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Feb 8, 2015 23:35:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Poor little Rumitoid... I see the self pity party is still going strong!

rumitoid wrote:
Nice detective work, Ginnyt. Now provide the actual sites to the quotes you assigned to me. You cannot! Your lies and h**e for me exposed. Pathetic. Get a life. Or if you can back what you claim I said, then do so. Until then, shut your lying and loathsome mouth. You are a spiritual malady.





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Feb 8, 2015 23:40:02   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Poor little Rumitoid... I see the self pity party is still going strong!


Accurate read of your vindictive post. Rock on, little girl. You are just what I needed to wake up again: a down and out h**er!

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Feb 9, 2015 01:27:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
So...does this mean that I gave you offense? So, you began this with not taking offense, but here you are offended.... and I have no pity for you at this your most recent self pity party!

rumitoid wrote:
This is not absolute. I am testimony to that fact. Somehow I have reverted to taking offense. The usual entrenched ad hominem has no effect but others have found my buttons I thought in a sealed panel. It is annoying and embarrassing. I can be hurt by people here and I do not like it. Just a year or so back, I would have felt pity for one in my pathetic state of today. What happened? I am still actively working on that cause.

What I know from a few decades of personal experience is that taking offense is self-delusion and the most dangerous element on this planet. There is nothing worse under the sun. Wh**ever is considered sacred or good cannot possibly be diminished or tainted by others. To believe so actually permits that diminishment and taint to be possible. Think about it.

Yet offense taken comes in usual smaller magnitudes. A good friend of many years suddenly doubts your word. A spouse accuses you of betrayal. We can be hurt by these things, take offense, or be mature, looking to help free them of their pain and delusion. Taking offense will always have a measure of t***h but that is to free us from our own defects." .
This is not absolute. I am testimony to that fact.... (show quote)


rumitoid wrote:
Accurate read of your vindictive post. Rock on, little girl. You are just what I needed to wake up again: a down and out h**er!

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Feb 9, 2015 01:36:37   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
So...does this mean that I gave you offense? So, you began this with not taking offense, but here you are offended.... and I have no pity for you at this your most recent self pity party!


Read it again. I am not offended by your contrived attacks; I am merely exposing your skullduggery. Big difference. But I also admitted from the initial thread that I do now take offense, something that is embarrassing and annoying. You should read the thread before trying to make a nonsensical point.

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Feb 9, 2015 01:46:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Gee... now we are at a cross road.... Give up!

rumitoid wrote:
Read it again. I am not offended by your contrived attacks; I am merely exposing your skullduggery. Big difference. But I also admitted from the initial thread that I do now take offense, something that is embarrassing and annoying. You should read the thread before trying to make a nonsensical point.



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Feb 9, 2015 03:19:18   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Gee... now we are at a cross road.... Give up!


Take your usual path.

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Feb 9, 2015 03:30:43   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
Take your usual path.



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Feb 9, 2015 08:48:25   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
AuntiE wrote:
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No, you are not working on the cause.

I know the cause, as do you. Grief for each individual has its own time frame. I, personally, do not believe you have resolved yours, nor have taken the appropriate steps to resolve it. Think about how and what your lost friend would counsel you and think.


We can prey to God that Rumi takes your advice to heart. His pain is eating away at his soul and happiness, and he is much too good a person, under that facade to let that happen.

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Feb 9, 2015 22:54:55   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are out of sequence.....this one is supposed to be about religion.... Your last pity party was only a few days ago....not more than 2 weeks. I know that your birthday is soon or has passed (by the way, nice touch in begging recognition on that), so perhaps making a list to rotate would be helpful.


For one saying this one is supposed to be about religion you certainly do not show any of the religious traits. And of course all the other trolls chime in and agree with you. Shame on you all.

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Feb 9, 2015 22:59:35   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
I see that you have taken one of my quotes as your motto:

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

Please take his words to heart. Stop assuming you know anything personal about anyone. If you have facts to refute someone's "facts," state them without personal attacks. You only demean yourself when you personally attack others.

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Feb 9, 2015 23:00:37   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Gee... now we are at a cross road.... Give up!


:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Feb 9, 2015 23:02:50   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
no propaganda please wrote:
We can prey to God that Rumi takes your advice to heart. His pain is eating away at his soul and happiness, and he is much too good a person, under that facade to let that happen.


Pray to God for your own sins.

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Feb 9, 2015 23:08:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Hello Billy or should I say Mark Twain? Unless you have read every post made by this individual to me.... I would say that you are unaware of the facts. That is okay, I forgive you for judging an exchange between Rumitoid and I and judging me as wrong.

I also understand, Liberals have to stick together and defend each other. Liberals have some ideas of how they want others to think and believe. I have listed a few... by your comments to me, you fit more than a few.

1) Being Open Minded: To a liberal, this has nothing at all to do with seriously considering other people's ideas. To the contrary, liberals define being "open-minded" as agreeing with them. What could be more close-minded than assuming that not only are you right, but that you don't even need to consider another viewpoint because anyone who disagrees must be evil?

2) R****m: Liberals start with the presumption that only white people who don't belong to the Democratic Party can be r****t. So, for example, even if Jeremiah Wright can make it clear that he h**es white people because of their skin color or if liberals take an explicitly r****t political position, like suggesting that black people are too stupid and incompetent to get identification to v**e, they can't be r****t. White Republicans, on the other hand, are generally assumed to be r****t by default, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

3) Fairness: In all fairness, I must admit that fairness is an arbitrary concept. So, you could make the argument that no one could get "fairness" wrong. Still, liberals do because they don't make any effort to actually "be fair." As a practical matter, liberals define "fairness" as taking as much as possible from people who they don't think are going to v**e for them and giving it to people who may v**e for them in return for their ill gotten largesse. Certainly conservatives, libertarians, and moderates might disagree about how much money to take from the wealthy to redistribute to the poor or how to help the disadvantaged, but the only liberal answer to the question, "How much is enough?" is "more."

4) Greed: To a liberal, believing that you pay too much in taxes or even opposing paying more in taxes is greedy. In actuality, wanting to l**t as much money as possible that someone else has earned to use for your own purposes, which is what liberals do, is a much better example of greed.

5) H**e: Liberals often define simple disagreement with them on issues like gay marriage, tax rates, or a******n as hatred. No matter how well a position is explained, or the logical underpinnings behind it, it's chalked up to h**e. Meanwhile, the angriest, most vicious, most h**eful people in all of politics are liberals railing against what they say is "hatred." This irony is completely lost on the Left.

6) Investment: Actual investments involve putting money or resources into a project in hopes that they will appreciate in value. Liberals skip the second half of that equation. To them, an "investment" is taking someone else's tax dollars and putting it into a project that liberals approve of and whether a profit is made or lost is so irrelevant that they typically don't even bother to measure the results.

7) Charity: Contributing your own money or time to a good cause is charity. Liberals view themselves as charitable if they take someone else's tax dollars and give it away to people they hope will v**e for them in return. At a minimum, they should at least credit the taxpayers who paid for the money they gave away for the charity, although it's not really charity if it's involuntary. Of course, there's nothing charitable about asking someone else to sacrifice for your gain, which could actually be better described as selfish.

8) Patriotism: Liberals love America the way a wife beater loves his spouse. That's why they're always beating up the country "for its own good." Doesn't the country understand that liberals have to hit it in the mouth because they LOVE IT SO MUCH?!?!? Of course, the conventional definition of patriotism, which is loving your country and wishing it well, isn't one that liberals can wrap their heads around.

9) Tolerance: In a free, open, and pluralistic society, there are all sorts of behaviors that we may have to tolerate, even though we don't approve of those activities. Liberals don't get this distinction. For one thing, they don't understand the difference between tolerance and acceptance. They also don't extend any of the tolerance they're agitating for to people who disagree with them. Liberals silence people who disagree with them at every opportunity which is, dare we say it, an extremely intolerant way to behave.

10) Diversity: What liberals mean by "diversity" is that they want a broad range of people from different races, colors, and creeds who have identical political views. A black or Hispanic conservative doesn't contribute to "diversity" in liberal eyes because he actually has diverse views. Incredible role models for women like Sarah Palin can't be feminists to liberals because she doesn't share the same liberal beliefs as sexist pigs like Anthony Weiner and Bill Maher. How can you have any meaningful "diversity" when everyone has to think the same way?






Billie S wrote:
For one saying this one is supposed to be about religion you certainly do not show any of the religious traits. And of course all the other trolls chime in and agree with you. Shame on you all.

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Feb 9, 2015 23:23:32   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Hello Billy or should I say Mark Twain? Unless you have read every post made by this individual to me.... I would say that you are unaware of the facts. That is okay, I forgive you for judging an exchange between Rumitoid and I and judging me as wrong.

I also understand, Liberals have to stick together and defend each other. Liberals have some ideas of how they want others to think and believe. I have listed a few... by your comments to me, you fit more than a few.

1) Being Open Minded: To a liberal, this has nothing at all to do with seriously considering other people's ideas. To the contrary, liberals define being "open-minded" as agreeing with them. What could be more close-minded than assuming that not only are you right, but that you don't even need to consider another viewpoint because anyone who disagrees must be evil?

2) R****m: Liberals start with the presumption that only white people who don't belong to the Democratic Party can be r****t. So, for example, even if Jeremiah Wright can make it clear that he h**es white people because of their skin color or if liberals take an explicitly r****t political position, like suggesting that black people are too stupid and incompetent to get identification to v**e, they can't be r****t. White Republicans, on the other hand, are generally assumed to be r****t by default, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

3) Fairness: In all fairness, I must admit that fairness is an arbitrary concept. So, you could make the argument that no one could get "fairness" wrong. Still, liberals do because they don't make any effort to actually "be fair." As a practical matter, liberals define "fairness" as taking as much as possible from people who they don't think are going to v**e for them and giving it to people who may v**e for them in return for their ill gotten largesse. Certainly conservatives, libertarians, and moderates might disagree about how much money to take from the wealthy to redistribute to the poor or how to help the disadvantaged, but the only liberal answer to the question, "How much is enough?" is "more."

4) Greed: To a liberal, believing that you pay too much in taxes or even opposing paying more in taxes is greedy. In actuality, wanting to l**t as much money as possible that someone else has earned to use for your own purposes, which is what liberals do, is a much better example of greed.

5) H**e: Liberals often define simple disagreement with them on issues like gay marriage, tax rates, or a******n as hatred. No matter how well a position is explained, or the logical underpinnings behind it, it's chalked up to h**e. Meanwhile, the angriest, most vicious, most h**eful people in all of politics are liberals railing against what they say is "hatred." This irony is completely lost on the Left.

6) Investment: Actual investments involve putting money or resources into a project in hopes that they will appreciate in value. Liberals skip the second half of that equation. To them, an "investment" is taking someone else's tax dollars and putting it into a project that liberals approve of and whether a profit is made or lost is so irrelevant that they typically don't even bother to measure the results.

7) Charity: Contributing your own money or time to a good cause is charity. Liberals view themselves as charitable if they take someone else's tax dollars and give it away to people they hope will v**e for them in return. At a minimum, they should at least credit the taxpayers who paid for the money they gave away for the charity, although it's not really charity if it's involuntary. Of course, there's nothing charitable about asking someone else to sacrifice for your gain, which could actually be better described as selfish.

8) Patriotism: Liberals love America the way a wife beater loves his spouse. That's why they're always beating up the country "for its own good." Doesn't the country understand that liberals have to hit it in the mouth because they LOVE IT SO MUCH?!?!? Of course, the conventional definition of patriotism, which is loving your country and wishing it well, isn't one that liberals can wrap their heads around.

9) Tolerance: In a free, open, and pluralistic society, there are all sorts of behaviors that we may have to tolerate, even though we don't approve of those activities. Liberals don't get this distinction. For one thing, they don't understand the difference between tolerance and acceptance. They also don't extend any of the tolerance they're agitating for to people who disagree with them. Liberals silence people who disagree with them at every opportunity which is, dare we say it, an extremely intolerant way to behave.

10) Diversity: What liberals mean by "diversity" is that they want a broad range of people from different races, colors, and creeds who have identical political views. A black or Hispanic conservative doesn't contribute to "diversity" in liberal eyes because he actually has diverse views. Incredible role models for women like Sarah Palin can't be feminists to liberals because she doesn't share the same liberal beliefs as sexist pigs like Anthony Weiner and Bill Maher. How can you have any meaningful "diversity" when everyone has to think the same way?
Hello Billy or should I say Mark Twain? Unless y... (show quote)


I really don't like labels but all of your rants sound more like the right wing of the Republican Party or your own projections.

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Feb 9, 2015 23:40:53   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Oh yes.... I am a conservative. The world runs on labels and there is no way to escape it....whether you come out, as I do and skip being politically correct, or hint at or insult by implication....labels exist. In fact, you started our dialogue labeling me. So, the question is.... are you less than candid? And quite honestly....I could really care less what you think of my "rants." But, do continue to post. Perhaps in one of your replies you will drop being critical of me based on your perception of one thread and speak to me as a person and not a conservative that another Liberal, Rumitoid, simply h**es. You may be shocked, many Liberals on this site and I have open and honest discussions void of abuse.

Billie S wrote:
I really don't like labels but all of your rants sound more like the right wing of the Republican Party or your own projections.

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