The evolution of liberalism: Most of this is off the web but I am including some of my thoughts too at the end. Classical liberalism is a political ideology that emerged in the 17th...

Steven smith

Most of this is off the web but I am including some of my thoughts too at the end.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that emerged in the 17th and 18th centuries, rooted in the work of philosophers like John Locke and Adam Smith. It emphasizes individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, and the belief in free market economics. The core idea is that individuals should be free to pursue their own interests as long as they do not harm others, with the state's role primarily to protect those freedoms and maintain order through a legal framework.

Over the past 100 years, liberalism has experienced significant t***sformations, adapting to changing social, economic, and political contexts across the globe. This period saw the emergence of social liberalism, which modifies classical liberalism's strict laissez-faire stance, advocating for a more active role of the state in addressing social injustices and providing a safety net for the less fortunate. This shift has been partly in response to the challenges of industrialization, the Great Depression, world wars, and the evolving needs of modern societies.

The 20th century further complicated the political landscape with the advent of neoliberalism in the late 20th century, which, despite its name, diverges from classical liberalism's foundational principles in several ways. Neoliberalism calls for deregulation, privatization, and a reduction in government spending, emphasizing the efficiency of the free market while often sidelining concerns about social equity and environmental sustainability.

Moreover, liberalism today is confronted with new challenges such as globalization, technological changes, and a resurgence of nationalist and populist movements. These developments have sparked debates within liberal thought about issues ranging from global governance and c*****e c****e to the role of technology in democracy and privacy.

While classical liberalism laid the groundwork with its emphasis on individual liberty and minimal state intervention, the past 100 years have seen liberalism evolve to incorporate a broader concern for social welfare, e******y, and addressing complex global issues, reflecting the dynamic nature of political ideologies in responding to the changing realities of the world.

Here are my thoughts.
Today’s liberals tend to embrace a very secular approach to politics and social issues. They completely ignore spiritual beliefs and if they do address spiritual issues they make sure to demean or relegate them to a corner. Today’s liberals are subject to embrace the most absurd ideologues like t*********r rights. Any discussion seems to end up with them asking a lot of questions framed in accusations.
They are like spoiled children having to get their way.
Today’s liberals in general have drifted so far to the left that actual conversations are almost impossible.

guzzimaestro

Steven smith wrote:

Most of this is off the web but I am including some of my thoughts too at the end.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that emerged in the 17th and 18th centuries, rooted in the work of philosophers like John Locke and Adam Smith. It emphasizes individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, and the belief in free market economics. The core idea is that individuals should be free to pursue their own interests as long as they do not harm others, with the state's role primarily to protect those freedoms and maintain order through a legal framework.

Over the past 100 years, liberalism has experienced significant t***sformations, adapting to changing social, economic, and political contexts across the globe. This period saw the emergence of social liberalism, which modifies classical liberalism's strict laissez-faire stance, advocating for a more active role of the state in addressing social injustices and providing a safety net for the less fortunate. This shift has been partly in response to the challenges of industrialization, the Great Depression, world wars, and the evolving needs of modern societies.

The 20th century further complicated the political landscape with the advent of neoliberalism in the late 20th century, which, despite its name, diverges from classical liberalism's foundational principles in several ways. Neoliberalism calls for deregulation, privatization, and a reduction in government spending, emphasizing the efficiency of the free market while often sidelining concerns about social equity and environmental sustainability.

Moreover, liberalism today is confronted with new challenges such as globalization, technological changes, and a resurgence of nationalist and populist movements. These developments have sparked debates within liberal thought about issues ranging from global governance and c*****e c****e to the role of technology in democracy and privacy.

While classical liberalism laid the groundwork with its emphasis on individual liberty and minimal state intervention, the past 100 years have seen liberalism evolve to incorporate a broader concern for social welfare, e******y, and addressing complex global issues, reflecting the dynamic nature of political ideologies in responding to the changing realities of the world.

Here are my thoughts.
Today’s liberals tend to embrace a very secular approach to politics and social issues. They completely ignore spiritual beliefs and if they do address spiritual issues they make sure to demean or relegate them to a corner. Today’s liberals are subject to embrace the most absurd ideologues like t*********r rights. Any discussion seems to end up with them asking a lot of questions framed in accusations.
They are like spoiled children having to get their way.
Today’s liberals in general have drifted so far to the left that actual conversations are almost impossible.

Most of this is off the web but I am including som... (show quote)

Too bad it wasn't systematically eliminated back then. We wouldn't be in the fix we're in today, haha.

Steven smith

guzzimaestro wrote:

Too bad it wasn't systematically eliminated back then. We wouldn't be in the fix we're in today, haha.

A liberal 100 years ago would be completely dismayed at what passes for liberalism today.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Steven smith wrote:

Most of this is off the web but I am including some of my thoughts too at the end.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that emerged in the 17th and 18th centuries, rooted in the work of philosophers like John Locke and Adam Smith. It emphasizes individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, and the belief in free market economics. The core idea is that individuals should be free to pursue their own interests as long as they do not harm others, with the state's role primarily to protect those freedoms and maintain order through a legal framework.

Over the past 100 years, liberalism has experienced significant t***sformations, adapting to changing social, economic, and political contexts across the globe. This period saw the emergence of social liberalism, which modifies classical liberalism's strict laissez-faire stance, advocating for a more active role of the state in addressing social injustices and providing a safety net for the less fortunate. This shift has been partly in response to the challenges of industrialization, the Great Depression, world wars, and the evolving needs of modern societies.

The 20th century further complicated the political landscape with the advent of neoliberalism in the late 20th century, which, despite its name, diverges from classical liberalism's foundational principles in several ways. Neoliberalism calls for deregulation, privatization, and a reduction in government spending, emphasizing the efficiency of the free market while often sidelining concerns about social equity and environmental sustainability.

Moreover, liberalism today is confronted with new challenges such as globalization, technological changes, and a resurgence of nationalist and populist movements. These developments have sparked debates within liberal thought about issues ranging from global governance and c*****e c****e to the role of technology in democracy and privacy.

While classical liberalism laid the groundwork with its emphasis on individual liberty and minimal state intervention, the past 100 years have seen liberalism evolve to incorporate a broader concern for social welfare, e******y, and addressing complex global issues, reflecting the dynamic nature of political ideologies in responding to the changing realities of the world.

Here are my thoughts.
Today’s liberals tend to embrace a very secular approach to politics and social issues. They completely ignore spiritual beliefs and if they do address spiritual issues they make sure to demean or relegate them to a corner. Today’s liberals are subject to embrace the most absurd ideologues like t*********r rights. Any discussion seems to end up with them asking a lot of questions framed in accusations.
They are like spoiled children having to get their way.
Today’s liberals in general have drifted so far to the left that actual conversations are almost impossible.

Most of this is off the web but I am including som... (show quote)

Of course the ideology has changed. It was first being developed for the new class of factory owners that demanded the same rights as the aristocracy. The aristocracy had its own ideology, conservativism. Conservatives have always held that " this is the best of all possible worlds. Change is never necessary, if it should come, it should be over a lot of time, very slowly.
The new ideology of the working class in Europe was socialism. Socialism never really developed in the US because of labor unions and the labor movement.
The Chinese were right, the only thing certain in the world is CHANGE.

currahee506

The "liberal" is all the time thinking about what a "good person" he/she is, even to the point of being too good to work and too much better than the people who do. So what must I do to get out of any work that I have to do I will "gas-light with "Intellectualism" to show how smart and good I am for these people to say, "Wow, this person is really "good" Let's do his/her work for him/her and show how good we are and he/she can give us "little people" their approval. Any questions?

LiberalGrammyD

Steven smith wrote:

Most of this is off the web but I am including some of my thoughts too at the end.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that emerged in the 17th and 18th centuries, rooted in the work of philosophers like John Locke and Adam Smith. It emphasizes individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, and the belief in free market economics. The core idea is that individuals should be free to pursue their own interests as long as they do not harm others, with the state's role primarily to protect those freedoms and maintain order through a legal framework.

Over the past 100 years, liberalism has experienced significant t***sformations, adapting to changing social, economic, and political contexts across the globe. This period saw the emergence of social liberalism, which modifies classical liberalism's strict laissez-faire stance, advocating for a more active role of the state in addressing social injustices and providing a safety net for the less fortunate. This shift has been partly in response to the challenges of industrialization, the Great Depression, world wars, and the evolving needs of modern societies.

The 20th century further complicated the political landscape with the advent of neoliberalism in the late 20th century, which, despite its name, diverges from classical liberalism's foundational principles in several ways. Neoliberalism calls for deregulation, privatization, and a reduction in government spending, emphasizing the efficiency of the free market while often sidelining concerns about social equity and environmental sustainability.

Moreover, liberalism today is confronted with new challenges such as globalization, technological changes, and a resurgence of nationalist and populist movements. These developments have sparked debates within liberal thought about issues ranging from global governance and c*****e c****e to the role of technology in democracy and privacy.

While classical liberalism laid the groundwork with its emphasis on individual liberty and minimal state intervention, the past 100 years have seen liberalism evolve to incorporate a broader concern for social welfare, e******y, and addressing complex global issues, reflecting the dynamic nature of political ideologies in responding to the changing realities of the world.

Here are my thoughts.
Today’s liberals tend to embrace a very secular approach to politics and social issues. They completely ignore spiritual beliefs and if they do address spiritual issues they make sure to demean or relegate them to a corner. Today’s liberals are subject to embrace the most absurd ideologues like t*********r rights. Any discussion seems to end up with them asking a lot of questions framed in accusations.
They are like spoiled children having to get their way.
Today’s liberals in general have drifted so far to the left that actual conversations are almost impossible.

Most of this is off the web but I am including som... (show quote)

Steven there is still a small group of liberals who agree with myself that the left side of our party are exactly like you say and many are indeed young. They are convinced that the current Democratic party is doing the right thing. They aren't I am extremely frustrated with the extreme young liberals. They need to go back and see what JFK and other liberals actually believe in. Or they can ask me.

Steven smith

LiberalGrammyD wrote:

Steven there is still a small group of liberals who agree with myself that the left side of our party are exactly like you say and many are indeed young. They are convinced that the current Democratic party is doing the right thing. They aren't I am extremely frustrated with the extreme young liberals. They need to go back and see what JFK and other liberals actually believe in. Or they can ask me.

samtheyank

What happens to them when they run out of other people’s money? When you have a class of people who don’t want to work and pretty much get everything free. The whole system goes to hell. I think I will see that day before I die. SAD!

LiberalGrammyD

currahee506 wrote:

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That Sir is where you are wrong. Not all liberals are intellectual snobs. Not all of us are college educated. I have an AA and a 30yrs hard work in the medical field without a higher degree. I retired last year as a Hospice LPN. I have NEVER v**ed for the GOP and until they change from kissing the bosses asses and ignoring the workers I won't. You refer to todays left leaning liberal (mostly young v**ers)I am Not one of those. My husband (LostAggie66) is not one either. (yes he has an MA) He taught secondary public school for 25yrs and is not a L*****t and didn't retire rich either. He is intelligent, caring, loyal American, a patriotic veteran who was a Republican supporter until 1992.

LiberalGrammyD

LiberalGrammyD wrote:

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saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

LiberalGrammyD wrote:

Steven there is still a small group of liberals who agree with myself that the left side of our party are exactly like you say and many are indeed young. They are convinced that the current Democratic party is doing the right thing. They aren't I am extremely frustrated with the extreme young liberals. They need to go back and see what JFK and other liberals actually believe in. Or they can ask me.

Grammy, I have always been a FDR-JFK Democrat. The basic message in this country is, and has been for a long time, let's give the ordinary working stiff a break. Tactics, and have changed, our definition of a working man has changed, but the message is still the same. During Nam, I was a navy vet. I turned against the war after I was discharged, and met some extraordinary professors in college. I remember very clearly that the young people against the war were not liberals. The fact is they h**ed liberals for what they regarded as betrayal to what was right. Humphrey backed LBJ in the escalation for the war in Nam.
Young people have no patience for change. They see things in terms of black and white, with no grays. I bet that many of the far left college students I knew had become Republicans by the time they were in their thirties.

LiberalGrammyD

saltwind 78 wrote:

Grammy, I have always been a FDR-JFK Democrat. The... (show quote)

Hey Salt nice to find a fellow FDR/JFK Democrat here. Aggie(Hubby)has mentioned that exact idea before wondering how many Hippies in the 70's became Yuppies in the 80s/90s Reganites then TEAPartyijits and now "Clueless MAGApublicans". Yes the young now in College and first time v**ers are very impatient. But they will be making their voices heard at the b****t box in November I strongly believe. Aggie has been very active in signing up first time v**ers all over the area here. I have decided to join him on Wednesday when we go out for another sign in. I also agree with Hubby that I bet there are a few of those Hippie/yuppieMAGAs here.