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for the sake of the OPP Blade man let’s talk about the radical speed changes that would occur if we were actually living in a Heliocentric Model. We’re going to deal with the slowest two of five simultaneous motions being claimed. One is the rotation of Earth speed, and the other is the speed around The Sun. At night, the rotation of The Earth is going with the motion around The Sun. The forces are acting in concert at 1040 mph plus 67,000 mph, equaling 68,040 mph.


During the day, the rotation of The Earth is acting in opposition to the motion around The Sun:

1. 67,000 mph minus 1040 mph = 65,960 mph

2. 68,040 during the night

3. 65,960 during the day

That’s a speed change of 2,080 mph every single day.

What effect do you suppose such a radical change in speed would have on standing water?

That’s right, it would slosh violently out of place every single day.

Does it?

No it doesn’t.

Do you know why?

It’s actually very simple. The Heliocentric Model is false. It’s always been false. In actual reality, you live on a stationary plane. Oceans, Seas, and also Lakes are flat.

When we soberly consider the FOUR vectors of contrary motion that The Earth and Sun experience as they fly though an expanding Universe, according to the wildly magical and imaginative Heliocentric Theory, we immediately see the h**x of The Expanding Universe Model. No amount of ridiculous 1950s Bell Laboratory “Background Radiation” fables can hide the raw data:

1. First, the Earth is allegedly spinning at approximately 1000 mph.

2. Second, while the Earth spins, it is also allegedly moving 67,000 mph around the Sun

3. Third, while these two motions are occurring, the Sun is also allegedly, and in fact, our whole Solar System is allegedly orbiting around the center of The Milky Way Galaxy. We are supposedly moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km/hr.

4. Fourth, the entire Milky Way Galaxy is also allegedly going 670,000,000 mph on the membrane of an expanding Universe.

5. And yet, you feel zero motion???

With all that contrary motion, we should be seeing different Constellations or the change in shape and size of the current Constellations, all the time, every year. But they remain fixed and constant, year after year. It does not matter how many light years of distance you inject into the Heliocentric Model. All the crazy angles, distances, and stellar magnitudes in the world cannot cover up the fact that The Constellations are fixed and constant, moving as a connected canopy above us, and reoccurring as predictably as the seasons we see them in. And this fact could not be true if The Earth, Sun, and all The Stars were on a roller coaster ride of contrary motion out in Magical Mythical Outer Space.

Heliocentrism is a highly flawed occult fantasy, and nothing more. It was never proven, but rather only repeated endlessly until brainwashed the small children, who grew up to be religious Star Trek loving zealots for the Astro-Theological religion called Astrophysics. It makes no scientific sense, and it is in its last death throes, like a fish flapping on the rocks about to die of Helios Worship.

RIP Heliocentric Model.

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Steven smith

Hello Richard
I had a friend at a local college send me this.
The argument presented hinges on misunderstandings of physics, specifically how velocity, acceleration, and relative motion work, especially in the vastness of space. Here's an easy-to-understand counter-argument:

1.Constant Velocity and Lack of "Sloshing":** The argument incorrectly applies concepts of sudden acceleration or deceleration (like a car speeding up or braking) to the movement of Earth through space. In reality, the Earth's speed around the sun (67,000 mph) and its rotation on its axis (about 1040 mph at the equator) are nearly constant. Changes in velocity that might lead to the "sloshing" of oceans would come from acceleration, not constant velocity. Since the Earth's speed in its orbit and its rotational speed are constant, there is no sudden shift to cause such violent movements of water.

2.Relativity and Movement:** The argument misunderstands Einstein's theory of relativity, which explains that motion is relative. We don't feel the Earth moving through space at incredible speeds because we, and everything around us, including the atmosphere and oceans, are moving at the same constant velocity as the Earth. It's the same reason you don't feel motion in a smoothly flying airplane; everything is moving together unless there's turbulence (acceleration or deceleration).

3.Gravitational Forces and Orbital Dynamics:** The Earth's orbit around the sun and its rotation are governed by gravitational forces, mainly from the sun, which ensure stable, predictable paths. These paths don't change drastically over short periods, which is why we don't experience constant significant adjustments in velocity that would lead to noticeable effects like water sloshing.

4.Observational Constancy of Constellations:** The argument that constellations should appear to change drastically assumes a misunderstanding of the scale and distances involved in space. While it's true that stars move and constellations do slowly change over thousands to millions of years, these changes are too gradual for human lifetimes to notice significantly. The vast distances in space mean that even at high velocities, the relative positions of stars as seen from Earth change very slowly by human standards.

5.Scientific Consistency and Evidence:** The assertion that the heliocentric model and expanding universe are "fables" ignores the overwhelming body of consistent, observable evidence supporting these models, including precise measurements made with advanced technologies and consistent observations over centuries.

In summary, the essay's argument fails to account for basic principles of physics, especially relativity and how motion is experienced on a planetary scale. The stability of Earth's motion and the constancy of celestial patterns are well-explained within the framework of the heliocentric model and the laws of physics as we understand them, without contradicting the experiences and observations we make on Earth.

Last word….
Conspiracy theories are one thing that leads in the news today.
When it comes to conspiracy theories about man centered ideologies then there are a lot of them that have been proven true. I will give you that.
NOT about this.

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Good sport for fun.

Steven smith

I have no idea what you mean by that statement.

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Dah, as far as I can tell from talking to people on other parts of the earth (Hawaii vs. New York for example), about 1/2 of the earth is having daylight when the other 1/2 is having night, which is totally incompatible with your post. Also why are the hours of daylight north of the equator progressive greater as on goes north, while the hours of daylight south of the equator are progressive less as one goes south, and vice versa 6 months later.

SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics

Very good rebuttal, but it will probally go over someone's head.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Seems like the sun revolves around the earth like you said. Closer and Further away. I.e. unless you believe the earth is a high-speed spinning ball hurtling through space much faster with its oceans and lakes remaining flat from shore to shore.

SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics

Why is it in an airplane all the passengers (and crew for that matter) plus luggage, drink carts and anything else not bolted to the body of the plane are not all pied up at the back of the rapidly moving aircraft? And yes a high speed, spinning ball hurtling through space, carrying everything with it at the same velocity similar to a plane in flight, is exactly what centuries of scientific observations and measurements, as well as photos and videos taken from space and mathematical calculations and theory state it should be. Even from an airplane at 40,000 ft. one can begin to see the curvature of the earth regardless of which direction one is looking. You do claim to believe your own observations, correct?

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What is the ground speed of the plane when flying to the East or West coast if the ball earth is spinning 1,000+mph which is twice the speed of a commercial passenger plane.

Why is it that you're spinning and wobbling ball earth allows the oceans and lakes remain perfectly flat as it hurtles through space?

Steven smith

Richard , I posted a answer to your question, did you not read it?

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Just having fun following your lead.

Steven smith

You’re a odd sort but interesting.

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My observations and testing show all oceans lakes and the horizons are flat and straight ahead never looking down a curve to view the horizon.

Steven smith

Is it possible that your measurements are flawed or in some ways not accurate as you might think?

Steven smith

What fundamental forces are at work that supports you ideas about how the universe works?