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Apr 23, 2024 15:21:04   #
Lily
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
The official count is, of course, 50. What's the trick?


There are 46 states. There are four Commonwealths. Their constitutions name them a Commonwealth, all official documents are headed Commonwealth.

As you offer yourself as all knowing, who are the four?

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Apr 23, 2024 15:24:29   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
AuntiE's question. A hint - it's a "Who's buried in Grants Tomb" sort of question.


At least, you realized it was tricky and asked for the answer. Nick is to dumb to realize it has a trick answer.

Aunti told me about deployed person. He’s been added to the prayer circle my elder has a big part in.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:40:24   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect e******y in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the l*****ts on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all l*****ts on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to ens***e them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could v**e before that date. Many minorities were denied the v**e until the V****g Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the v**e and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, a******n, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)


And that is why the dems tore down statues, tried to erase and distort history...

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Apr 23, 2024 15:52:40   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Mogon wrote:
The only reason they would drop the Biden impeachment is very simple.
There are too many RINO’s on the Republican side and there are zero Democrats with common sense or a conscience!!
Has nothing to do with evidence, there is plenty of evidence to convict him.


That is not the story being told. What is being told, one by one, their so-called evidence was found to have no valid proof. That is what I read after asking a republican about it all. I have not heard anything different. That and the Russian attempts to aid the impeachment with false stories. That effort failed utterly when the miscreant confessed to the lies.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:53:40   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Lily wrote:
At least, you realized it was tricky and asked for the answer. Nick is to dumb to realize it has a trick answer.

Aunti told me about deployed person. He’s been added to the prayer circle my elder has a big part in.


Thank you Lily!

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Apr 23, 2024 15:55:46   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Lily wrote:
At least, you realized it was tricky and asked for the answer. Nick is to dumb to realize it has a trick answer.

Aunti told me about deployed person. He’s been added to the prayer circle my elder has a big part in.


Gee, that's funny. I thought I used that very word.... Tricky. Even read it. I had no clue, so did not attempt to figure it out. Your prejudice is showing.

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Apr 23, 2024 15:57:01   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Proud American Patriot wrote:
And that is why the dems tore down statues, tried to erase and distort history...


The statues were put up many many years AFTER the fact, to instill fear in the black people in the south. To remind them the people of the South once fought a war to keep them in chains. Just because they lost that time didn't mean they'd lose again. The KKK didn't want any of them v****g or acting as if they were "just like us."

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Apr 23, 2024 15:58:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
That is not the story being told. What is being told, one by one, their so-called evidence was found to have no valid proof. That is what I read after asking a republican about it all. I have not heard anything different. That and the Russian attempts to aid the impeachment with false stories. That effort failed utterly when the miscreant confessed to the lies.


👍

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Apr 23, 2024 16:02:39   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Lily wrote:
At least, you realized it was tricky and asked for the answer. Nick is to dumb to realize it has a trick answer.

Aunti told me about deployed person. He’s been added to the prayer circle my elder has a big part in.


Let's see how "Nick" did not realize it was a tricky answer. Oh - Gee, here are his very words. "The official count is, of course, 50. What's the trick?" In English, I do believe that says Nick (me) understood the fact that it had a tricky answer. Proving that your claim is entirely false. Your prejudices showing again? Just because I despise trump? I also think Biden is bad news. But don't let me stop you from making false things up in your head. Your prejudices are showing.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:04:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Let's see how "Nick" did not realize it was a tricky answer. Oh - Gee, here are his very words. "The official count is, of course, 50. What's the trick?" In English, I do believe that says Nick (me) understood the fact that it had a tricky answer. Proving that your claim is entirely false. Your prejudices showing again? Just because I despise trump? I also think Biden is bad news. But don't let me stop you from making false things up in your head. Your prejudices are showing.
Let's see how "Nick" did not realize it ... (show quote)


I'm afraid he has you there, Lily. 🙃

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Apr 23, 2024 16:13:09   #
Lily
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Gee, that's funny. I thought I used that very word.... Tricky. Even read it. I had no clue, so did not attempt to figure it out. Your prejudice is showing.


Old rule presentation is everything. When you start arrogant, people will see that. You do that causing prejudice.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:14:15   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
I'm afraid he has you there, Lily. 🙃


I do not concede.

Us youngsters are like that!

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Apr 23, 2024 16:18:58   #
Mogon
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
That is not the story being told. What is being told, one by one, their so-called evidence was found to have no valid proof. That is what I read after asking a republican about it all. I have not heard anything different. That and the Russian attempts to aid the impeachment with false stories. That effort failed utterly when the miscreant confessed to the lies.


That’s the story being told by you!
You are probably repeating CNN.
Pull your head out of your butt and look for real news sources.

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Apr 23, 2024 16:29:51   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Lily wrote:
I do not concede.

Us youngsters are like that!


😂🤣

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Apr 23, 2024 16:40:16   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
😂🤣


It is my belief she achieves that stubbornness from living with elders for a decade. She either needs it to manage them or it is osmosis from stubborn elders.

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