Proud American Patriot

Gatsby

People who would trust a person with their child, but not trust that same person with a gun, are NUTS!

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

***If guns in schools are the problem, then why are lawmakers passing bills to put more guns in schools?
>>>Because guns in schools aren't the problem. Bad people with guns that aren't authorized in schools are the problem. Armed and trained teachers are "part of the solution."

Proud American Patriot

Yes, and if ever an active shooter that teacher will defend those children but this time will have the ability to also save their own lives unlike the unarmed teacher who saved the children but was k**led. Maybe they want the kids to wait 10 x 15 min or more for the police thereby allowing more lives to be lost. And they make it a racial thing. Dumb as a stone.

Proud American Patriot

Exactly!

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Evil shooters that threaten students in school or churchgoers, or shoppers in a mall or diners in a restaurant or moviegoers, or just anywhere must be stopped with extreme prejudice. Citizens must get concealed carry permits allowing them to be armed almost anywhere and able to thwart these evil shooters, hopefully before they release a single round. An armed public would seriously dampen a shooter's enthusiasm for his dastardly act if he is almost certain to be faced with death as he draws his weapon.

This return to the "Old West" of armed citizens is a rational reaction to the evil ones and their record of k*****gs over the years. Let us simply wipe them out whenever they appear. It would be just k*****gs as the Bible states. Its occurrence should diminish rapidly as the word gets around.

Yes, this would give those who want suicide another avenue to use, similar to their current use of suicide by police. They will find a way, regardless, so let it happen.
May God bless their soul!

Proud American Patriot

100% unfortunately even in good states they have weapon bans by statute and by request by sign. The government rarely makes sense.

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

True. We are not prepared for such a solution. Those who do shoot an evil one could be in grave legal problems today, either from the government or from civil lawsuits.

Where did Marshal Dillon go to? We need him now!

Kevyn

Until a deranged or i***t student gets ahold of the teachers gun by swiping a purse or going through a desk. Teachers are not police or military and should never be expected to play that role.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Several weeks ago, I posted the procedures several of the private Jewish schools have instituted. The following were designed by an IDF soldier who was on leave and stateside when October 7 happened.

Teachers who volunteered to carry weapons were put through three courses; gun safety, defensive and tactical training.

Classroom door locks were changed to deadbolt locks.

Teacher’s file cabinets were relocated to directly next to the classroom door and made light enough the teacher could move the cabinet in front of the door.

Every classroom is now supplied with a window fire ladder.

Hopefully, I get this in the correct order.

If a shooter enters the school, teacher’s first word is drop. At that point students have been trained to drop and turn their desk up in front of them.

While they do that, the teacher locks the door, moves the file cabinet in front of the door and retrieves her weapon from the file cabinet.

Two-three students have been trained to retrieve the fire ladder, open the window, place the fire ladder for students to depart the school.

The number one priority is to have students vacate the school! They are NOT to wait for police!

The teacher remains guarding the door, yet is verbally encouraging students in vacating the classroom.

An area outside each school has been designated for students to gather. Teachers are the last out.

As a fun note, one of the school secretaries is a competitive shooter.

As the county is not gun friendly, parents in these schools have not discussed their new protocols nor made any authorities aware of them.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Your presumption is the teacher would be too stupid to not secure the weapon out of access for a student. As you are an unmitigated moron, hopefully you do not own a gun.

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

I do not have the opinion of the teachers that others have shown. With the training Aunti wrote about, and some hours at a range making lots of holes in paper targets, and with supervision in how to shoot well, even the mousiest of teachers can become a competent shooter. But, of course it isn't necessary that each and every teacher in the school be armed, so there would be room to let the mousiest have a pass on being armed. In any event, the first line of defense for a school should be one or more policemen, and the armed teachers their backups. The armed teachers must carry their weapon on their person at all times, in my opinion, and not rely upon some locked cabinet to store it. The weapon must be available within seconds, and it must have a round in the chamber and be on manual safety. I would suggest the 9 mm automatic with over ten rounds in the clip, some reach 15 or 16 rounds. Training against the shock effect of an encounter is important also; freezing at the critical moment is quite possible without the right mindset trained in advance.

Kevyn

Not at all, I am suggesting that any school employee should receive as much training in the use of deadly weapons and de escalation as a police officer or soldier before being given the burden of carrying a firearm.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

What on earth in your empty head would make you believe that there would be a requirement for training, an evaluation of each person volunteering. You act like they are going to allow just any one carry. No rational person, which excludes you, would think that.

manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.

Well, I would suggest that a neophyte could be brought up to snuff by competent instructors well within five sessions on the range and a 50-round box of ammo for each time. So, to be sure, extend it to ten sessions over several weeks, and bring them back, say, every three months for freshening up. We are not looking to make them competitive shooters with five bullseyes in a row kind of accuracy. When they can shoot a rapid-fire group their hand can cover on a critical body area, nominally center mass, at a 50-foot range, that should be sufficient.