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The differences matter. Classical vs far left
Apr 5, 2024 17:22:15   #
Bruce123
 
The exploration of political ideologies

**Historical Context and Philosophical Foundations**

Classical liberalism, emerging from Enlightenment thinking in the 17th and 18th centuries, champions individual liberty, limited government, and a free market economy. Influential thinkers such as John Locke and Adam Smith argued for the inherent rights of individuals to life, liberty, and property, advocating for a governmental framework that protects these rights while allowing economic systems to operate with minimal interference. The emphasis is on personal freedom, the rule of law, and e******y before the law, with a belief in the rationality of the individual as the basis for these liberties.

Far-left ideologies, which include socialism, c*******m, and anarchism, emerged from the 19th and early 20th centuries as responses to the inequalities perceived in capitalist societies. Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and later theorists criticized the exploitation inherent in capitalism, advocating for a classless society where resources and power are equitably distributed. Unlike classical liberalism's focus on individual rights and freedoms, far-left ideologies prioritize collective ownership, egalitarianism, and the dissolution of class distinctions, often envisioning a significant role for the state in achieving these aims.

**Economic Systems and Views on Property**

One of the most pronounced differences between classical liberalism and far-left ideologies is their approach to economic systems and property rights. Classical liberals advocate for a capitalist economy where private ownership and free markets are seen as the most efficient means to distribute resources and foster innovation. They argue that individuals should have the freedom to engage in t***sactions and accumulate property without excessive state interference.

In contrast, far-left ideologies critique the capitalist system for its propensity to create ine******y and concentrate wealth. Proposing various alternatives, from state-controlled economies to communal ownership, these ideologies seek to redistribute wealth and resources more equitably among the population. The belief here is that the needs of the community should supersede individual desires for profit, leading to proposals for collective or state ownership of the means of production.

**Governance and Individual Rights**

Another area of divergence lies in the conception of governance and individual rights. Classical liberalism places a premium on protecting individual freedoms against state encroachment, advocating for a limited government whose primary function is to safeguard personal liberties. Far-left ideologies, while differing in their approaches, tend to envision a more involved state apparatus to enact the economic and social changes they seek. In some interpretations, especially within authoritarian strains of c*******m, this can lead to significant restrictions on individual freedoms in the name of achieving social e******y.

**Conclusion**

The differences between far-left ideologies and classical liberal philosophy highlight a fundamental tension between individual liberty and social e******y. While classical liberalism emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual within a capitalist framework, far-left ideologies prioritize economic e******y and social justice, often advocating for more substantial state intervention to achieve these goals. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for navigating the complex landscape of contemporary political ideologies and fostering meaningful dialogue across the ideological spectrum.

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Apr 5, 2024 17:40:30   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Bruce123 wrote:
The exploration of political ideologies

**Historical Context and Philosophical Foundations**

Classical liberalism, emerging from Enlightenment thinking in the 17th and 18th centuries, champions individual liberty, limited government, and a free market economy. Influential thinkers such as John Locke and Adam Smith argued for the inherent rights of individuals to life, liberty, and property, advocating for a governmental framework that protects these rights while allowing economic systems to operate with minimal interference. The emphasis is on personal freedom, the rule of law, and e******y before the law, with a belief in the rationality of the individual as the basis for these liberties.

Far-left ideologies, which include socialism, c*******m, and anarchism, emerged from the 19th and early 20th centuries as responses to the inequalities perceived in capitalist societies. Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and later theorists criticized the exploitation inherent in capitalism, advocating for a classless society where resources and power are equitably distributed. Unlike classical liberalism's focus on individual rights and freedoms, far-left ideologies prioritize collective ownership, egalitarianism, and the dissolution of class distinctions, often envisioning a significant role for the state in achieving these aims.

**Economic Systems and Views on Property**

One of the most pronounced differences between classical liberalism and far-left ideologies is their approach to economic systems and property rights. Classical liberals advocate for a capitalist economy where private ownership and free markets are seen as the most efficient means to distribute resources and foster innovation. They argue that individuals should have the freedom to engage in t***sactions and accumulate property without excessive state interference.

In contrast, far-left ideologies critique the capitalist system for its propensity to create ine******y and concentrate wealth. Proposing various alternatives, from state-controlled economies to communal ownership, these ideologies seek to redistribute wealth and resources more equitably among the population. The belief here is that the needs of the community should supersede individual desires for profit, leading to proposals for collective or state ownership of the means of production.

**Governance and Individual Rights**

Another area of divergence lies in the conception of governance and individual rights. Classical liberalism places a premium on protecting individual freedoms against state encroachment, advocating for a limited government whose primary function is to safeguard personal liberties. Far-left ideologies, while differing in their approaches, tend to envision a more involved state apparatus to enact the economic and social changes they seek. In some interpretations, especially within authoritarian strains of c*******m, this can lead to significant restrictions on individual freedoms in the name of achieving social e******y.

**Conclusion**

The differences between far-left ideologies and classical liberal philosophy highlight a fundamental tension between individual liberty and social e******y. While classical liberalism emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual within a capitalist framework, far-left ideologies prioritize economic e******y and social justice, often advocating for more substantial state intervention to achieve these goals. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for navigating the complex landscape of contemporary political ideologies and fostering meaningful dialogue across the ideological spectrum.
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You are on a very excellent roll today!

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Apr 5, 2024 17:41:21   #
Bruce123
 
AuntiE wrote:
You are on a very excellent roll today!


At home sick with a cold … thanks for your kind words.

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Apr 5, 2024 18:09:37   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Bruce123 wrote:
The exploration of political ideologies

**Historical Context and Philosophical Foundations**

Classical liberalism, emerging from Enlightenment thinking in the 17th and 18th centuries, champions individual liberty, limited government, and a free market economy. Influential thinkers such as John Locke and Adam Smith argued for the inherent rights of individuals to life, liberty, and property, advocating for a governmental framework that protects these rights while allowing economic systems to operate with minimal interference. The emphasis is on personal freedom, the rule of law, and e******y before the law, with a belief in the rationality of the individual as the basis for these liberties.

Far-left ideologies, which include socialism, c*******m, and anarchism, emerged from the 19th and early 20th centuries as responses to the inequalities perceived in capitalist societies. Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and later theorists criticized the exploitation inherent in capitalism, advocating for a classless society where resources and power are equitably distributed. Unlike classical liberalism's focus on individual rights and freedoms, far-left ideologies prioritize collective ownership, egalitarianism, and the dissolution of class distinctions, often envisioning a significant role for the state in achieving these aims.

**Economic Systems and Views on Property**

One of the most pronounced differences between classical liberalism and far-left ideologies is their approach to economic systems and property rights. Classical liberals advocate for a capitalist economy where private ownership and free markets are seen as the most efficient means to distribute resources and foster innovation. They argue that individuals should have the freedom to engage in t***sactions and accumulate property without excessive state interference.

In contrast, far-left ideologies critique the capitalist system for its propensity to create ine******y and concentrate wealth. Proposing various alternatives, from state-controlled economies to communal ownership, these ideologies seek to redistribute wealth and resources more equitably among the population. The belief here is that the needs of the community should supersede individual desires for profit, leading to proposals for collective or state ownership of the means of production.

**Governance and Individual Rights**

Another area of divergence lies in the conception of governance and individual rights. Classical liberalism places a premium on protecting individual freedoms against state encroachment, advocating for a limited government whose primary function is to safeguard personal liberties. Far-left ideologies, while differing in their approaches, tend to envision a more involved state apparatus to enact the economic and social changes they seek. In some interpretations, especially within authoritarian strains of c*******m, this can lead to significant restrictions on individual freedoms in the name of achieving social e******y.

**Conclusion**

The differences between far-left ideologies and classical liberal philosophy highlight a fundamental tension between individual liberty and social e******y. While classical liberalism emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual within a capitalist framework, far-left ideologies prioritize economic e******y and social justice, often advocating for more substantial state intervention to achieve these goals. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for navigating the complex landscape of contemporary political ideologies and fostering meaningful dialogue across the ideological spectrum.
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A tension indeed as the left seeks to dominate the
classical right in every domain of life. It is in fact a war for survival of the federated republic we still have, and the fate of most of its citizens freedoms, its constitution, its customs, traditions and institutions and the soul of the nation. It touts an ideology that has proven many times to be unworkable for critical fundamental reasons: man is not built to accept it and must be forced to live within a state that shows less and less appreciation for what the citizen needs, as opposed to what the elite masters desire. For citizens that embrace both social and fiscal conservatism it is all-out war, just the shooting has not yet begun. We see the left's idea of the nation to have a managerial class, a social elite, a state-run military, and the rest of us peons grubbing for crumbs in a bleak, gray existence. Another Soviet Union with its clock ticking down to dissolution very rapidly now. All the good to be thrown out the window for some crackpot's ideal of how to run a nation and achieve the etherical "social justice." This t***sition will try to last for several generations, until a modicum of common-sense creeps into their heads, but too late to avoid a totalitarian takeover. This they want to subject our children to as if it is the best of all worlds?

From a personal perspective, why have we, the majority, allowed their penetration to get so far out of hand that I have to write about it in such negative terms? We must prepare for this conflict with all the intelligence, experience, street smarts and command of right reason to cast them out! Out! Out! You see the i***tic representatives of their culture daily here on OPP with a long list of truly irrational commentators. They do not represent my idea of people I want my children and their children to associate with, nor to give any one of their l*****t central ideas one second of time.
,It has occurred to me that the right does not have the kind of guidelines that the left has. Think of Saul Alinski and his program, and then recall that Saul based his ideas on those of Antonio Gramski, the Italian c*******t. Then they have Cloward-Pivin the man and wife duo that shows us how to jam the government up with trivia.

Perhaps we need a rightist manual of how to bolixivate the left. I, for one, have had it with their, in Tom Sowell's phrase, verbal verbosity!
Any takers on what bolixivate means?

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Apr 5, 2024 18:13:29   #
Bruce123
 
manning5me wrote:
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A tension indeed as the left seeks to dominate the
classical right in every domain of life. It is in fact a war for survival of the federated republic we still have, and the fate of most of its citizens freedoms, its constitution, its customs, traditions and institutions and the soul of the nation. It touts an ideology that has proven many times to be unworkable for critical fundamental reasons: man is not built to accept it and must be forced to live within a state that shows less and less appreciation for what the citizen needs, as opposed to what the elite masters desire. For citizens that embrace both social and fiscal conservatism it is all-out war, just the shooting has not yet begun. We see the left's idea of the nation to have a managerial class, a social elite, a state-run military, and the rest of us peons grubbing for crumbs in a bleak, gray existence. Another Soviet Union with its clock ticking down to dissolution very rapidly now. All the good to be thrown out the window for some crackpot's ideal of how to run a nation and achieve the etherical "social justice." This t***sition will try to last for several generations, until a modicum of common-sense creeps into their heads, but too late to avoid a totalitarian takeover. This they want subject our children to as if it is the best of all worlds?
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A really sad summary and I am afraid you are correct. A well thought out response. Thank you.

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Apr 5, 2024 18:34:00   #
Ted_68
 
Bruce123 wrote:
The exploration of political ideologies

**Historical Context and Philosophical Foundations**

Classical liberalism, emerging from Enlightenment thinking in the 17th and 18th centuries, champions individual liberty, limited government, and a free market economy. Influential thinkers such as John Locke and Adam Smith argued for the inherent rights of individuals to life, liberty, and property, advocating for a governmental framework that protects these rights while allowing economic systems to operate with minimal interference. The emphasis is on personal freedom, the rule of law, and e******y before the law, with a belief in the rationality of the individual as the basis for these liberties.

Far-left ideologies, which include socialism, c*******m, and anarchism, emerged from the 19th and early 20th centuries as responses to the inequalities perceived in capitalist societies. Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and later theorists criticized the exploitation inherent in capitalism, advocating for a classless society where resources and power are equitably distributed. Unlike classical liberalism's focus on individual rights and freedoms, far-left ideologies prioritize collective ownership, egalitarianism, and the dissolution of class distinctions, often envisioning a significant role for the state in achieving these aims.

**Economic Systems and Views on Property**

One of the most pronounced differences between classical liberalism and far-left ideologies is their approach to economic systems and property rights. Classical liberals advocate for a capitalist economy where private ownership and free markets are seen as the most efficient means to distribute resources and foster innovation. They argue that individuals should have the freedom to engage in t***sactions and accumulate property without excessive state interference.

In contrast, far-left ideologies critique the capitalist system for its propensity to create ine******y and concentrate wealth. Proposing various alternatives, from state-controlled economies to communal ownership, these ideologies seek to redistribute wealth and resources more equitably among the population. The belief here is that the needs of the community should supersede individual desires for profit, leading to proposals for collective or state ownership of the means of production.

**Governance and Individual Rights**

Another area of divergence lies in the conception of governance and individual rights. Classical liberalism places a premium on protecting individual freedoms against state encroachment, advocating for a limited government whose primary function is to safeguard personal liberties. Far-left ideologies, while differing in their approaches, tend to envision a more involved state apparatus to enact the economic and social changes they seek. In some interpretations, especially within authoritarian strains of c*******m, this can lead to significant restrictions on individual freedoms in the name of achieving social e******y.

**Conclusion**

The differences between far-left ideologies and classical liberal philosophy highlight a fundamental tension between individual liberty and social e******y. While classical liberalism emphasizes the rights and freedoms of the individual within a capitalist framework, far-left ideologies prioritize economic e******y and social justice, often advocating for more substantial state intervention to achieve these goals. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for navigating the complex landscape of contemporary political ideologies and fostering meaningful dialogue across the ideological spectrum.
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Very well done Sir, and thanks for posting

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Apr 5, 2024 18:46:50   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Bruce123 wrote:
At home sick with a cold … thanks for your kind words.


As I am a busybody, let me give you unasked for advice. Double your intake of Vitamin C and see if you can find some since supplements. Those two things really do help. Hoping you improve soon!

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Apr 5, 2024 18:48:55   #
Bruce123
 
AuntiE wrote:
As I am a busybody, let me give you unasked for advice. Double your intake of Vitamin C and see if you can find some since supplements. Those two things really do help. Hoping you improve soon!


Will do.

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