They decided to have the House take up the identical bill that the Senate passed on Christmas Eve. It passed on March 21, 2010, by a 219 – 212 v**e. This time, no Republicans came on board, and 34 Democrats v**ed against. President Obama signed the ACA legislation two days later on March 23."


In a process called reconcilliation,,, the rules were changed so the senate could "c***t" the system and limit debate on budgetary impacting bills.... thereby torpedoing the Houses rights and mission of monitoring the finanes and budgets of bills....


"Policy-wise, the reconciliation process is simply not intended for comprehensive pieces of legislation like health care reform.

The Senate rules allow reconciliation bills to pass with a simple majority and limited debate on matters that pertain to the budget — something the Senate saw as too important to be weighed down by partisanship. Since reconciliation bills must pertain to the budget, the Senate is not allowed to use them for matters that would set policy. For this reason, some lawmakers have warned that a reconciliation health bill would have to leave out important provisions (such as consumer protections), resulting in a “Swiss cheese” bill."


Similar,, not identical,,, and the Senate changed it,without sending it back to the house, like they are supposed to.

Laws originate in the house,,, regardless of what you dems want to lie about,, not the senate

Rules for geting a bill signed into law are:

Senate Floor Action:

The Bill, that came from the house, through comittee, is debated, and amendments may be added. If a majority v**es in favor of the bill, it is and must be returned to the house for debate,, this wasnt done..

Conference Committee: no house conference committee happened
If the House rejects any of the changes, the bill goes to a conference committee of members from both houses. It works out a compromise.

V**e on Compromise: didnt happen

Both houses must approve changes made by the conference committee. If approved, the bill goes to the president.



Sorry to have to introduce you to the actual procedures, but it appears necessary, lest you continue to lie, until your skewed version of what happened is actually believed by people like you,,, and even dumber,,, you know the rank and file democrats that Gruber mocked..


you and the dems lied and c***ted through a tyranical majority,, get ready for it to come back at you.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Yes, VeHoe, what is it you "we" people are going to do? You gonna strut around with your gun and holster on? You gonna find the bad guys and shoot them with your little pop guns. Or maybe, you'll go out and shoot'em up all the folks you think should be working, like the ones out driving around during what you perceive as peak work hours, or maybe just the black ones. What is it exactly that you "we" people are going to do??

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Now that you have YOUR tyrannical majority in there, why not get rid of the things you don't like?

Ve'hoe

Imigration reform,, was amnesty,,, and if fell like all stupid purely partisan crap law should fall.

So president richard head, produced his "Anti-constitutional" EO... that he is about to get shoved back up his "arse".....

Lies, lies, and more lies,,,,,, I cant wait to watch you prunish face screw itseld into anger and indignation when the pendulum swings the other way.

I especially like it when you said the other day, that you (meaning all libs) 'bey the law and abide by the legal and lawful decisions' because you 'beleive or tust in the system'
(wh**ever the hell it was you said,,, I didnt quote it, because a. It was a lie,,, and b. It was almost always ridiculous.

You libs, only like the law, when you c***t to get it enacted,,, like aca,,,,, and you only abide by the decision when it fits what you wanted to have happen,, like prop 8 in Californias two popular v**es,,,

So,,, once again,,, caught you lying,,, but thats no trick,,, all you say is crap, lies, and disinformation.

Ve'hoe

Have you ever been in a gunfight richard head????


Because I have,,, and yes, I can do it, and no it isnt anything like the pussified liberal rendition you tried to pass off....yes you can k**l bad guys,, and fight evil,, but you lack the quintessential characteristics of a successful fighter,, "Brains and Balls"


Why dont you man up,, get into the military, go out and actually fight a war with bad guys and armed "islamics" (Obama your hero, has one stirred up for you right now!!! No waiting!!!)

Once "YOU" know what "YOU" are talking about, (assuming you live) we will talk again.

Until that time,,, just hide behind somebodies skirts and shiver like a dog crapping a peach pit, ms liberal....it is all you are capable of,,,liberal she-male

Ve'hoe

Good idea,,,,,, gopher balls

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

False posturing by a "soldier". I find it embarrassing. You'd be surprised what we understand "hero". Say all that to a General, face to face. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ve'hoe

It wasnt "posturing" just stating fact... 'fact' that you are unaware of....

"I can do the job,,,, and you are a pussy..... the end"

But since, of the two of us,,, I am the only one who has actually worked with Generals,,,, and they arent as wussified and stupid as you are,, liberal she male..... my factual experience trumps your wanna be bs,,,,

How does it feel to be so envious of real men?? knowing you were a coward when you were needed???