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Apr 14, 2024 23:14:29   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Lily wrote:
Biblical and historic there are no such things as Palestinians. At best they are descendants of the Philistines who are Arabs.


There are historic maps relevant to your comment.



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Apr 14, 2024 23:20:19   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Lily wrote:
Biblical and historic there are no such things as Palestinians. At best they are descendants of the Philistines who are Arabs.

Tell the Palestinians that.
There were Arab people whose ancestors had lived in that region for centuries when the powers that be (UN and US and UK, primarily) decided to 'give it back' to the Jews after WWII. If you or I or any of us had been told, sorry, you need to share - or move from - the land of your ancestors so these people can take over part of it, the answer might rightfully have been

"Oh REALLY!? Well guess what. You can go pound salt because we aren't leaving! Try and make us!"

A little history of the region. I had not read about it in a long time, so thanks for giving me an excuse to look it up.

https://theconversation.com/the-history-of-israel-and-palestine-alternative-names-competing-claims-163156

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Apr 14, 2024 23:20:55   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
The most important thing to know about Epstein is his client list is the most secure document in the world.


😏😊

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Apr 14, 2024 23:21:10   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
There are historic maps relevant to your comment.


👍 Palastine was apparently a corruption of Philistine..

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Apr 14, 2024 23:22:47   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
😏😊


You know I am correct. It is not just individuals in the US that do not want it to see the light of day.

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Apr 14, 2024 23:23:44   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
You know I am correct. It is not just individuals in the US that do not want it to see the light of day.


True enough.

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Apr 14, 2024 23:45:21   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
Representatives for Palestinians have refused every offer. The fact is the ONLY THING that will placate them is the total destruction of Israel and the elimination of every Jew. The sooner two state dipsh*ts understand that, the sooner the better. Why do none of the foreign policy dweebs not notice not a single Middle East country wants these heathens in their countries? Egypt could not secure their border fast enough to keep them out. Not a single country has offered. They understand these people are undesirable as residents.
Representatives for Palestinians have refused ever... (show quote)


I don't know a lot about the history of peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine other than what's been in the news and by googling more recently..But I do know that when the State of Israel was created after WWII no one seems to have asked the Palestinians - or Arabs living in Palestine at the time - or however we refer to them... No one asked them what THEY thought about it. Which seems like a recipe for disaster from the get go.
An honest broker is what's called for here. But who would be a good choice? It has to be someone who won't play favorites or the Pastinians won't trust then at all.

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Apr 15, 2024 00:32:56   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
I don't know a lot about the history of peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine other than what's been in the news and by googling more recently..But I do know that when the State of Israel was created after WWII no one seems to have asked the Palestinians - or Arabs living in Palestine at the time - or however we refer to them... No one asked them what THEY thought about it. Which seems like a recipe for disaster from the get go.
An honest broker is what's called for here. But who would be a good choice? It has to be someone who won't play favorites or the Pastinians won't trust then at all.
I don't know a lot about the history of peace nego... (show quote)


One thing going against them is when the Jews were moved out of Gaza, most recently, they left a complete infrastructure of green houses, schools, shops, etc. They were all destroyed. Why? Because Jews had built them. Nothing was built to replace those things. They talk about their past hunger. Geez, you destroyed green houses that could have fed you.

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Apr 15, 2024 00:34:11   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
One thing going against them is when the Jews were moved out of Gaza, most recently, they left a complete infrastructure of green houses, schools, shops, etc. They were all destroyed. Why? Because Jews had built them. Nothing was built to replace those things. They talk about their past hunger. Geez, you destroyed green houses that could have fed you.


Not very bright.

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