alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

welcome aboard Kay, didn't you hear polosi said she was going to drain that swamp all she did was quadruple the alligators so it would look like there was less water as for this "leader"he was not elected because he knew anything but because he is an obedient puppet

Kay

Thanks Alex. Ah yes! OB is a puppet....to his father's dreams I believe. He's getting back at the white people for all the bad things he thinks they did to black people
in the past. He's a misinformed, angry black man. I'm sorry for the dumbing down of America that allowed such a man to get elected to the office of president. As for Pelosi, I like the way you described her, she and her cohorts are as vicious as a hungry alligator tearing America to pieces. I enjoy reading your thoughts.

oldmadlady Loc: louisiana

And if 2014 is not too late. :cry:

usmc4

Yes, the House Speaker would be next if both were thrown out. Welcome to you.

TheCracker

Twins???
That photo indicates a real problem maintaining balance. Could easily wind up face down in dirt. Well maybe not face in dirt.... Hmmm.

Kay

I understand that if the President and his Vice are impeached all the bills he signed would be still in place and getting rid of all that would be time consuming. They could be thrown out of office if fraud was proven re the birth certificate (which is still under investigation). This nation is in deep doo doo and something needs to be done about it. Where are all our representatives they're rather quiet and it's past time to make some real noise and force something be done. It's almost too late.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, Kay: I suspect it would depend upon what he was Impeached for re: whether or not all the bills he signed would still be in place. If he was removed from office by the Senate because he was not constitutionally qualified to hold the office, I would believe everything he signed would legally be void ab initio. If the Alabama Supreme Court should ultimately find that Obama is not constitutionally qualified to hold the office, then that decision could be enrolled in every state in the union pursuant to the full faith and credit clause of the constitution. The effect would probably be that Alabama would vitiate all of Obama's v**es in the last e******n and Romney would be declared the winner in Alabama. If sufficient states did likewise, so that Romney ended up with more e*******l v**es, then Romney would have the standing to claim the office. Maybe the e*******l college v**e would control notwithstanding, I'm not sure, except that I am confident it has never been previously decided and should be a first blush issue. But it is potentially possible that the states could effectively take Obama out of office, but I suspect the Congress would be involved in the process even if Impeachment was used and qualification was the single issue of the Impeachment bill of particulars. As to handling the bills signed into law, I don't see that as too big a problem. In 1661 King Charles II came back from exile and installed a new Parliament. The newly summoned Parliament of 1661 by "Restoration Act Rescissory" annulled every piece of legislation passed by the Covenanting Parliaments between 1639 and 1651. So if the Brits could do it 350 years ago, it would seem we should be able to follow the president and accomplish the same thing. Moreover, as I said above, if he is not constitutionally qualified, every piece of legislation and all his executive orders should be void ab initio. Just my opinion.

Kay

Any way to do it would be fine with me. It's time to get it going before he totally destroys this country. I still find it hard to believe people v**ed for him a second time. How sick is that? It didn't take much to buy them did it? free sell phones, a debit card for Walmart and a paid for stay at home job doing nothing and a raise for each new child. They didn't realize what a prison they got them selves into. The plantation is still in existence and OB is working hard to send the rest of us onto it. T***h will out....God is in Control!

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

We should probably hand this off to one of our research gurus; however, let me throw out some (non researched) thoughts.

Even if the sitting president was found to be ineligible, Romney would not become president. The ticket you v**e for is by party not individual person; hence my belief you would end up with Biden. More to be addressed on this further in the post.

Again, not researched, my belief is, if declared ineligible for the office, all EOs, Cabinet appointments, Judicial appointments, and other Executive appointments would become null and void. Various legislation would be a major question. His signing it, if ineligible, is a very sticky area. Would laws passed by Congress become null and void just because he signed them? Would they remain in effect as they were passed by duly elected representatives? Biden would simply hall them out and sign them. The massive confusion would be ....words fail me (pretty scary that).

Now, on to a subject near and dear to me. When people accuse some of wanting to "go backwards", I willingly raise my hand. I want to go back to the original b****ting form. Our first e******ns did NOT group candidates by party but by position they sought. Candidates for President were listed and followed by candidates for Vice President. Individuals v**ed for their candidate of choice not a party. STOP, before you even try the, "You can't have President and VP from different parties." Such a statement has no basis in fact. The Commonwealth of Virginia, several decades ago, had a governor and Ltg from opposing parties. Last time I checked they are still around. We frequently talk about "checks and balances", what better way to have such a practice. Just more of my wonky ideas.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, AuntiE: Let me potentially throw in another factor. Isn't there some kind of time limit on how long a president has to sign a bill before it becomes obsolete and void? I would think there should be some time limit, of at least a congressional term. But I don't know as I haven't tried to look it up. And, if the signature is void ab initio, maybe the bills would become time barred. In the alternative, do bills become law automatically if not signed or vetoed by the president by a certain time limit? Again, I don't know, but just have a vague memory of both the issues.

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

they don't automatically become law that is known as a pocket veto

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, AuntiE: Thanks, I told you I didn't know the answer, I just remembered something about it. If that is the case, then if his signature would be found to be null and void ab initio, then it would appear all the bills he signed into law would be considered to be pocket vetoed, without any valid signature. Eh?

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

that would be my guess but only a guess

Kay

Hopefully all the problems this administration has dumped on America will wake us up to how wonderfully put together our government was. If they don't teach real American History in the schools parents need to do it at home. Our young folks go off to college not knowing what they truly have and are easily swayed to the left. Most of them are totally unprepared and buy into the liberal left's lies. God bless us all! We need it!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I think we need to know what the Constitution says about signing of bills. The document says that he has 10 days in which to sign or veto, but if they go out of session during that period he does not have to sign and that becomes a pocket veto.

I jumped in here because I want people to know that he has a specified amount of time to sign or veto and that period is 10 days, unless the Congress adjourns for the session.