One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register ☰
Main
A Bit of History
Page 1 of 2 next>
Apr 28, 2024 14:10:20   #
AuH20
 
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 15:05:08   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
AuH20 wrote:
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.
b The following was a very brief history written ... (show quote)


Thank you for the history lesson!! Of course most ignorant jerks on here won't pay attention and will be winning about poor palestinians bs!!

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 15:14:07   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
AuH20 wrote:
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.
b The following was a very brief history written ... (show quote)


What no map?

An excellent job.

As PR stated, it will not matter to the pro terrorist maniacs.

Reply
 
 
Apr 28, 2024 15:33:22   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
AuH20 wrote:
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.
b The following was a very brief history written ... (show quote)


The first evidence of "Jewish" presence in the area is a bit earlier than 1550 BC. They are thought to have been basically a part of the Canaanite people, who were in the area a little before 2000 BC. There is evidence of such presence even earlier in Jericho, which may be the oldest city on Earth.
I find that intriguing, since Jericho dates back earlier than 9000 BC, and according to 16th century astronomer Johannes Kepler, the world was not created until 4977 BC. In April, I believe he said.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 23:36:19   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
AuH20 wrote:
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.
b The following was a very brief history written ... (show quote)


I think we took the same classes in Mid East History. The information provided is totally true and official.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 23:50:00   #
AuH20
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I think we took the same classes in Mid East History. The information provided is totally true and official.


He is a retired Special Operations officer who ended up spending much time in the Middle East because of his multiple courses in Middle East history.

He is an embarrassment due to his failure to keep up with ACC sports. Worse, his son is an SEC school graduate. It is unseemly.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 07:03:40   #
Big dog
 
AuH20 wrote:
The following was a very brief history written by a Duke University history major with a minor in Middle Eastern history.

A Bit of History

There was no Palestinian state until 1988. From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip.

Let’s take a step back and look at the history of that region for a minute. The first evidence of a Jewish presence in the Levant starts showing up in the late Bronze age, 1550-1150 BCE. By the early Iron Age, there was ample evidence of two major Jewish/Israeli kingdoms, Israel and Judea.
Israel and Judea Late 9th century BCE.

The boundaries changed fairly frequently over the next thousand years due to external wars and successional ones. What didn’t change was the fact that there were Jews living there the entire time. During the reign of Herod the Great, 72-4BCE, the Jewish kingdom was a client state of the Roman Empire. the boundaries of Israel, or more properly Judea and Samaria, looked pretty similar to what they do today.

I should note here that during the Roman occupation the areas to the south of Judea were called Philistine, after the tribes that lived there. After the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the entire region was renamed Palaestina – which was intended as an insult to the Jews, the Philistines were notoriously uncultured – and became a Roman province. This becomes important later.

The Islamic conquest of the Levant started in 634, more than 2000 years after the first Jews appeared there. The conquest was swift and Sharia, or at least the version of Sharia that was practiced then, was imposed. From that point up until the end of WWI, the lands of Israel were controlled by the various Muslim caliph**es.

Fast forward a thousand or so years to the Ottoman Empire period. The Turks controlled the Levant and thus the lands that would become modern Israel. During the time the Ottomans controlled the lands, they were known as the Mustaffarate of Jerusalem. I probably should let you know that during the entire Muslim period, Jews were treated as Dwimmi and paid Jizaya, that is the tax on non-muslims and were subject to periodic pogroms. Yet they were still there.

At the end of WWI, the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey proper were divided between the French and British.

It was at this point that Palestine came into common use with British Mandatory Palestine.

Prior to 1922 and the establishment of the Mandate, you could not find the word Palestine used on any map or in any textbook. The Brits, being the insufferable toerags they were back then, insisted on a call-back to the Roman era insult, and chose a ‘modernized’ version of Palaestina.

Regardless, the Brits had promised a Jewish homeland in the Mandate, and many European Jews emigrated at this time.

First up is a complete lack of knowledge about the history of the Levant and the Jewish presence there. I keep hearing the Israelis being called ‘colonizers’ yet their presence in the region predates almost every ethnic group or religion. If anyone could be accused of being colonizers it’s the Muslims. They took over the land with fire and sword more than a thousand years after the Jews had settled there.

It would appear it is the nonexistent people who are colonizers, not the Jews as so often, of late, they have been accused. Further, when the Jews were evicted from Gaza to make way for the colonizers, they left greenhouses and other infrastructure that could sustain life in Gaza. The nonexistent people tore down and destroyed all of that infrastructure thus becoming paupers and requiring humanitarian aid.
b The following was a very brief history written ... (show quote)


👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Reply
 
 
Apr 29, 2024 13:01:02   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
proud republican wrote:
Thank you for the history lesson!! Of course most ignorant jerks on here won't pay attention and will be winning about poor palestinians bs!!


Very interesting post PR. Aggie has told me what he knows on the subject of the Palestinian issue and the history of the region. Until the people in Gaza free themselves from the repressive and revolting control of HAMAS and their Iranian masters I stand behind our only true ally in the ME Israel. I personally believe the best solution is a 2 state solution with the independence of both Israel and the people of Gaza recognized and peaceful co-existence. I know though that while the HAMAS terrorists control the govt of the disputed lands that is not going to happen. I pray daily that the non HAMAS supporters find a way to get rid of the present gov't and become a free land.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 13:36:55   #
pegw
 
The recent history of Gaza isn't told. When Israel occupied Gaza they were pretty neglectful. So was the PLO. When the people of Gaza elected a Hamas government, they got a functioning government, lik,e the garbage was collected hospitals worked etc. I think the surprise attack on Israel meant that Hamas burnt their own bridges.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 13:43:01   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
pegw wrote:
The recent history of Gaza isn't told. When Israel occupied Gaza they were pretty neglectful. So was the PLO. When the people of Gaza elected a Hamas government, they got a functioning government, lik,e the garbage was collected hospitals worked etc. I think the surprise attack on Israel meant that Hamas burnt their own bridges.


So you support Hamas?? I'm not surprised since you're ignorant to history.......Hamas ATTACKED peaceful Israeli citizens... This war is because of your friends Hamas!!

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 13:46:54   #
Lily
 
pegw wrote:
The recent history of Gaza isn't told. When Israel occupied Gaza they were pretty neglectful. So was the PLO. When the people of Gaza elected a Hamas government, they got a functioning government, lik,e the garbage was collected hospitals worked etc. I think the surprise attack on Israel meant that Hamas burnt their own bridges.


Absolute unequivocal horse manure.

Reply
 
 
Apr 29, 2024 13:47:14   #
Lily
 
proud republican wrote:
So you support Hamas?? I'm not surprised since you're ignorant to history.......Hamas ATTACKED peaceful Israeli citizens... This war is because if your friends Hamas!!


She’s an i***t.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 14:32:00   #
AuH20
 
pegw wrote:
The recent history of Gaza isn't told. When Israel occupied Gaza they were pretty neglectful. So was the PLO. When the people of Gaza elected a Hamas government, they got a functioning government, lik,e the garbage was collected hospitals worked etc. I think the surprise attack on Israel meant that Hamas burnt their own bridges.


Actually, you are totally incorrect. When Israel turned Gaza over in 2005, to the Philistines(There are no Palestinians), there was an entire infrastructure of food producing greenhouses, schools, etc. The Philistines, in their hatred of all things Jewish, destroyed everything.

Since the take over of Gaza, Israel has continued to provide electricity and water into Gaza. If they wanted to rid us of these unclean heathen, they could have simply shutdown those things.

If their government was so functional, please explain to us why the UN was having to constantly provide humanitarian aid?

Frankly, I find you ignorant of facts and spouting talking points that have been disproven repeatedly.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 14:33:07   #
AuH20
 
Lily wrote:
She’s an i***t.


That may well be; however, it is so comforting to present provable facts to those who lack knowledge.

Reply
Apr 29, 2024 14:57:25   #
Lily
 
proud republican wrote:
So you support Hamas?? I'm not surprised since you're ignorant to history.......Hamas ATTACKED peaceful Israeli citizens... This war is because of your friends Hamas!!


No surprise there. MSDNC tells her what to think.

Reply
Page 1 of 2 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
Home | Latest Digest | Back to Top | All Sections
Contact us | Privacy policy | Terms of use | DMCA
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.